PEOPLE POWER STOPS HEALTH SCHEME

PEOPLE POWER STOPS HEALTH SCHEME PEOPLE POWER STOPS HEALTH SCHEME

A CONTROVERSIAL telephone helpline that patients were unwittingly signed up to has been postponed.

Wirral’s Primary Care Trust wilted under pressure after it was deluged with complaints about the Wirral Keep Well scheme.

The service - designed to try to reduce hospital admissions - would have offered telephone advice from nurses and other health professionals.

But the PCT launched it without explaining that the service would be run by the private firm Health Dialog, which is owned by Bupa and has its base in Boston, Massachusetts.

The Wirral service would have operated out of a call centre in Cambridge.

People were also only notified of the scheme - which would cost about £9.60 per patient - in a postcard which gave only brief details of what it entailed.

Initial calls to a helpline number failed to gather any further information. Most controversially, many patients were angry that the scheme was something they would have to opt out from - and were initially only given two weeks in which to do so - rather than volunteering themselves to join it.

Now the scheme - that some GPs had already opted out from - has been suspended.

Leah Fraser, the councillor for Liscard who protested against the “opting out” aspect of the plan, said: “Had the Globe not exposed the plans of the PCT, our personal and confidential health records would, by now, be on their way to this American company.

She continued: “This is, without doubt, a victory for common sense.

“We must also thank the thousands of patients across Wirral who have flooded their GPs with ‘opt outs’.

“It is clear from the comments made by the PCT chief executive Kathy Doran that this project had major flaws and should never have got as far as it did. I also believe that the PCT have, perhaps, learned a lesson from when they closed wards 6 and 7 at Victoria Central Hospital.

“Among many people in Wallasey, the reputation of the PCT has never recovered. It seems they were not prepared to risk a repeat of ignoring public opinion this time.”

Ms Doran admits in a letter to the Globe this week: ”Concerns were mainly around data protection, confidentiality of patient information, a lack of clarity on the benefits of the service for patients and the way this was communicated to Wirral residents.”

But accusing the Globe of “misinformation”, she adds: “I am confident that our proposals are fully compliant with all UK data protection laws and NHS best practice.

“There has never been any intention to send patient data to America, nor will there be. I can also assure your readers that no data has been shared, nor do they need to take any further action in respect of opting out.

“The PCT intends to take time to respond to people’s concerns and to ensure that this valuable service and its benefits are clearly communicated. It is for this reason that we have decided to postpone the introduction of Wirral Keep Well.

“The PCT will continue to work with its GPs and patient represent-atives to ensure that when we introduce the service, what it is and its benefits will be clearly explained and Wirral residents will be able to make a fully informed decision about using it.

“We will be writing to all Wirral residents to update them.”

Former Liscard Labour councillor Dave Hawkins said: “I think we must give full marks to the Globe. Their robust report ensured that the PCT will now step back and rethink the quality of its consultation.

“The PCT has now clarified some misunderstandings and thanks to the Globe they have come clean about their lack of transparency and their misjudgment about opting out, instead of opting in to the scheme.

“What we now need is meaningful consultation so that the people of Wirral know exactly what it is they are being offered so that they can make informed judgments about whether they wish to participate.

“I’m glad to see that the PCT will now write to every Wirral household with better information. I hope they will also consult with the council and the Wirral Members of Parliament.”

Comments(11)

Leah Fraser says...
12:21pm Wed 6 Aug 08

I'm afraid Kathy Doran would say that, wouldn't she? The Primary Care Trust is totally unaccountable to Wirral residents, as we saw with wards 6 and 7. I'm afraid it's not good enough for the Chief executive of this Government QUANGO to blame the press or the public for this latest fiasco. Thousands of pounds of money, allocated for healthcare, has been wasted on this exercise and yet Ms Doran is unable to say 'sorry'. Had the PCT bothered to consult BEFORE announcing this latest scheme, they may not be in the position they are in today.

