Cuts being imposed by Government not Wirral Council

First published in Letters

WHEN will all of those people who keep writing to criticise the current council for the various proposed cuts realise that these cuts are not being imposed by our local council, they are merely the instrument by which they have to be applied?

The cuts are being forced on local councils by this heartless central government, and exactly as Thatcher did in her time, they deal the masterstroke by giving local opposition controlled councils the job of "choosing" where to apply the cuts, and so appearing to be the people without hearts, whereas the truth is that the required level of cuts is so high, that there is little choice but to hit at absolutely every single thing that is dear to us. 

And yes, the individual detailed cuts are hard and merciless.  But our council has no choice in the matter at all. 

Roy Pemberton,
West Kirby.

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1:09pm Tue 1 Jan 13

bigfoot says...

Round spherical objects! it is due to the loony council abject mismanagement both with policies and daft senior officer appointments,and then shelling out OUR TAX revenue with 'shut up' money!
Round spherical objects! it is due to the loony council abject mismanagement both with policies and daft senior officer appointments,and then shelling out OUR TAX revenue with 'shut up' money! bigfoot
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4:03pm Tue 1 Jan 13

bickyboy says...

The truth is somewhere between the positions outlined in the above contributions.

Councils have become used to wasting council taxpayers' money over a period of decades, and its a hard lesson to be told that they have to make choices which they have never had to make before. They're simply not equipped to make those choices, and changes, in the relatively short period of time available to them.

Government cuts will make it well nigh impossible for many councils to fulfil their statutory obligations, meaning that the intervention of commissioners is virtually inevitable. Presumably this is what government wants, so that they can blame councils for that failure and put essential services out to tender with their friends in private industry. "Friends" such as G4S, who already have a track record of cutting the wages of former public servants, of making bold promises to fulfil major contracts and then failing to deliver.
The truth is somewhere between the positions outlined in the above contributions. Councils have become used to wasting council taxpayers' money over a period of decades, and its a hard lesson to be told that they have to make choices which they have never had to make before. They're simply not equipped to make those choices, and changes, in the relatively short period of time available to them. Government cuts will make it well nigh impossible for many councils to fulfil their statutory obligations, meaning that the intervention of commissioners is virtually inevitable. Presumably this is what government wants, so that they can blame councils for that failure and put essential services out to tender with their friends in private industry. "Friends" such as G4S, who already have a track record of cutting the wages of former public servants, of making bold promises to fulfil major contracts and then failing to deliver. bickyboy
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3:17pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hugo1008 says...

The so called cuts being enforced from the Coalition National Government, are applied to numerous local authorities up and down the country.

That still does not excuse Wirral Borough Council from being the worst possible local authority in the country.

For decades the system on Wirral has been thoroughly riddled with vile, evil, corruption, lies, deceit, wrong or lack of honest information from a series of overpaid useless highly paid employees.
One each and every occasion been under the watchful eyes of a series of Councilors and Lord Mayors, who have time and time again proved they are not up to the job, or are so deeply enmeshed within the corrupt goings on, they have for the most part been afraid of rocking the trough of plenty.

There have been numerous inquiries, investigations and commissioned reports that either are suppressed, concealed, and whitewashed, all at huge public cost that the Councillors have chosen to do nothing about, again all at your cost.

So remember when you get a chance to vote for a peoples representative do not fall for the Party Political rubbish that they will peddle.

The best vote you can cast is for the rank outsider, this will send a loud and clear message to the deeply enmeshed useless bunch that are now in office that we the public have had enough of Party Politics in Local Government.
The so called cuts being enforced from the Coalition National Government, are applied to numerous local authorities up and down the country. That still does not excuse Wirral Borough Council from being the worst possible local authority in the country. For decades the system on Wirral has been thoroughly riddled with vile, evil, corruption, lies, deceit, wrong or lack of honest information from a series of overpaid useless highly paid employees. One each and every occasion been under the watchful eyes of a series of Councilors and Lord Mayors, who have time and time again proved they are not up to the job, or are so deeply enmeshed within the corrupt goings on, they have for the most part been afraid of rocking the trough of plenty. There have been numerous inquiries, investigations and commissioned reports that either are suppressed, concealed, and whitewashed, all at huge public cost that the Councillors have chosen to do nothing about, again all at your cost. So remember when you get a chance to vote for a peoples representative do not fall for the Party Political rubbish that they will peddle. The best vote you can cast is for the rank outsider, this will send a loud and clear message to the deeply enmeshed useless bunch that are now in office that we the public have had enough of Party Politics in Local Government. Hugo1008
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6:31pm Wed 2 Jan 13

David Scott says...

With by-elections on January 17th (in Heswall and in Leasowe & Moreton East), I am hoping that many more people will break from voting for the old failed parties. UKIP offers the commonsense non-tribal alternative, locally and nationally.

UKIP wants to see top salaries and allowances pruned, and 3 councillors per ward being cut to 2. That would show real leadership from the council and a will to protect valued front-line services and jobs.
With by-elections on January 17th (in Heswall and in Leasowe & Moreton East), I am hoping that many more people will break from voting for the old failed parties. UKIP offers the commonsense non-tribal alternative, locally and nationally. UKIP wants to see top salaries and allowances pruned, and 3 councillors per ward being cut to 2. That would show real leadership from the council and a will to protect valued front-line services and jobs. David Scott
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8:40am Fri 4 Jan 13

JohnON says...

