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Wirral parking wardens should exercise common sense

2:44pm Tuesday 24th January 2012 in Letters

HAVING just received a parking ticket outside my son's school in Woodchurch Road, Prenton, I felt it necessary to email the council straight away with my thoughts.

Here is what I said:

"Do these wardens you employ not display any common sense and understand that conditions sometimes cause the need to park in a restricted area for literally five minutes?

"The parking situation outside the school is awful with hardly any spaces due to residents' cars being outside their houses in the only spaces available.

"Everywhere else is double-yellowed lined, meaning we have to park about half-a-mile away and walk to the school.

"As I write this, only 25 minutes since I received the ticket, it is still belting down with rain outside.

"I had to get a four-year-old to his school without getting him soaking wet and carrying three bags.

"I will be writing to the local papers about this incident as I am not happy about the situation we are in with limited parking around the school and your wardens hiding around the corner, waiting for drivers to drop off their children.

"It is no wonder people view them in the manner that they do.

"I very much look forward to your response."

Ian Hazlehurst, Prenton.

Comments(60)

Jack Boot says...
3:08pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Arrgh poor Mr Hazlehurst, fined for parking in a restricted area, I assume zig zags outside a primary school!
You put other childrens' lives at risk with your selfish attitude.
My opinion of wardens has just gone through the roof.
You deserve every fine you get, bloody moron.

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uncatom says...
3:45pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Parking restrictions are put adjacent to schools for a specific reason, to make the approaches to the school safe for all,the inconsiderate like to park right outside the school with no thoughts for others these thoughtless actions can result in a fatality especially in poor weather conditions, so think on next time your only five minutes of illegal parking might well have dire consequenses for some one elses child

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Spiffy says...
4:52pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Three words: Wellies, raincoats, umbrellas.
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How complicated does it need to be, really ??

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ConcernedRatePayer says...
4:56pm Tue 24 Jan 12

I agree with the two previous Replies. Parking restrictions are there for one reason and one reason only and that is one of Safety and particularly the SAFETY OF CHILDREN ! Just think for a moment how you would feel if a Child had been knocked down as a result of your selfish behaviour !

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statictom says...
5:00pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Have to agree with the other posts. I take my grandson to school on occasions to help out. Like all school areas at that time of day its bedlam. But as Spiffy states; Wellies, raincoat, umbrella. Works for me. In fact I find it easier to park well away and walk to school. It saves time and its safer than trying to squeeze into tight parkingh spots. The area around school entrances are designed to be kept clear for obvious reasons. Its what keeps kids safe. Maybe the fine will focus the writers minds next time he goes on a school run.

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bickyboy says...
6:16pm Tue 24 Jan 12

When I was four my mum took me to school in the car. She hadnt passed a driving test, but she took me anyway; you could do that sort of thing back in the day. Then she found that she couldnt afford to run a car anymore and we had to walk. Ill effects upon we children? None.
Nowadays people seem to think its acceptable to drive a matter of a few hundred yards to pick up a child from school, and if anything gets in the way of that laudable objective they start to cry like babies.
I wouldnt go so far as to commend Jack Boot's unpleasant little contribution, but I would certainly wish to remind Mr Hazlehurst that originally at least, legs were made for walking, not for pumping accelerator, brake and clutch. Giving yourself more time and walking to school= no parking tickets. Simples.

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Jack Boot says...
7:54am Wed 25 Jan 12

Don't you condescend me prickyboy!
Who do you think you are? Piers Morgan

Hazlenut deserves every criticism, what else would have the temerity to complain openly about getting a ticket after parking on zig zags ... a bloody moron

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bickyboy says...
8:12am Wed 25 Jan 12

So the Globe left you one alter ego to play with when you got kicked off here for behaving like a spoilt child, Dumbslug. Shame you cant muster the maturity to use that one alter ego for constructive purposes. As usual, you turn a potentially interesting discussion into a vehicle for your own particular brand of petulant, helium-voiced hysteria. Dope.

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Jack Boot says...
8:20am Wed 25 Jan 12

You really are a 'little unpleasant' to use your words. I am not who you think I am so that makes you a thick arrogant t**t too.