Nigel Sedgwick says...
1:21pm Wed 6 Aug 08

It is amazing that the PCT and Kathy Doran in particular don't seem to get the point. The records are not the property of the PCT, they are the property of each individual patient. Sending a postcard (looking like junk mail so people would just throw it away) with some sort of tick box arrangement is no way to ask people for permission to send personal and private medical records to a company in the UK or anywhere else.

How much money did the PCT stand to make from this - has anyone thought to ask?

And what safeguards were in place to prevent the company passing information on to someone else, in the UK or elsewhere? No doubt for another fee, perhaps.

Nigel Sedgwick

johnjones says...
3:18pm Wed 6 Aug 08

A round of applause for the Wirral Globe who's misreporting has lead to this hold up! Poor sensationalistic journalism designed to cause panic. What's wrong Justin? Doesn't GOOD news sell? A terrible terrible decision by the PCT....forced to halt proceedings because of BAD JOURNALISM...be ashamed of yourselves

warescouse says...
7:25pm Wed 6 Aug 08

For the PCT to complain about the Wirral Globe is pathetic. I found out about the 'junk mail' from a friend. I then retrieved it from my rubbish. I was livid about this disgraceful ill thought out attack on my privacy.

I contacted the ICO long before I read about it in the globe. People are beginning to wake up to attacks on privacy. Whether it is the PCT or perhaps even British Telecom with their Phorm WebWise product that want to monitor all our online web surfing data to insert adverts.

It is an attack on privacy that must be stopped.

properlabourite says...
9:38pm Wed 6 Aug 08


i wonder if all this had not been exposed by the globe and all the information did end up i the great U S of A was there a more sinister side like organ doner and blood doner for money also was this just opening the back door of privatising the NHS a little wider and if it was such a good thing why was a British company involved dont you think we have sold enough of our country to foriegn investors wake up Britain before it is to late

djrimmer says...
10:05pm Wed 6 Aug 08

Together with the press, people power has reigned supreme and put the blocks on this attempt by the PCT to steamroller another unwanted project. Isnt it now about time we, the council tax payers of Wirral, applied the same processes to the incompetent residents of the town hall who are hell bent of playing party politics with our lives. I note that a certain local conservative councillor has tried to make gain from results forced by the residents of Wirral, not by any action taken by themselves, somewhat typical of party politicians. The voice of the people is gaining momentum.

47Mike says...
10:19pm Wed 6 Aug 08

I and my wife would like to express our gratitude to The Wirral Globe by highlighting the short comings of the proposed scheme. We both wrote to our surgery to opt out.

I cannot understand how in this day and age how the PCT can be even contemplate reducing hospital beds and replacing them with talking to some nurse in the USA if you have a problem.

The standard of the National Health Service not just in the Wirral but throughout the UK has declined steadily during the past 15 years. More money taken from taxpayers but declining standards. Hospitals full of infections, inefficient and staff fighting a losing battle to overcome the bureaucracy imposed on them by trust managers. Health care executives are being payed 'fat cat' salaries to run these services but appear to be incompetent, they would not last 5 minutes in private industry.

The open letter from Kathy Doran, which tries to make excuses for the PCT's incompetence in this affair, is condescending and is a typical example that there is no accountability in the Public Services where money is wasted on trying to keep the infrastructre intact, but in the case of healthcare, at the expense of the patients needs.

We have come a long way from the days of Florence Nightingale who tried to stamp out infections but did not have the technologies to save patients lives. Today we have the marvelous technologies through life saving operations only to end up in wards full of infections!

Mike from Bromborough

Channy says...
1:29am Thu 7 Aug 08

Oh so it's us stupid people who have got things wrong not really the PCT. If only we had understood it properly all would be well it seems that Kathy Doran is saying. NO Ms Doran we understood it we just don't want it!!

JC57 says...
1:36pm Thu 7 Aug 08

If this is how the PCT treats its patients then we've got the wrong people on the trust.
Kathy Doran and the others who thought they could rail road this scheme through,which is clearly what they intended,should resign immediately if they have any sort of decency in them.
It is simply staggering how the scheme was sent out on the basis that no response meant our acceptance to it.
Surely an independant inquiry is required to get to the bottom of this and possibly other similar schemes where money is no doubt involved.
Well done Globe for flagging this up to me and others who may have simply ignored the post card as a joke.

