Council leader rages against Government cuts (From Wirral Globe)

Stop giving the councils money to suspended officers.

So now local Labour are complaining that the government are having to make cuts to sort out the mess that the previous "Labour" government made.....Priceless!! This council seriously worries me.

unbeleivable wrote:
Stop giving the councils money to suspended officers.

Could not agree more. But the savings that are required are beyond practical even for WBC. Perhaps the entire wage bill of the council would be £100,000,000 so do they recommend that we no longer need a council at all. Which is some what fool hardy.

Point One:
What is foolhardy about not needing a council, what we do need is a dedicated small group of Leaders who would first and formost put the interests of the local population as their prime objective, regardless of Party Politics.

Point Two:
The present Coalition Government have made swinging cuts to all Councils and many other over beurocratic organisations throughout the Country,

What makes it worse for Wirral is the absolute shambles and utter disgrace that Wirral Local Government have made over the past twenty years or more with dreadful wasteage, illegal management, scandalous coverups, malpractice, misinformation, and corrupt secrecy, and this is still going on today with concealed information and a lack of transparency from top to bottom, and all that is the direct responsibility of the so called elected Councillors, not being fit for the job.

Point Three: If the electorate of Wirral do not wake up and smell the coffee this level of bad management is bound to continue, with or without financial impositions from the National Government whatever Political Party is in power, we as the voting population on Wirral need to clean up our own house right now.

So remember when you do get a chance to vote just what a disgrace the present bunch of 66 parasites for the most part have been up to for the last two decades.

Why not start by cutting by 25% the money councillors pay themselves?

This will save around a quarter of a million pounds a year - not a lot, perhaps, but it would show willing.

".........gather views on options.. blah blah blah ... on how savings can be found". Here's one for starters. Stop giving Tranmere Rovers £125,000 a year.

Ben Beaconsfield wrote:
Why not start by cutting by 25% the money councillors pay themselves?

This will save around a quarter of a million pounds a year - not a lot, perhaps, but it would show willing.

May I suggest that all the free parking around the Wallasey Town Hall is scrapped and staff and visitors pay a small fee. Not a lot, but another brick in the wall!

Distraction! distraction! distraction! Lets blame the government and distract the fools from the real reasons we have no monbey but can give big payouts to ex scoundrels.

Phil Davies,think on the monies you paid out to a bankrupt contractor for the west kirby marine lake £750.000.00,the £1.400.000.00 extras to Colas, councilors allowances£1.200.00
0.00 \Payoffs to useless officers £800.000.00approx travelling allowances to council staff twice the uk average ,reports by outside bodies £500.000.00 approx Paying off 3 chief executives in two years over £500.000.00,interes
t lost in putting deposits with icelandic banks,payoffs to senior DASS officers,Cheshire lines unchecked spending £12,000.000.00 £632,000.00 DASS overspend,£3.400.00
0.00 parking contract to NSL parking wardens,Plus a £40.000.000.00 overpriced contract to Colas.All under the labour party watch I believe, the list is endless no wonder the government are trying to stop this gross mismanagement & I use the word management in the most loose sense as far as I can see Wirral Council deserves the title a Really Rotten Borough,god help the hard working staff in most departments who are ruled by the clowns in Brighton Street.

Hugo1008 wrote:
Point One:
What is foolhardy about not needing a council, what we do need is a dedicated small group of Leaders who would first and formost put the interests of the local population as their prime objective, regardless of Party Politics.

Point Two:
The present Coalition Government have made swinging cuts to all Councils and many other over beurocratic organisations throughout the Country,

What makes it worse for Wirral is the absolute shambles and utter disgrace that Wirral Local Government have made over the past twenty years or more with dreadful wasteage, illegal management, scandalous coverups, malpractice, misinformation, and corrupt secrecy, and this is still going on today with concealed information and a lack of transparency from top to bottom, and all that is the direct responsibility of the so called elected Councillors, not being fit for the job.

Point Three: If the electorate of Wirral do not wake up and smell the coffee this level of bad management is bound to continue, with or without financial impositions from the National Government whatever Political Party is in power, we as the voting population on Wirral need to clean up our own house right now.

So remember when you do get a chance to vote just what a disgrace the present bunch of 66 parasites for the most part have been up to for the last two decades.

before i even read half of this comment,i guessed you vote tory. i wonder if i'm correct?

Uncle_Fester wrote:
So now local Labour are complaining that the government are having to make cuts to sort out the mess that the previous "Labour" government made.....Priceless!! This council seriously worries me.

Labour did not cause the international financial crisis. Maybe you should put down Cameron's script and find out for yourself what really caused the problems we face. As for Phil Davies the village idiot, am I right in saying he was refering to union members as living in cloud cuckoo land for opposing the cuts. Has the penny finally dropped for this fool that by passing on these cuts without any resistance he is merely playing into the hands of the tories. So while Jeff Green has his feet up taking shots at the labour council through local media, Phil Davies looks like the hatchet man and has to deal with the public backlash from tory cuts. Mug

Do we really need three councillors per ward,Liberals now lost in the'wilderness' . Three councillors Bidston all Labour three councillors Eastham ,Liberals reduce 66 to 33 .That will save money on allowances ,additional payments for being the chair of Scrutiny Committees and travel expenses.

If the coucil want to make pots of money why don't they start by sorting the traffic chaos around schools at 09.00 and 15.00 fining all the parents parking illegally on pavements, grass verges, causing obstructions, they could make a fortune and maybe also save a childs life.

craigot89 wrote:

Uncle_Fester wrote:
So now local Labour are complaining that the government are having to make cuts to sort out the mess that the previous "Labour" government made.....Priceless!! This council seriously worries me.

