World was not made for you alone 'Victor'

12:01pm Tuesday 9th October 2012 in Letters

DEAR self-proclaimed Victor Meldrew, I would like to apologise on behalf of the parents of the children of Wirral.

We are so very sorry that our children on their scooters have crossed your path, that our double buggies have got in your way, and that mobility scooters have barred your progress, that the trees are offensive to you.

Next time I am out with my children I will ask them to scoot on the road (at three years of age I wonder if that is legal?), I will write to the council and ask them to build additional footpaths to accommodate my buggy, and if I see a mobility scooter I will shove it onto the road, just to ensure that your world is not disturbed. I can also take a hedge-trimmer out with me to cutback the trees if you like.

Or I could drive the children to school, but that would probably be offensive to you as it would increase the amount of traffic on the already congested roads, and may make you late for any appointments you have with the Victor Meldrew Appreciation Society.

Here's a better idea - you could just move to Mars were you won’t be disturbed.

Honestly! The world was not just made for you, and you alone.

Wirral mother by email.

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Spiffy says...
10:48am Wed 10 Oct 12

What a nasty letter. If parents taught their children to be considerate of others...no matter how other people behaved....then the likes of this "Victor Meldrew" person would have nothing to complain about.
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Two wrongs don't make a right.

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robocoupe says...
11:41am Wed 10 Oct 12

Well said Spiffy !

Looks like `Victor` has upset a member of the mumsie brigade who thinks the world revolves around her and her pack.

Would you like some help getting down from your highchair Wirral mother ?

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motherhood says...
1:47pm Wed 10 Oct 12

I am responding to a letter that was printed in last weeks globe, the person concerned said that they were a self proclaimed victor meldrew. They were complaining about the bugggy's, mobility scooters and trees being in their way when they were using the pavement. So yes it does upset me as It is hard enough being a mother in today's society without being told that your buggy is an annoyance. I always have taught my children to be considerate of others on the pavement and I do not allow them to plough other people down. I always make sure if someone is coming they give way to the pedestrian, even at three years of age they know how to do this. I after all am a pedestrian myself! I do not think that the world revolves around my pack. I teach my children manners and to be considerate of other people, pity spiffy and robocoupe you don't have the same manners!

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motherhood says...
1:59pm Wed 10 Oct 12

P S
I think that if someone verbally attacks children in buggy's and people on mobility scooters for using the pavement, then someone has to stand up and say something!

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Spiffy says...
4:01pm Wed 10 Oct 12

motherhood wrote:
I am responding to a letter that was printed in last weeks globe, the person concerned said that they were a self proclaimed victor meldrew. They were complaining about the bugggy's, mobility scooters and trees being in their way when they were using the pavement. So yes it does upset me as It is hard enough being a mother in today's society without being told that your buggy is an annoyance. I always have taught my children to be considerate of others on the pavement and I do not allow them to plough other people down. I always make sure if someone is coming they give way to the pedestrian, even at three years of age they know how to do this. I after all am a pedestrian myself! I do not think that the world revolves around my pack. I teach my children manners and to be considerate of other people, pity spiffy and robocoupe you don't have the same manners!
I see, so you are moaning about someone else moaning... about other people... and not you personally...and felt compelled to launch a personal attack in public on a complete stranger.
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Why on earth should you get so upset ...and not only that... but so much so that you write a snotty letter to the local newspaper in some strange form of "retaliation" ?
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My point is that if ALL children were better behaved then NO ONE would have ANYTHING bad to say about them. Take back the ammunition, as it were.
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It is indeed hard enough being a mother these days without someone kicking off about something that has nothing whatsoever to do with them. How sensitive are you, anyway ? You couldn't just shrug your shoulders and think "ah well, my kids behave, it can't possibly be me they're moaning about and that's all that matters to me". ?
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Oh and MY manners are immaculate...as are my children's...thank you. You invited a response and were afforded the courtesy of a response. I maintain that two wrongs do not make a right.
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Feel free to disagree...