This is a very important subject so stick to it.

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bickyboy says...
8:36am Wed 25 Jan 12

Yeah, you are him, and you dont like being found out. Why describe the letter writer as a "moron", when you could simply have said "I dont agree"? You clearly havent done much growing up since you last besmirched this forum with your infantile witterings.

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Jack Boot says...
9:05am Wed 25 Jan 12

Prickyboil, you really are thick, were your parents cousins?

I wasn't aware that the Globe had its very own troll spreading its poison.

Its a shame really because Mr Hazlenut is the one who needs lambasting, not me.

I'll leave this thread to walk greener pastures

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ianhazz2 says...
9:06am Wed 25 Jan 12

Jackboy, your presumptions are incorrect as I was in fact parked in a Bus stop that was partially double yellow lined. It is your type of ‘moronic’ attitude that has condemned many an innocent man without knowing all the facts, by just basing your opinion on your own assumptions. I hope you are never called up for Jury service! If you knew anything about anything, you would know that you get more than just a ticket for parking on the Zig Zags!
What I have NEVER done is park in a position deemed to be ‘dangerous’ where as could cause an accident, unlike a number of people who prefer to double park, put there Hazard lights on and sit there until their child is safely in the school gates before moving off - allowing the angry build up of traffic behind them get on their not so merry way.
I would love to be able to walk with my children to school but as we live 3 miles away this may cause some problems.
Whilst I admit I was in the wrong for parking where I did and have duly paid the fine, I feel the council should be doing more than sending out Wardens to issue fines, rather than addressing the problem at hand. Parking close to the school (obviously not directly outside but within a reasonable distance) is a major problem, made more so with our school being very close to another one.
There are now ‘drop off’ points being put in places around Birkenhead, could this idea not be implemented around our schools?
‘This is a very important subject so stick to it’ – a quote from the know it all poster – yes let’s do that but let’s stick to the facts and see if there are ways of improving the situation rather than jumping on the bandwagon and throwing your two pennies worth in!

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robocoupe says...
9:15am Wed 25 Jan 12

Quote
"I was in fact parked in a Bus stop that was partially double yellow lined."
This story just gets better!

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ianhazz2 says...
9:20am Wed 25 Jan 12

My apologies, it is not in fact a bus stop it is a lay by outside the school which was partially yellow lined.

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uncatom says...
1:56pm Wed 25 Jan 12

You dont have to walk three miles, just park a little bit further away from the school approaches, I think it was your indignation at being caught and the fact that you were going to complain to the council that prompted peoples reaction, sorry but you have to take the medicine.

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steady cyclist says...
2:05pm Wed 25 Jan 12

Nice to see our wardens are doing a fine job, and acting as a deterent to illegaly parking drivers, who cause mayhem outside schools, just perhaps turn into the playgrounnd and park there, to pick up your sprog, there is ususlly plenty of room, or just knock on some residents door and ask them to move their car so you can park, perhaps ask them fopr a cup of coffee as its cold waiting outside for the sprog.

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No.9 says...
2:35pm Wed 25 Jan 12

Ian... you have every right to be annoyed and you have my sympathy at least! I know exactly where you parked and it isn't dangerous, not zig-zagged and away from the bus stop. It would be a great dropping-off point if it weren't for the sheer volume of parents using their cars to take their kids to school which does result in people using the adjacent bus stop. I'm sure most parents would prefer to park legally but are forced to chance their luck rather than their child missing registration. Whilst there are many who "could" walk, equally there are many, such as yourself, who have no option other than to use the car - e.g. distance, disability or the need to travel to work immediately after the drop-off to avoid being late. It's a problem which won't go away without a lot of money being spent on a dedicated drop-off area which would require planning permission and the loss of even more of the school's playground (teachers' car park has doubled in size over the years). Regarding the traffic wardens - I'm afraid common sense is not part of their job description, they're sent to deter the "luck chancers" and get a few fines in while they're at it. Fair play to you, Ian, you've held your hands up, admitted you were wrong and paid the fine. You are also right to ask the council to explore a better solution.

