Wirral council leader responds to criticism (From Wirral Globe)

"open, transparent and inclusive." A-hahahahahahaha ! Stop it Phil, you're killing us here already ! Hahahahaha good one !

I don't trust a word anyone in power in Wirral Council say. There is so much spin, smoke and mirrors going on that no-one know what to believe! When you do Speak your mind, it usually ends up costing you your career! No matter what anyone tells you, the real truth at Wirral is that it is a horrible place to work. Unfortunately, the junior staff can't afford to walk away like the senior ones!

Another 'wonderful' idea from the Spinderella factory.
It is the Sellafield syndrome,change the name a few times and no-one will know the difference.
Ms Ugg you can fool some of the people etc.

Oh, that's a good joke Phil !!

A bit of honesty & transparency here please, you and our local councillors don't want to know what the people of Woodchurch think, until you know what the deal is going to be with Tranmere Rovers. That has not gone away has it ?

This has been the case for years now, and the 7 month delay in the asset transfer of Woodchurch Community Centre to community control for no reason proves it.

Despite agreement of the business proposal at Cabinet last year nothing has progressed. Yet other community centres have progressed their transfers with no problems (Heswall/Overchurch/
Hoylake etc.).

Note today's reports about the dodgy goings on with the Marine Lake repair work (elsewhere).

Complicit, compliant, commonplace, complacent?

You decide.

"The focus of this role is to improve the way the council does business, to deliver high-quality services within budget and ensure that an effective performance management framework is in place. "
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Wait..what ? Only ONE person is responsible for this ? Everyone should be....so might as well sack anyone that isn't and save a few bob.

Going back a few years you would think Mr Davies & his administration would have learned a lesson when they tried to close our community centre & leisure centre. A massive public outcry stopped that plan.

When that failed they tried to close our library instead. There had to be a huge public enquiry to keep that much needed facility open.

Aren't these people supposed to be working for us ? Not against us, which seems to be the case these days.

Please listen to the communities, we know what is needed for our areas, that's what we voted for when we put you in positions of power within the Council. Don't just give us lip service & hope we'll go away if we are ignored.

Well done to the employee of Wirral Globe who typed out and prepared this story. Takes admirable dedication to journalistic values to publish such a yawn-inducing series of meaningless cliches without dropping face-first onto your desk, comatose with sheer boredom.

bickyboy wrote:
Well done to the employee of Wirral Globe who typed out and prepared this story. Takes admirable dedication to journalistic values to publish such a yawn-inducing series of meaningless cliches without dropping face-first onto your desk, comatose with sheer boredom.

Hahahahahahahahahaha
...brilliant.

Spiffy wrote:

bickyboy wrote: Well done to the employee of Wirral Globe who typed out and prepared this story. Takes admirable dedication to journalistic values to publish such a yawn-inducing series of meaningless cliches without dropping face-first onto your desk, comatose with sheer boredom.

Hahahahahahahahahaha ...brilliant.

Seconded - very funny !!

I think numerous people would like to take issue with Council Leader Phil Davies, Just when are you going to do the right thing and start sacking those who we all know deserve it.
And make sure they do not walk away with pockets bulging with our money.

And the first thing you should say to Bill Norman is get to work on our behalf to recover some of the ill gotten payments that have already been made.

council officer wrote:
I don't trust a word anyone in power in Wirral Council say. There is so much spin, smoke and mirrors going on that no-one know what to believe! When you do Speak your mind, it usually ends up costing you your career! No matter what anyone tells you, the real truth at Wirral is that it is a horrible place to work. Unfortunately, the junior staff can't afford to walk away like the senior ones!

I fully agree with the council officer, bigfoot and other posts;
Open, transparent,inclusiv
e don't make me laugh. There is so much smoke & spin its difficult to see through it & you are complacent.
Many thought when you were voted into office by the electorate of WIRRAL things would change YOU PROMISED!
We still have the almost daily bad press & the spin. We have never seen sight of the full AKA report. You voted for Wilkie to go EVR (if he was sick he should have just gone on sick leave), he was not up to the job by his own admission!! so you should have sacked him, not fit for purpose, or he should have resigned, of course he was never going to do that when he could fill his pockets. We now have the Dave Green situation, the Marine Lake sham, Cheshire Lines, Martin Morton, officers from social services let go with huge payments, the press officer who called Martin Morton quote 'a bit mad' do none of these things set alarm bells ringing!Its like big ben in most peoples ears. What was ever done (if anything) about the staff in your office who Jeff Green divulged personal details about? where is your duty of care to them and all the staff? The next scandal is going to be what happened to monies from 'section 106?' and what a can of worms that's going to be. I hope Mr.Frater is getting ready for that.
Who thought it right to release TRFC contract details? Who thought it right to release details of the meeting to let Wilkie go? Do you think details of the forthcoming Golf tournaments visits to China, dog poo issues etc, are the best press you should be putting out? The list is endless.The latest is a petition on line for the government to take the powers away from Wirral Council and what shame that will bring.Perhaps that's the only solution if you are going to continue to be complacent, but its sad for everyone of 'us'staff,residents, etc.
FGS PLEASE wake up and smell the coffee, grow a pair and DO the job you were elected for. If you do not then you shoulder the blame when at the next elections you find yourself out of office. It could be sooner than that if the Council are placed in special measures, and sooner still if you do not act. Look & listen to what staff are saying. Read what is written? Research what has been said. ACT on it.