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motherhood says...
5:05pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Surely if someone has the right to air their views so do I. Freedom of speech and all that!

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Spiffy says...
5:23pm Wed 10 Oct 12

motherhood wrote:
Surely if someone has the right to air their views so do I. Freedom of speech and all that!
A different issue altogether but yes, of course you do .
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Just don't go proving the Victor Meldrew's of this world right. S'all I'm sayin...

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motherhood says...
5:41pm Wed 10 Oct 12

I wonder if you read the letter that I am refferring to? It was entitled "Has anyone been fined for cycling on the path"? and was in the Globe last week.
Here is an exert from it:
"the poor pedestrian now has to share the sidewalk with cyclists, scooters, dog walkers, double pushchairs, mobility scooters, wheelie bins, litter, dog poo and overhanging trees and bushes, promotional signs and wares outside shops, plus the regular use of the pavement as an extension to the roadway by both car and Van drivers for parking".

Why should I shrug my shoulders? I could certainly do that, but why should I? Why are you so sensitive that you felt that you had to reply via email through a local newspaper site to my comments?
Snotty letter eh? retaliation? NO just wanted to say that everyone has a right to use the pavement and just because you have a disability or you are looking after young children does not mean you are any less entitled to use the pavement. I also felt affronted that double buggy's and mobility scooters were moaned about in the same sentence as dog poo and wheelie bins.
I do not make a habit of writing to the local newspaper about such issues but I felt strongly about this, and I do not have to explain my actions to you. I maintain that the right to air my opinions just as you do.

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Spiffy says...
8:39pm Wed 10 Oct 12

I happen to think he had a point...as do you...and " just wanted to say that everyone has a right to use the pavement and just because you have a disability or you are looking after young children does not mean you are any less entitled to use the pavement"... is fair enough.

But that's not what you actually said and what you did say came across as just as small-minded and nasty as the letter writer you're complaining about with one small difference. He spoke generally and you got personal.
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You said "Why should I shrug my shoulders? I could certainly do that, but why should I? "... how about since you obviously expect better behaviour and attitudes from total strangers the very least you could do is act better yourself.
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Otherwise, why should they ? If I'm sensitive to *anything* it's blatant hypocrisy.

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robocoupe says...
8:43pm Wed 10 Oct 12

motherhood wrote:
I am responding to a letter that was printed in last weeks globe, the person concerned said that they were a self proclaimed victor meldrew. They were complaining about the bugggy's, mobility scooters and trees being in their way when they were using the pavement. So yes it does upset me as It is hard enough being a mother in today's society without being told that your buggy is an annoyance. I always have taught my children to be considerate of others on the pavement and I do not allow them to plough other people down. I always make sure if someone is coming they give way to the pedestrian, even at three years of age they know how to do this. I after all am a pedestrian myself! I do not think that the world revolves around my pack. I teach my children manners and to be considerate of other people, pity spiffy and robocoupe you don't have the same manners!
Motherhood.... responding and agreeing with a quote on here doe`s not make me ill mannered, moreover, as you say, entitled to air my opinion.

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motherhood says...
10:08pm Wed 10 Oct 12

I give up! YOu did respond to a quote on here and that's fine, what I did not appreciate is asking me if I would like to get down from my high chair and also saying that I felt the world revolved around me and my pack, (you don't even know me!), I felt that was a little funny but also ill mannered!

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motherhood says...
10:38pm Wed 10 Oct 12

I have reported these comments to the moderator as I feel they are abusive I will leave it to the moderator to decide.
I do not appreciate been called a hypocrite, that my letter was nasty, that i am part of the mumsie brigade that I should get down off my high chair,That I wrote a snotty letter to the newspaper in retaliation, That I am sensitive, That I should just ignore what other people say and shrug it off, That if I expect people to behave I should behave myself and that I am a hypocrite. All because I defended people with buggys and mobility scooters.