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uncatom says...
4:01pm Wed 25 Jan 12

According to no 9 do something wrong and get caught its all somebody elses fault, lets blame the traffic wardens they have no sense, so how is this for a senario let everybody ignore the rules and park were they like, what would happen? chaos and accidents,I live near a school and even with restrictions in place its bedlam in the mornings the inconsiderate and the bone idle stop in the middle of the road to drop their 6ft strapping 17 year olds off a few yards from the school gates

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Mr Bollo says...
5:23pm Wed 25 Jan 12

My daughter went to that school until last year. I always dropped her off down Oakdene Rd or one of the other side roads and was always able to find a space reasonably near by, definitely not 3 miles away!

It used to infuriate me the amount of ignorant selfish parents who parked or even double parked outside the school on the bus stop. I used to beep my horn at the double parkers every day! I'm glad you got a ticket. Tough luck pal.

Furthermore, if more parents walked their kids in at least part of the way there wouldn't be so many little fatties around?

The best way to avoid a ticket though is to park on the pavement. One parent used to regularly do this by Woodchurch school (a fat woman in a huge 4x4 - what a surprise). I questioned a warden nearby one day as to whether he was going to ticket her. Apparently he couldn't as it was not within his juristriction! Totally amazing...so I slashed her tyres....hahahahaha only joking....but I was sorely tempted.

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ianhazz2 says...
6:11pm Wed 25 Jan 12

If you feel you need to comment at least read the thread properly before doing so. I live 3 miles away, I never said I park 3 miles away!!
Furthermore, read what I am actually complaing about: Quote "I will be writing to the local papers about this incident as I am not happy about the situation we are in with limited parking around the school and your wardens hiding around the corner, waiting for drivers to drop off their children"

Although not happy about getting a ticket i had to accept it but if read properly you will see that my complaint is 1) The ability to park outside or near the school is horrendous - This needs addressing by the council.
2) The Wardens were hiding in the road around the corner waiting for people to park, leave their vehicle and then issue tickets. Surely if this is a safety issue then they should have been standing prominent in front of the school deterring people from parking illegally warning them that if they parked there again they would get fined ... not hiding cowardly in an entry around the corner.
Saying that it would come as no suprise to me if the Wardens are told to do this as the council nowadays need to boost the coffers somehow!

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bickyboy says...
6:14pm Wed 25 Jan 12

Jack Boot wrote:
Prickyboil, you really are thick, were your parents cousins?

I wasn't aware that the Globe had its very own troll spreading its poison.

Its a shame really because Mr Hazlenut is the one who needs lambasting, not me.

I'll leave this thread to walk greener pastures
Is it a coincidence that this thread has already come on in leaps and bounds since your departure? I dont think so.
Its easier for people to express themselves when theyre not constantly being interrupted by the fatuous blatherings of a self regarding, bone-headed class clown.

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neilwg says...
9:37pm Wed 25 Jan 12

What other laws/restrictions do you ignore? Lets hope no one else ignores any laws/restrictions that may affect your child - but if they did you could hardly complain could you...

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ConcernedRatePayer says...
7:32am Thu 26 Jan 12

Mr Hazlehurst. You have said, and I quote " 2) The Wardens were hiding in the road around the corner waiting for people to park, leave their vehicle and then issue tickets " - I think you will find that the Wardens have to allow a certain period of time for an Illegally Parked Motor Vehicle to remain in situ before issuing a Ticket. Did it not perhaps occur to you that the chances of getting a Parking Ticket was fairly high and the presence of Parking Wardens in the Area was initially acting as a deterrent. To suggest that the Parking Wardens were hiding in the corner is just such a silly remark to make !