Message to Phil Davies, you have been entrusted with an important role, you are capable of doing a better job than Steve Foulkes, so please demonstrate this.

Message to Mr Frater, you have been employed at our expense to bring about some very much needed, critical changes within Wirral Council, please can we have some inkling that this actually in progress.

Message to all the 66 elected Councillors, for the sake of true democracy will you all work together despite politics to ensure that the population of Wirral are best served by the employed council staff, at all levels.

Important message to all of you mentioned in this posting could for instance at least reply to the above requests, if only to restore some faith in this whole process and human nature itself.

hugo2008 wrote:
I think numerous people would like to take issue with Council Leader Phil Davies, Just when are you going to do the right thing and start sacking those who we all know deserve it.
And make sure they do not walk away with pockets bulging with our money.

And the first thing you should say to Bill Norman is get to work on our behalf to recover some of the ill gotten payments that have already been made.

No chance, when he knows where all the bodies are buried, cos he helped bury em!

Over 24 hours have passed and not one word from any person in Authority, not even from "Spinderella" or Spineless Council elected or employed.
Truly Amazing.

hugo2008 wrote:
Over 24 hours have passed and not one word from any person in Authority, not even from "Spinderella" or Spineless Council elected or employed. Truly Amazing.

Oh dear, what did you expect hugo2008 ?

They truly DO NOT CARE what any of us think. I think that before long someone will be saying " let's put all this behind us, let's move on and start looking forward".

NO, NO, NO i say, we want answers !! Things need to change and our Council MUST be held accountable to us, the electorate who put them into these jobs.

daggers drawn wrote:

council officer wrote: I don't trust a word anyone in power in Wirral Council say. There is so much spin, smoke and mirrors going on that no-one know what to believe! When you do Speak your mind, it usually ends up costing you your career! No matter what anyone tells you, the real truth at Wirral is that it is a horrible place to work. Unfortunately, the junior staff can't afford to walk away like the senior ones!

I fully agree with the council officer, bigfoot and other posts; Open, transparent,inclusiv e don't make me laugh. There is so much smoke & spin its difficult to see through it & you are complacent. Many thought when you were voted into office by the electorate of WIRRAL things would change YOU PROMISED! We still have the almost daily bad press & the spin. We have never seen sight of the full AKA report. You voted for Wilkie to go EVR (if he was sick he should have just gone on sick leave), he was not up to the job by his own admission!! so you should have sacked him, not fit for purpose, or he should have resigned, of course he was never going to do that when he could fill his pockets. We now have the Dave Green situation, the Marine Lake sham, Cheshire Lines, Martin Morton, officers from social services let go with huge payments, the press officer who called Martin Morton quote 'a bit mad' do none of these things set alarm bells ringing!Its like big ben in most peoples ears. What was ever done (if anything) about the staff in your office who Jeff Green divulged personal details about? where is your duty of care to them and all the staff? The next scandal is going to be what happened to monies from 'section 106?' and what a can of worms that's going to be. I hope Mr.Frater is getting ready for that. Who thought it right to release TRFC contract details? Who thought it right to release details of the meeting to let Wilkie go? Do you think details of the forthcoming Golf tournaments visits to China, dog poo issues etc, are the best press you should be putting out? The list is endless.The latest is a petition on line for the government to take the powers away from Wirral Council and what shame that will bring.Perhaps that's the only solution if you are going to continue to be complacent, but its sad for everyone of 'us'staff,residents, etc. FGS PLEASE wake up and smell the coffee, grow a pair and DO the job you were elected for. If you do not then you shoulder the blame when at the next elections you find yourself out of office. It could be sooner than that if the Council are placed in special measures, and sooner still if you do not act. Look & listen to what staff are saying. Read what is written? Research what has been said. ACT on it.

Where is this online petition ?