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robocoupe says...
11:50pm Wed 10 Oct 12

What is there to report?

There has not been one abusive post towards you in this thread, and you also suggested that the world do`es not revolve around the letter writer, quote, ("Honestly! The world was not just made for you, and you alone." ) should `Mr. Meldrew` report you?

Just take this one on the chin that you did not get the response you expected from your post.

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motherhood says...
11:09am Thu 11 Oct 12

When people call you names and tell you how you should think in my humble opinion that is classed as abusive, how would you like it if I called you a hypocrite? or said you were sensitive and should not have written a snotty letter? That if I expect other people to behave I should behave myself? Robocoupe, I felt your comments were funny and I did not particulary take offensive from them. But I have taken offensive from spiffys comments!

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Spiffy says...
12:22pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Having written a malicious and abusive letter to the local newspaper... castigating an individual for their opinion on what are common and general problem experienced by all of us at one time or another... you are now claiming victim status.
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Taking offence that your offensive letter was deemed by others to be offensive. Oh, the irony.
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I stand by everything I've said.

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motherhood says...
12:53pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Spiffy you could have said that you found my letter offensive, that's fine you are entitled to your own opinion. You did not however have to say that I was a hypocrite or that I am claiming victim status (I am not BTW). Or that I am sensitive or that I should just ignore comments and shrug my shoulders, or that I should learn how to behave. You are calling me names and trying to tell me how I should or should not think, that in my opinion is abusive. It takes away the whole focus from what (in my opinion is important here) that everyone has the right to be on the pavement even if you do own a buggy or have to travel by mobility scooter.
I stand by everything I have said.

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Mr Bollo says...
1:31pm Thu 11 Oct 12

motherhood, there are a few rather delusional individuals who frequent this website on a seemingly daily basis, who appear to have what I can only describe as very muddled opinions on practically every subject under the sun. They are big on polemics and short on reason, yet when you attempt to point out any flaws in their logic you are generally met with hysteria, paranoia and ultimately abuse.

Still, good luck and all that...

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Realistically speaking says...
2:40pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Well said Mr Bollo - but those few have the answer to the meaning of the universe and everything - dont they?? Motherhood, some people just like to moan at everything - don't get stressed, you have enough on your plate. Keep smiling and pity poor Victor and his sad life.

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motherhood says...
2:54pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Mr Bollo and realistically, well said and thank you. Breathe...........

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Spiffy says...
5:34pm Thu 11 Oct 12

motherhood wrote:
Spiffy you could have said that you found my letter offensive, that's fine you are entitled to your own opinion. You did not however have to say that I was a hypocrite or that I am claiming victim status (I am not BTW). Or that I am sensitive or that I should just ignore comments and shrug my shoulders, or that I should learn how to behave. You are calling me names and trying to tell me how I should or should not think, that in my opinion is abusive. It takes away the whole focus from what (in my opinion is important here) that everyone has the right to be on the pavement even if you do own a buggy or have to travel by mobility scooter.
I stand by everything I have said.
Don't dish it if you can't take it. End of.

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motherhood says...
6:25pm Thu 11 Oct 12

Pardon me for having an opinion!

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Spiffy says...
7:46pm Thu 11 Oct 12

motherhood wrote:
Pardon me for having an opinion!
Granted. :) Now that made me laugh and to be perfectly honest here I don't blame you for the way you feel. I just would have handled it completely differently.
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When all's said and done we've disagreed on how to handle it when someone else moans. That's no big deal, really. We're both grown-ups and we'll get over it.
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Well, I will, anyway. Some people are completely incapable of it and never do but that's their problem not mine.
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I certainly didn't mean for this disagreement to cause you any undue upset so best we just agree to just disagree.
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Enjoy the evening with your children. :)

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motherhood says...
9:19pm Thu 11 Oct 12

agreed!

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spoonsize says...
10:26am Fri 12 Oct 12

Have I wandered onto Mumsnet by mistake?