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ianhazz2 says...
8:55am Thu 26 Jan 12

ConcernedRatePayer wrote:
Mr Hazlehurst. You have said, and I quote " 2) The Wardens were hiding in the road around the corner waiting for people to park, leave their vehicle and then issue tickets " - I think you will find that the Wardens have to allow a certain period of time for an Illegally Parked Motor Vehicle to remain in situ before issuing a Ticket. Did it not perhaps occur to you that the chances of getting a Parking Ticket was fairly high and the presence of Parking Wardens in the Area was initially acting as a deterrent. To suggest that the Parking Wardens were hiding in the corner is just such a silly remark to make !
"A traffic warden or parking attendant may observe a vehicle for a few minutes to see if any such activity is going on before issuing a parking ticket, but there is an increasing trend to issue the ticket as soon as an illegally parked vehicle is seen. If you have been loading or unloading it is incumbent on the driver to produce evidence to that effect. There is no grace period." - A paragraph taken from www.parkingticket.co
.uk so I think YOU will find that your talking rubbish and are just another one jumping on the bandwagon. With regards to my 'silly remark' I was told by one of the neighbours who lives in the street that they were hiding in, that they had been hanging around there waiting since 8.40am. If that was the case then why were they in the road around the corner and not in front of the school as this was obviously the target area??

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bickyboy says...
9:13am Thu 26 Jan 12

At the end of the day, Mr H, the slightly tedious truth with regard to parking tickets is that if you do the crime, you must expect to do the time. I for one wouldn't dream of writing to the paper and complaining that I'd been issued with a ticket for a bang to rights case of breaking the law; not least because I already knew that others would have reacted to me in exactly the same way that theyve reacted to your letter; with the exception maybe of the idiot Boot.

I dont know whether parking wardens in different parts of the borough answer to varying sets of instructions, but I do know that when I overstayed in the main Liscard car park on one occasion last year I was given five minutes grace by the warden who noticed my expired ticket, and therefore had the chance to move my car and save £25. I'm grateful that some of them at least are human, but in any case I wouldnt have written to the paper to complain about being caught breaking the rules.

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Winsister says...
10:01am Thu 26 Jan 12

My kids walk to school every day, we dont own a car, it serves you right for getting a ticket. you are a moron i totally agree with Jack boot. Its people like you that are the problem, you are one of these drivers that think people owe you, just like the rest. You live 3 miles away? Change schools! or move. we are 5 minutes from my kids school, just incase they get ill and need picking up straight away. Park half a mile away instead of complaining. Lazy man. So glad you got caught

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ianhazz2 says...
10:32am Thu 26 Jan 12

Winsister wrote:
My kids walk to school every day, we dont own a car, it serves you right for getting a ticket. you are a moron i totally agree with Jack boot. Its people like you that are the problem, you are one of these drivers that think people owe you, just like the rest. You live 3 miles away? Change schools! or move. we are 5 minutes from my kids school, just incase they get ill and need picking up straight away. Park half a mile away instead of complaining. Lazy man. So glad you got caught
Your kids go the school they are in BECAUSE you dont own a car ... My child goes to that particular school because its a good school and we want him to go there.... You don't know me, you dont know my personal circumstances.. Who are you to call anybody a Moron ... Change schools or move?? What a joke comment... are you going to lend me the £150k to do that??
Again another poster jumps on the bandwagon and misses the whole point at hand - The parking around the school is non existant and needs addressing or as you don't have a car does this not concern you?

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Dantealighieri says...
11:55am Thu 26 Jan 12

Ianhezz2-Watching the match so far I have to say you've played a brilliant innings. Straight bat to block, snick to the boundary for a 4, a quick single here and there. Keeping you're cool, acting with dignity, despite the sledging by some ignorant uncouth yobs. Well done.

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bickyboy says...
12:37pm Thu 26 Jan 12

Winsister wrote:
My kids walk to school every day, we dont own a car, it serves you right for getting a ticket. you are a moron i totally agree with Jack boot. Its people like you that are the problem, you are one of these drivers that think people owe you, just like the rest. You live 3 miles away? Change schools! or move. we are 5 minutes from my kids school, just incase they get ill and need picking up straight away. Park half a mile away instead of complaining. Lazy man. So glad you got caught
Another alter ego, Dumbslug? Flippin' eck, you really are a persistent little troll.