Labour did not cause the international financial crisis. Maybe you should put down Cameron's script and find out for yourself what really caused the problems we face. As for Phil Davies the village idiot, am I right in saying he was refering to union members as living in cloud cuckoo land for opposing the cuts. Has the penny finally dropped for this fool that by passing on these cuts without any resistance he is merely playing into the hands of the tories. So while Jeff Green has his feet up taking shots at the labour council through local media, Phil Davies looks like the hatchet man and has to deal with the public backlash from tory cuts. Mug

Let's not start creating a myth that somehow the Tories conspired to lose control at the last council elections.

The truth is that Jeff Green and his 'media advisor' threw it away.

A straightforward willingness to find economies and cut waste would be a lot more productive than a 'consultation' spin exercise. As has been said by others, there are many relatively minor savings that could be made, and they would add up to a tidy sum.

At last, they're making the right noises. Will they follow them up with the right actions?
Will councillors head en masse down to Whitehall and chain themselves to the railings outside Downing Street, demanding to be given a Plebs' Hearing, and refusing to leave until the PM agrees to a realistic cuts agenda instead of a slash and burn demolition job on those who can least afford it? Will the 66 make the ghost of Wat Tyler proud?
I'd be so impressed if they did.

Well under the Wirral Council expenses system, Cllr Phil Davies gets his travel expenses to and from seeing government ministers to lobby on behalf of Wirral Council, only if he invites the other political parties along. Let's face it train fare to London and back isn't cheap!

johnhardaker wrote:
Phil Davies,think on the monies you paid out to a bankrupt contractor for the west kirby marine lake £750.000.00,the £1.400.000.00 extras to Colas, councilors allowances£1.200.00

0.00 \Payoffs to useless officers £800.000.00approx travelling allowances to council staff twice the uk average ,reports by outside bodies £500.000.00 approx Paying off 3 chief executives in two years over £500.000.00,interes

t lost in putting deposits with icelandic banks,payoffs to senior DASS officers,Cheshire lines unchecked spending £12,000.000.00 £632,000.00 DASS overspend,£3.400.00

0.00 parking contract to NSL parking wardens,Plus a £40.000.000.00 overpriced contract to Colas.All under the labour party watch I believe, the list is endless no wonder the government are trying to stop this gross mismanagement & I use the word management in the most loose sense as far as I can see Wirral Council deserves the title a Really Rotten Borough,god help the hard working staff in most departments who are ruled by the clowns in Brighton Street.

This report is spot but Phil Davies again treats the public as idiots and attempts to hoodwink them into believeing it is all the Governments doing. The labour group has done irreparable damage to Wirral and are still following the same poor management that has created this mess, the mismanagement goes on and on and everyone else is to blame, come on Cllr Davies wake up and smell the coffee you and your party colleagues are the problem not in any part the solution.

it is quite obvious all parties who have had control over the last 12 years have systematically bled the public purse
through greed, corruption, mismangement abuse they should round all the clowns up and ship the to billy smarts circus!!! then elect a small group
of commited people who actually give a **** about the people of wirral !!

Rage, rage against the dying of the budget.
I don't entirely blame Labour for this, actually. As in the days of Thatcher, Tory policy towards local government settlements isn't simply about austerity measures to deal with the budget deficit: it's about throwing Labour-controlled local authorities into crisis in areas where the Tories tend not to do so well, in the forlorn hope that the working class will be dumb enough to change the knee-jerk voting habits of a lifetime and choose a Tory instead.
ook at the self satisfied sneer on the face of George Osborne and ask yourself this, in all seriousness: is that the face of a man you would trust with the future of Britain's poor?

Ook....good word but not the right one. LOOK at the self satisfied...etc etc..

Ben Beaconsfield wrote:

craigot89 wrote:

Uncle_Fester wrote:
So now local Labour are complaining that the government are having to make cuts to sort out the mess that the previous "Labour" government made.....Priceless!! This council seriously worries me.

Labour did not cause the international financial crisis. Maybe you should put down Cameron's script and find out for yourself what really caused the problems we face. As for Phil Davies the village idiot, am I right in saying he was refering to union members as living in cloud cuckoo land for opposing the cuts. Has the penny finally dropped for this fool that by passing on these cuts without any resistance he is merely playing into the hands of the tories. So while Jeff Green has his feet up taking shots at the labour council through local media, Phil Davies looks like the hatchet man and has to deal with the public backlash from tory cuts. Mug

Let's not start creating a myth that somehow the Tories conspired to lose control at the last council elections.

The truth is that Jeff Green and his 'media advisor' threw it away.

Talk about putting words in my mouth! I did not suggest they purposely threw away the election. I am making the point that by passing on these cuts without resistance they are just the same as the Tories. If anyone's creating myths it's you.

dont-look-back-in-an
ger:

Wonder no more, If you had been up to date, or read any of my posts in the past
You would understand better.

I actually voted for Tony Blair the first time round, then I realised he was even worse than Maggie Thatcher, after that I woud never vote for any of the so called three main parties again.

On a local level I am surprised that the National Labour Party allow this corrupt and disgraced group to use the title Labour, they bring he whole meaning of Party Politics in Local Government into absolute disgrace.

That is why I would like to scrap the whole 66 Council Parasites once and for all.

We in Wirral deserve some clean honest open fair peoples representatives and good clean fair management for a change.