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uncatom says...
1:22pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Victors comments were a generalisation, I am sure at some time or another we all become peeved with one issue or another,my favourite is mums who gather in shop entrances with prams blocking the door way either to talk to each other or to talk on mobile phones while every one is expected to wait for this event to end, should you have the audacity to request that could they move to one side you are then treated to a string of verbal abuse and the proverbial get a life, yes its hard being a mum.

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motherhood says...
7:09pm Fri 12 Oct 12

Are you a mum Uncatom? I think we should all stop having a go at each other and learn to be a little more tolerant.

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uncatom says...
9:42am Sat 13 Oct 12

motherhood ,

It was'nt my intention to "have a go" just pointing out that various things can be annoying, there is a difference between being tolerant and being abused for asking in a polite manner as in excuse me, tolerance works both ways.

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Spiffy says...
1:23pm Sat 13 Oct 12

"tolerance works both ways"
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Well said, Uncatom.

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motherhood says...
9:08pm Sat 13 Oct 12

Uncatom, I agree with you that when you ask someone in a polite manner "excuse me" it is completely unacceptable to then be given a mouthful of abuse. However there is such a thing as an ism. Is there are hint of a mother ism going on here I wonder? If someone said I hate it when black people stand in a doorway talking and then hurl abuse when I ask them to move out of the way, that comment could be considered as a racist remark by some people. You are making a generalisation that says it is common for mothers with prams to stand in doorways and hurl abuse when I politely say excuse me.

Please remember this you were once a baby and travelled in a pram, which your mother pushed you in. Would you like it if someone made a comment like this referring to your mother? People of all walks of life stand in doorways, some are mothers with prams, others are not. Some people are polite when you ask them politely to move, others are not. Most of us have experienced rudeness from someone who we have asked to move out of the way at one time or another.
point made i think

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uncatom says...
9:37pm Sat 13 Oct 12

motherhood,

Its not a generalisation,as I said it is something that annoys me the same as drivers that dont indicate their intentions when turning,I am sure you have things that annoy you,your letter was tinged with sarcasm yet you take offence when its pointed out that not all mums are perfect,take a look around the Cherry tree precinct mums pushing prams whilst smoking with a mobile phone held to their ear with a shoulder and toddler in hand.

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motherhood says...
10:05pm Sat 13 Oct 12

Not all mums are perfect I agree, neither are all dads, drivers, football players, priests.... the list could go on. As human beings we are inperfect . Can I ask why if you are a mother who pushes a pram and holds a toddlers hand, with a mobile phone to her ear, who happens to be smoking (aside from the obvious risks of smoking) that makes you any less of a human being? what exactly are these mothers doing wrong? I would call it multi tasking!

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motherhood says...
10:10pm Sat 13 Oct 12

Can I ask why if you are a mother with a phone, pram and toddler, who happens to be smoking, are you any less of a human being than anyone else? what is this mother doing wrong? I would call it multi tasking!
We as human beings are not perfect, in fact the idea of being perfect scares me to death! I maintain we all need to stop having a go and be more tolerant of one another.

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motherhood says...
10:46pm Sat 13 Oct 12

This thread is becoming very boring!!!! YAWN!

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uncatom says...
8:55am Sun 14 Oct 12

motherhood,

You are missing the point,you pointed out that you dont allow your children to misbehave or force people aside with your pram,unfortunately others do as with the multitasking mums who are on auto pilot with their minds set on who should win X factor or big brother.

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robocoupe says...
10:12am Sun 14 Oct 12

motherhood wrote:
This thread is becoming very boring!!!! YAWN!
It became very boring when you began multi posting!

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pykey08 says...
11:20am Sun 14 Oct 12

these modern mums want to get a life and respect older folk

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motherhood says...
2:54pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Maybe they are on the phone about something else? big brother I don't watch but I really want Jhamine to win x factor, OMG am I a bad mother?