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ordinary personn says...
1:05pm Thu 26 Jan 12

Mr Hazelhurst says that he had to park illegally as the parking at the school is non-existent and that outside the school parking is awful due to residents parking their cars outside their houses – I have a solution…..Knock the houses down so there are no selfish residents left to park their cars outside their houses and make the space left by the demolished houses into a car park. Problem sorted.

Of course if the residents are selfish enough to object to this and the parking situation remains the same the alternative is…..daring and radical I know but here it comes…………..a
s other posters have said maybe parents should try parking legally further away from the school and walking a little further?

But seriously – the problems with parking around schools are often created by parents and others who are dropping off and picking up children. My friend lives by a school and at 9 am and 3 pm the area is gridlocked with cars. People park cars on the zig zags, across residents’ drives, double park and block the road and park across junctions and drive far too quickly with no regard for the safety of their and other people’s children. Mr Hazelhurts asks for parking wardens to use common sense – I’d ask parents to use common sense and walk and/or park legally or maybe arrange a car pool so that one person drives several children. At the risk of being accused of being judgemental - I would guess that not all of them have no alternative other than driving and/or parking as close to the school as possible. If they are not prepared to do other than park illegally then people should take the consequences and pay the fine.

Spiffy – spot on! Wellies, raincoats and umberellas. I used to love walking to school wearing same and splashing in the puddles :)

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uncatom says...
1:09pm Thu 26 Jan 12

Are you not missing the point ianhazz ?traffic wardens have been put in place to monitor parking and deal with offenders and their presence will also act as a deterrant,will you park illegally next time? perhaps if you planned your school run and left a little bit earlier allowing some extra time to park and walk that little bit then you might find things a easier,but there is no point in denegrating people for doing their job or berating the council and demanding a parking space for 15 minutes a day ,thousands of other parents and grandparents manage to do it every day,be thankful it was only a fine and nobody was injured due to your inconsiderate parking

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KXT7668 says...
1:46pm Thu 26 Jan 12

I don't wish to get into personal slanging but would point out that a few minutes walk morning and afternoon are excellent for children and parents.
Wind and rain are quite normal and good shoes and a coat with a hood should suffice.
Set off a little bit earlier and park five minutes further away - you and the kids will benefit, you will have less stress and the area will be more pleasant for the residents who have to deal with pandemonium twice a day.

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ianhazz2 says...
2:13pm Thu 26 Jan 12

ordinary personn wrote:
My friend lives by a school and at 9 am and 3 pm the area is gridlocked with cars. People park cars on the zig zags, across residents’ drives, double park and block the road and park across junctions and drive far too quickly with no regard for the safety of their and other people’s children.

So you agree with me that there is a parking problem then....

What you fail to grasp is people have to work for a living... good idea in hindsight 'park bit further away and walk to school' .... then walk back to your car, get to work late and jepoardise your livelyhood... In an ideal world all great comments but the fact of the matter is we dont live in an ideal world.
There is no arguement against the fact that Parking around Schools is a problem and needs addressing... Fact!

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Dantealighieri says...
3:21pm Thu 26 Jan 12

Uncatom-"....be thankful....nobody was injured due to your inconsiderate parking2". Tell me something, would that statement still stand if Ianhezz2 had stuck a Blue Badge on his dashboard? He was fined for parking on yellow lines. That's it. Not for parking dangerously, not for parking inconsiderately, not for endangering lives. He did what Blue badge holders do in their millions, the only difference is they can, he can't.

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uncatom says...
3:27pm Thu 26 Jan 12

Yes people have to work for a living they also start at different hours of the day you are very lucky you can take your youngster to school some cant and have to make alternative arrangements,so in actual fact apart from the wind and rain excuse you also needed easy access to your car to get to work on time,so illegal parking could feature a lot for you during the week,as you quite rightly stated you chose the school for your youngster, you chose to live were you are, no problem, good on you but you must also choose to make proper arangements for the school run or it could become very costly,as you say in an ideal world,but its not and no one is going to give priority for vast areas of car parking space to ensure you are not late for work