We have some good hard-working councillors who, in a majority council, are trying to do their jobs with their hands tied behind their backs.

Seems to me that NOT voting for someone who you know works damned hard within the limits of not being the majority party in the council is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

The reality is that it doesn't matter a fig what "UKIP wants to see". This council will do exactly what it wants to do and voting for UKIP simply *reduces* the chances of seeing any change in the balance of power in the council.
We have some good hard-working councillors who, in a majority council, are trying to do their jobs with their hands tied behind their backs. Seems to me that NOT voting for someone who you know works damned hard within the limits of not being the majority party in the council is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. The reality is that it doesn't matter a fig what "UKIP wants to see". This council will do exactly what it wants to do and voting for UKIP simply *reduces* the chances of seeing any change in the balance of power in the council. JohnON
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11:58am Fri 4 Jan 13

David Scott says...

Time to get away from voting to ‘keep out the Tories’ or ‘keep out Labour’. In practice those parties have essentially the same assumptions, and do much the same, anyway. It’s time to vote for what makes sense to you.
Time to get away from voting to ‘keep out the Tories’ or ‘keep out Labour’. In practice those parties have essentially the same assumptions, and do much the same, anyway. It’s time to vote for what makes sense to you. David Scott
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1:28pm Sat 5 Jan 13

ordinary personn says...

David Scott wrote:
With by-elections on January 17th (in Heswall and in Leasowe & Moreton East), I am hoping that many more people will break from voting for the old failed parties. UKIP offers the commonsense non-tribal alternative, locally and nationally. UKIP wants to see top salaries and allowances pruned, and 3 councillors per ward being cut to 2. That would show real leadership from the council and a will to protect valued front-line services and jobs.
Will you be standing for election as a prospective UKIP councillor Dr Scott? If so will you be claiming expenses?

Or are you waiting to stand as a prospective UKIP MP at the next general election?
[quote][p][bold]David Scott[/bold] wrote: With by-elections on January 17th (in Heswall and in Leasowe & Moreton East), I am hoping that many more people will break from voting for the old failed parties. UKIP offers the commonsense non-tribal alternative, locally and nationally. UKIP wants to see top salaries and allowances pruned, and 3 councillors per ward being cut to 2. That would show real leadership from the council and a will to protect valued front-line services and jobs.[/p][/quote]Will you be standing for election as a prospective UKIP councillor Dr Scott? If so will you be claiming expenses? Or are you waiting to stand as a prospective UKIP MP at the next general election? ordinary personn
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7:33am Sun 6 Jan 13

David Scott says...

I am standing for UKIP in the Heswall by-election. If elected I would call for a reduction in councillors’ allowances of 25%. I don’t know if the council would legally be able to pay less than the agreed allowance to an individual councilor. If not I would make an annual donation of a corresponding amount to a good cause in Heswall.

I stood as UKIP general election candidate for Wirral South in 2005 and 2010. There is no UKIP candidate for Wirral South at the next election yet – whether I would want to apply to be the candidate I don’t know at the moment.
I am standing for UKIP in the Heswall by-election. If elected I would call for a reduction in councillors’ allowances of 25%. I don’t know if the council would legally be able to pay less than the agreed allowance to an individual councilor. If not I would make an annual donation of a corresponding amount to a good cause in Heswall. I stood as UKIP general election candidate for Wirral South in 2005 and 2010. There is no UKIP candidate for Wirral South at the next election yet – whether I would want to apply to be the candidate I don’t know at the moment. David Scott
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4:29pm Sun 6 Jan 13

ordinary personn says...

David Scott wrote:
I am standing for UKIP in the Heswall by-election. If elected I would call for a reduction in councillors’ allowances of 25%. I don’t know if the council would legally be able to pay less than the agreed allowance to an individual councilor. If not I would make an annual donation of a corresponding amount to a good cause in Heswall. I stood as UKIP general election candidate for Wirral South in 2005 and 2010. There is no UKIP candidate for Wirral South at the next election yet – whether I would want to apply to be the candidate I don’t know at the moment.
Thank you for your reply.
[quote][p][bold]David Scott[/bold] wrote: I am standing for UKIP in the Heswall by-election. If elected I would call for a reduction in councillors’ allowances of 25%. I don’t know if the council would legally be able to pay less than the agreed allowance to an individual councilor. If not I would make an annual donation of a corresponding amount to a good cause in Heswall. I stood as UKIP general election candidate for Wirral South in 2005 and 2010. There is no UKIP candidate for Wirral South at the next election yet – whether I would want to apply to be the candidate I don’t know at the moment.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your reply. ordinary personn
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11:10pm Sun 6 Jan 13

Hugo1008 says...

Well you have to hand it to Mr David Scott, a straight answer, Quick open Honest reply, And not ducking the issue.

When was the last time you heard that from a Prospective Councilor from any party

Maybe just maybe this guy has something that has been missing in local politics and local Government for a long time..
Well you have to hand it to Mr David Scott, a straight answer, Quick open Honest reply, And not ducking the issue. When was the last time you heard that from a Prospective Councilor from any party Maybe just maybe this guy has something that has been missing in local politics and local Government for a long time.. Hugo1008
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