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motherhood says...
3:01pm Sun 14 Oct 12

PS I do respect older folks. Those who gave their lives in the war, those who have made this country great. I cannot with words express how grateful I am to the men and women who made this country what it is today. Amazing people, brave and strong. Some of whom I have been lucky to have known. So many stories and so much to tell younger people....and I Am sure most of these older folks are wise enough to know respect works both ways.

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motherhood says...
3:06pm Sun 14 Oct 12

pykey08 wrote:
these modern mums want to get a life and respect older folk
PS I do respect older folks. Those who gave their lives in the war, those who have made this country great. I cannot with words express how grateful I am to the men and women who made this country what it is today. Amazing people, brave and strong. Some of whom I have been lucky to have known. So many stories and so much to tell younger people....and I Am sure most of these older folks are wise enough to know respect works both ways. Pyke do you have a mobility scooter?

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Dantealighieri says...
3:54pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Motherhood- Posting Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and now Sunday. Whose looking after the kids?

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uncatom says...
4:06pm Sun 14 Oct 12

motherhood,

lighten up you have just repeated the same thing I mentioned earlier respect works both ways, Victor had his moan some of which I believe was tongue in cheek,we all have or have had mothers,my wife is a mother,my daughter is a mother, my daughter in law is a mother, but to reiterate there are some that abuse that very high status and think that the world revolves around them, respect has to be earned,in all fairness to you, you have done your best to stick up for all mums but some dont deserve that support.

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motherhood says...
9:55pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Dantealighieri wrote:
Motherhood- Posting Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and now Sunday. Whose looking after the kids?
Danteallighieri
How dare you! it is completely possible to care for children and post on the computer at the same time, it is called multi tasking too! Twelve of my posts were posted when my children were in school, at nursery or in bed asleep.
Five when they were playing in our garden or home. Now go back into that pit that you just crawled out of!

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motherhood says...
9:57pm Sun 14 Oct 12

uncatom wrote:
motherhood,

lighten up you have just repeated the same thing I mentioned earlier respect works both ways, Victor had his moan some of which I believe was tongue in cheek,we all have or have had mothers,my wife is a mother,my daughter is a mother, my daughter in law is a mother, but to reiterate there are some that abuse that very high status and think that the world revolves around them, respect has to be earned,in all fairness to you, you have done your best to stick up for all mums but some dont deserve that support.
Ask your wife to read this and ask her what she thinks about the way I am being spoken to on here, it is DISGUSTING!

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motherhood says...
10:24pm Sun 14 Oct 12

There are mothers who do not deserve support. But They are not the mothers that walk around the Cherry tree centre, with a phone, a pram, a toddler and a smoke! I should know, I have worked with mothers for many, many years. The ones that do not deserve support are the ones who show no remorse when they abuse their children, or neglect completely the needs of their children. The ones who put their own needs before those of their children on a daily basis. My father had to use a mobility scooter before he died, he didn't want to, he would have much rather of used his legs! to have a comment made about prams and scooters on the pavement is deeply offensive to me. Yes I am sensitive about this issue, most mothers who use a pram and people who use mobility scooters are respectful of other peoples space, how dare someone out that in the same sentence as dog poo and wheelie bins!

PLEASE THINK about what you are saying before it comes out of your mouths!

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Jimrob says...
11:12pm Sun 14 Oct 12

Motherhood says...
" I cannot with words express how grateful I am to the men and women who made this country what it is today. Amazing people, brave and strong. Some of whom I have been lucky to have known."

You mean you like those awful bankers and financiers who have "made this country what it is today"?

Shame on you motherhood.!!!

(Tongue in cheek BTW)

Now do you see what I've noticed about your posts?

Uncatom, spiffy et al. You are wasting your time here. I think this person is either taking the mickey or just out for an argument.

I also believe the answer to all her problems with "Victor" would be for her to buy a car. Perhaps she could buy one for Victor too and save us all from such drivel in the future.

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motherhood says...
9:32am Mon 15 Oct 12

I have a car thanks. No I am the one wasting my time talking to idiots like you!

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