I think we should get as many people as possible to sign it !!

woodyres2 wrote:

daggers drawn wrote:

council officer wrote: I don't trust a word anyone in power in Wirral Council say. There is so much spin, smoke and mirrors going on that no-one know what to believe! When you do Speak your mind, it usually ends up costing you your career! No matter what anyone tells you, the real truth at Wirral is that it is a horrible place to work. Unfortunately, the junior staff can't afford to walk away like the senior ones!

I fully agree with the council officer, bigfoot and other posts; Open, transparent,inclusiv e don't make me laugh. There is so much smoke & spin its difficult to see through it & you are complacent. Many thought when you were voted into office by the electorate of WIRRAL things would change YOU PROMISED! We still have the almost daily bad press & the spin. We have never seen sight of the full AKA report. You voted for Wilkie to go EVR (if he was sick he should have just gone on sick leave), he was not up to the job by his own admission!! so you should have sacked him, not fit for purpose, or he should have resigned, of course he was never going to do that when he could fill his pockets. We now have the Dave Green situation, the Marine Lake sham, Cheshire Lines, Martin Morton, officers from social services let go with huge payments, the press officer who called Martin Morton quote 'a bit mad' do none of these things set alarm bells ringing!Its like big ben in most peoples ears. What was ever done (if anything) about the staff in your office who Jeff Green divulged personal details about? where is your duty of care to them and all the staff? The next scandal is going to be what happened to monies from 'section 106?' and what a can of worms that's going to be. I hope Mr.Frater is getting ready for that. Who thought it right to release TRFC contract details? Who thought it right to release details of the meeting to let Wilkie go? Do you think details of the forthcoming Golf tournaments visits to China, dog poo issues etc, are the best press you should be putting out? The list is endless.The latest is a petition on line for the government to take the powers away from Wirral Council and what shame that will bring.Perhaps that's the only solution if you are going to continue to be complacent, but its sad for everyone of 'us'staff,residents, etc. FGS PLEASE wake up and smell the coffee, grow a pair and DO the job you were elected for. If you do not then you shoulder the blame when at the next elections you find yourself out of office. It could be sooner than that if the Council are placed in special measures, and sooner still if you do not act. Look & listen to what staff are saying. Read what is written? Research what has been said. ACT on it.

Where is this online petition ? I think we should get as many people as possible to sign it !!

don't worry I found it elsewhere.

www.epetitions.direc
t.gov.uk/petitions/3
4774

Let's get signing !!!

woodyres2 wrote:

daggers drawn wrote:

council officer wrote: I don't trust a word anyone in power in Wirral Council say. There is so much spin, smoke and mirrors going on that no-one know what to believe! When you do Speak your mind, it usually ends up costing you your career! No matter what anyone tells you, the real truth at Wirral is that it is a horrible place to work. Unfortunately, the junior staff can't afford to walk away like the senior ones!

I fully agree with the council officer, bigfoot and other posts; Open, transparent,inclusiv e don't make me laugh. There is so much smoke & spin its difficult to see through it & you are complacent. Many thought when you were voted into office by the electorate of WIRRAL things would change YOU PROMISED! We still have the almost daily bad press & the spin. We have never seen sight of the full AKA report. You voted for Wilkie to go EVR (if he was sick he should have just gone on sick leave), he was not up to the job by his own admission!! so you should have sacked him, not fit for purpose, or he should have resigned, of course he was never going to do that when he could fill his pockets. We now have the Dave Green situation, the Marine Lake sham, Cheshire Lines, Martin Morton, officers from social services let go with huge payments, the press officer who called Martin Morton quote 'a bit mad' do none of these things set alarm bells ringing!Its like big ben in most peoples ears. What was ever done (if anything) about the staff in your office who Jeff Green divulged personal details about? where is your duty of care to them and all the staff? The next scandal is going to be what happened to monies from 'section 106?' and what a can of worms that's going to be. I hope Mr.Frater is getting ready for that. Who thought it right to release TRFC contract details? Who thought it right to release details of the meeting to let Wilkie go? Do you think details of the forthcoming Golf tournaments visits to China, dog poo issues etc, are the best press you should be putting out? The list is endless.The latest is a petition on line for the government to take the powers away from Wirral Council and what shame that will bring.Perhaps that's the only solution if you are going to continue to be complacent, but its sad for everyone of 'us'staff,residents, etc. FGS PLEASE wake up and smell the coffee, grow a pair and DO the job you were elected for. If you do not then you shoulder the blame when at the next elections you find yourself out of office. It could be sooner than that if the Council are placed in special measures, and sooner still if you do not act. Look & listen to what staff are saying. Read what is written? Research what has been said. ACT on it.

Where is this online petition ?

I think we should get as many people as possible to sign it !!

Woodyres2, I set up this petition as something needs to be done.