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Mr Bollo says...
3:37pm Thu 26 Jan 12

ianhazz2 wrote:
ordinary personn wrote: My friend lives by a school and at 9 am and 3 pm the area is gridlocked with cars. People park cars on the zig zags, across residents’ drives, double park and block the road and park across junctions and drive far too quickly with no regard for the safety of their and other people’s children. So you agree with me that there is a parking problem then.... What you fail to grasp is people have to work for a living... good idea in hindsight 'park bit further away and walk to school' .... then walk back to your car, get to work late and jepoardise your livelyhood... In an ideal world all great comments but the fact of the matter is we dont live in an ideal world. There is no arguement against the fact that Parking around Schools is a problem and needs addressing... Fact!
Parking around schools is a problem because of idiots like you. Get out of bed earlier and allow enough time to get your kids to school and get to work on time. Or perhaps we should just all be allowed to park wherever whenever? There are zigzags by pedestrian crossings and double yellow lines on bus stops for a good reason. Grow a pair and take it like a man ffs.

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ordinary personn says...
3:37pm Thu 26 Jan 12

ianhazz2 wrote:
ordinary personn wrote: My friend lives by a school and at 9 am and 3 pm the area is gridlocked with cars. People park cars on the zig zags, across residents’ drives, double park and block the road and park across junctions and drive far too quickly with no regard for the safety of their and other people’s children. So you agree with me that there is a parking problem then.... What you fail to grasp is people have to work for a living... good idea in hindsight 'park bit further away and walk to school' .... then walk back to your car, get to work late and jepoardise your livelyhood... In an ideal world all great comments but the fact of the matter is we dont live in an ideal world. There is no arguement against the fact that Parking around Schools is a problem and needs addressing... Fact!
No, I do not agree that there is a parking problem. My point is that HOW people park creates a problem.
"Parking around schools is a problem and needs addressing ...Fact!" No, again it is HOW peole park which creates a problem which needs addressing. Oh - it is being addressed but not in a way you approve of, hence your complaint to the council and letter to the Globe.

Neither do I "fail to grasp that people have to work for a living". Having worked for well over 30 years (and still working) I understand that concept only too well. What I do fail to understand though is the proposal that parking a short distance from a school cannot be built into the "school run", that it is not possible to arrange car pools to reduce the number of cars or that the school cannot or will not provide before and after school provision. Furthermore, employees with young children have the right to ask their employer for flexible working hours which for those who can get this facility would negate getting to work late.

Sorry to sound unsympathetic but for me the bottom line is, that if you park illegally accept the consequences and don't bleat about it. If you choose to take your child to a school which is too far away to walk,again fine that is your choice but don't bleat about not being able to park or not being able to get to work on time if you cannot park by the school. Rather than trying to justify parking illegally and your choice of your child's schooling accept that you chose these things, they are your responsiblity and either put up with the inconvenience it causes or make different choices. In an ideal world we would all have our cake and eat it but as you say "the fact of the matter is we don't live in an ideal world".

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steady cyclist says...
5:00pm Thu 26 Jan 12

There is a large free car park available at the museum on Slatey road, a few minutes walk from the school,perhaps you could take the sprog to the museum on the way home to see some culture as well.A double plus.

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Devils_Ad says...
8:53pm Thu 26 Jan 12

I live oppisite a school and twice a day I am unable to get my car off my drive because of LAZY parents parking on pavements & to close to my driveway. I noticed you live in Prenton & your childs school is in Prenton so you can't live that far from the school. Pay the fine and think of childrens safety .Blaming the weather and carrying bags and been late for were ever is the biggest one in the book .hope you have learnt your lession from it

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neilwg says...
11:53pm Thu 26 Jan 12

Devils_Ad

"I noticed you live in Prenton & your childs school is in Prenton so you can't live that far from the school"

The Prenton bit is probably just lazy journalism from staff at the globe who look at the post code and see the sorting office in the address - or at least it is in many, many articles.