John,Bebington

ian_dude says...
10:17pm Thu 7 Aug 08

Recently I have been starting to lose my faith in people. This is mostly to do with the general apathy that is contained in this country. However, I am extremely glad to see that people are willing to see stand up and say no, respectively.

However I think this short "victory" will be a very short one indeed, mostly due to the scheme being ONLY postponed and not cancelled altogether.

Allow me to make things clearer. A lot of people seemingly cried out against this scheme because of the way it was proposed to us in the form of the blue notice offering the 'opt out' system, however we have been swindled still. Privacy and confidentiallity was not the schemes aim, so why is it the mostly brought up aspect of this scheme?

The fact remains that whether our private and confidential information be in America, Norway, Australia, or Britain's Cambidge, wont take away the fact of what was being pushed onto us. A call in scheme, to take stress off hospitals.

It is my understanding that hospitals are there to diagnose the Ill, and even better to treat them. what can a person on the phone tell you about your illness? or your conditions? can they give you an X-Ray over the phone? can they give you an MRI scan over the phone? how can someone hundreds of miles away even concieve of the idea of telling the sick and the ill that they shouldn't go to hospital?

I would like to know what would happen when, not IF, but WHEN someone falls under greater illness as a result of misdiagnosis from a misinformed and undertrained person working a few hundred miles away at a call centre over the phone, what will people say? How will people react when they realise that this is a way of destroying the relationship between the doctor and the patient.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING TOLD SYMPTOMS AND SEEING SYMPTOMS. that's why doctors are there! Isn't it?

This might sound like I'm seeing something thats not there, but this is logic. Doctors are there to see the symptoms of a patient and then to treat it as required.

The new scheme was never intended for us to fully understand what was going to happen, otherwise they would have told us, and very intelligantly allowed the public to volunteer, as anyone with half a brain and half a business mind would have understood.

It is becoming more apparent to me in the last two years that this country is trying to push the idea of a privatised health scheme onto us. This is just one small step of achieving this, shunning the public with silly notions that the scheme is to make things better.

I say again, what is better than a doctor seeing the symptoms of the patient?

As we all should be aware of by now Tesco, the huge supermarket has been branching out to new levels of customer services, one of these int he past year has been buying shares in the NHS.

What are tesco's interests in the NHS? And even more to the point, who's best interest are NHS going to take, the taxpayers? who now only account for a percentage of hospitals funds, or the companies who are buying themselves into the NHS? tell me, if someone was giving you £10 for cleaning their windows and someone else gave you £200 for the same job, who would you favour more?

This sneaky scheme seems to part of a larger one that people are overlooking. I understand how important data confidentiality is to some people, however, confiedentiality is not the cause, and will not be the outcome of this scheme.

This is very obviously part a hand into privatising our National Health Service. and while you might decide to ignore this notion as a conspiarcy, please, please i urge you to look at the facts of what is and what was being offered in this scheme.

You fought rightly but for the wrong reasons, and what a short victory it will be when the health service will be turned into a circus of untreated patients due to misundertsanding, misinformation, misdiagnosis, and misleading.

I hope I am wrong, I really do, but this wont end, and you all know it.

Ray Rowland says...
5:36pm Tue 12 Aug 08

I wonder if kathy doran was chewing gum (as per usual) when she wrote the letter to the Globe.
She is naive if she believes that the information passed to an American company will remain covered by the data protection act, it will fly "electronically" across the Atlantic into the companies "secure server" as we where originally informed and will then be out of the protection of the DPA, This is as well as the information held on servers in the United States, secure or otherwise, is up for scrutiny by the U.S security services under legislation peculiar to the American legislature.
Let's stop trying to be so underhand Ms Doran how can health coaches give advice to someone who they don't know and according to you have no way of knowing as the system supposedly holds restricted data without any real term identity.
We are all very grown up people here and we don't need you to screw up our lives any further than you already have. Pass this duty to the GP's, as you have been requested to.
You know it makes sense if only you would give up the favours from BUPA.

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