If it was Prenton then walking is probably just as quick as you'd miss out the nose to tail school run traffic driving from home towards the school, the walk from the legal parking to the school, the walk back to the car from the school, then the queue of nose to tail school run traffic back away from the school again. Morning and afternoon, five days a week

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bickyboy says...
9:32am Fri 27 Jan 12

Personally I think there should be a complete moratorium on parking within say, one hundred yards of schools, except of course for residents, staff and limited parking for delivery wagons. Maybe this would obliterate the shambles that occurs around schools twice a day, when people who drive as if they passed a test by the skin of their teeth (and only then because the examiner was a family friend) descend in frenetic and spacially ignorant hordes on localities which, for several hours a day are free from the rank bad parking and idiotic driving that seems to typify many participants in the lemming-like rush commonly known as the "school run". A member of school staff could be given powers to issue "on the spot" fines to those who continue to park in the banned areas, to save employing traffic wardens who have much better things to do such as ticketing those who park at bus stops.
Think of the revenue, Wirral Council. I mean, the Crimson Commissar could afford ten days in Barbados on expenses instead of Bognor.

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Devils_Ad says...
3:12pm Fri 27 Jan 12

I hear a lot of complaints about the lack of parking facilities. Can I remind these people these are schools, not supermarkets. These schools were built at a time when parking wasn't an issue.

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johnhardaker says...
3:37pm Fri 27 Jan 12

DearIan much as I dislike NSL wardens & the tactics they use you broke the law & you have been caught out fo parking illegaly sorry mate pay up & learn from you mistake .All the other rubbish & rudeness in the forum should have been censored by the globe & most people who wrote should know better

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bigfoot says...
4:48pm Fri 27 Jan 12

All well and good on the parking attendants,but demographically there is a difference between Woodchurch Road and Bidston Road or Beresford Road where I can't recall seeing an attendant on patrol. Who decides the area?

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pooboy says...
5:15pm Fri 27 Jan 12

I agree with mr.hazelhurst.he should park where he likes.he pays his taxes,he works hard.I would suggest he was running late and was a good father looking after his kids.ok,he broke the law...i bet EVERYONE on here has broken the law at least once this week.eg 32mph in a 30mph zone.he took a risk,got caught,but has paid his fine.he is making a salient point.the parking situation needs addressing before there is an accident.and until then stressed parents who are rushing to do their best will continue to do these short cuts...every school i know has the same problem....just i know in meols there are no wardens,so no chance of a ticket...where in birkenhead theres loads.....its a class issue as well. i say lay off mr hazelhurst,he is sticking up for the working class and deserves a medal.

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johnhardaker says...
5:41pm Fri 27 Jan 12

Bigfoot could it be where local councillors live or take their children like certain areas in wallasey & heswall where it seems to be no go areas for wardens??????

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Wirralresident5 says...
6:37pm Fri 27 Jan 12

Maybe people should check out the council website it lists all observation times traffic wardens need to give, so if you have had a ticket you will see that they can not give them instantly on yellow lines. Mr Hardbaker if you have been to Heswall lately you will notice they are hiding around every corner there too!

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Ben Beaconsfield says...
7:09pm Fri 27 Jan 12

A lot of though goes into what parking restrictions should be made around schools, and they are made with the safety of children, rather than the convenience of parents, in mind.

I am prepared to bet that the presence of traffic wardens was likely to be at the request of the school. Almost all schools have these sort of restrictions, and almost all schools have parents like Mr Hazlehurst who think they can pick and choose which laws to obey and which they can disregard.

Park a little further away - legally - and try walking the extra distance Mr H. You and your child might like it. In fact your four-year-old might find it a bit of an adventure compared with being hermetically sealed in a car.

Also - three bags for a four-year-old pupil? What is he, a part-time boarder?

Any by the way, a little bit of rain never hurt anybody.

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Winsister says...
6:06pm Sat 28 Jan 12

I DONT break the law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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!!!!!!!!!! I AM NOT A TROLL. And quite frankly i dont care where you park as long as its LEGAL CBA with this rubbish, Troll? whats your definition of a troll. and yes i am young, my step mum is 64 and she abides by the law. SOOOOOOOOO PLEASED YOU GOT A TICKET and i dont wanna know you

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spanner82 says...
10:04pm Sat 28 Jan 12

What an odd thing to complain about. There are hundreds of children attending each primary school and schools are situated close to residential places in order to make it easier to make the commute on foot. There simply are not the resources to allow parking adjacent to all schools.

It's also completely unnecessary given the majority of the pupils will live in the catchment area and the rest can travel and park somewhere within this catchment area. A child under 5 should aim for 180 minutes exercise per day, walking to and from school can really help meet this target.

Children don't melt in the rain, not even very small ones. In fact, pop on a pair of wellies and they tend to quite like it!

Mum of two children aged 3 and 7 and yes they walk to school/pre school.

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Ben Beaconsfield says...
10:00am Sun 29 Jan 12

spanner82:

Are you saying you know this child better than Mr Hazelhurst does? Are you implying that, on seeing a large puddle, said wellington-clad child would not dutifully avoid it but instead leap into the middle of it, splish-splashing as it does so? Surely not....

(This is ironic, by the way.)

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Dantealighieri says...
11:20am Sun 29 Jan 12

I cannot claim to be an expert on medical matters, but I did pick up a little knowledge by sitting quietly at the dinner table on any occasion when my late uncle, the renowned psychiatrist Sigmund Freud Dante, joined the family for a meal. His tales of interviews he carried out with various lunatics as he tried to probe their minds was both shocking, and yet sometimes amusing. Uncle Sigmund did however pass on some useful tips on signs to look for, lets say, in those who's mental state was in doubt. So as I say, I'm no expert, but on the basis of the little bit of knowledge I gained, I would ask the step mother of Win to seek medical help for her. There are signs there that children could be in more peril from her than any motorist parking on double yellow lines.

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Ben Beaconsfield says...
11:57am Sun 29 Jan 12

To be fair, Dantealighieri, perhaps she became confused as a result of a sensitive keyboard running awaaaaaaaaaaaay with her message.............
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Positive thinker says...
1:37pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Can't believe some idiot getting a justified parking ticket can create so
many comments.

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Jimrob says...
5:26pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Positive thinker wrote:
Can't believe some idiot getting a justified parking ticket can create so many comments.
SNAP!!!!

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steady cyclist says...
5:53pm Sun 29 Jan 12

He is justr attention seeking and will be asking for donations for the ticket cost soon.
LOL, AND LOL AGAIN

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djrimmer says...
3:39pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Decriminalised parking legislation was introduced to release the police to carry out more important duties.
However local authorities and the agents they use to carry out the legislation have turned a "freeing up the roads and safety programme" (the intention of the legislation) into a money making scam. Proof..........
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2092315/Traffic-ward
en-Hakim-Berkani-exp
osed-secret-10-ticke
ts-day-quota-scheme.
html

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djrimmer says...
4:36pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Decriminalised parking legislation was introduced to release the police to carry out more important duties.
However local authorities and the agents they use to carry out the legislation have turned a "freeing up the roads and safety programme" (the intention of the legislation) into a money making scam. Proof..........
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2092315/Traffic-ward
en-Hakim-Berkani-exp
osed-secret-10-ticke
ts-day-quota-scheme.
html

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Ben Beaconsfield says...
9:33am Tue 31 Jan 12

djrimmer:

With all due respect, in this instance - rubbish.

There is a higher proportion of young children:road traffic outside primary schools than anywhere else. Because of this, great care and attention is paid to child safety. This includes the imposition of parking restrictions. Anybody disregarding these restrictions is showing scant regard for the well-being of young children.

It's not about making money - it's about the lives of the young and the vulnerable.

Simples.

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djrimmer says...
4:28pm Tue 31 Jan 12

With due respect to you sir, I did not comment specifically on this case....of course parking in dangerous places needs controlling because there are and always be idiots who do not give a fig about anyone elses safety. The point I was making and have been making for a number of years is that councils have cottoned on to the fact that they can make a quick buck out of the public by hitting them with PCN`s which they rely on the public not challenging
when even they (the councils) are aware that in a large proportion of cases the PCN`s are unenforceable due to a number of resons that they are well aware of......as I stated in my previous post.....proof of their deliberate attemps to rip off the public is provided at the web site in my post above.....dont foget Wirral Council use NSL

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