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Promenade poop peril

4:37pm Monday 21st January 2008

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IRRESPONSIBLE dog owners are making a real mess for walkers who regularly stroll along a popular stretch of Wirral seafront.

Alan Garner regularly walks along Seacombe promenade and onto the beach with his wife and children.

But he told Globe that the area is fast becoming blighted by dog mess and wants the council to impose fines on owners whose pets use the area as a toilet.

"It's a big problem in the area and is worse at the weekend," he told the Globe. "My wife and I walk along the seafront every weekend and the dog muck is everywhere.

"It's nice to walk along the promenade, but who wants to do that when they have to dodge the muck all of the time. It's irresponsible dog owners letting their pets use the place as a toilet which is the problem.

"We sometimes go to the Egremont Ferry and on Sunday and you have to dodge the dog muck that is lying around outside."

Mr Garner has contacted Wirral's Streetscene department on many occasions and the problem is dealt with, but he says the issue that is getting out of control.

"It's Capital of Culture in Liverpool and here we are living in dogmuck alley.

"It doesn't give the right impression to people visiting Wirral from Liverpool this year if the first thing they see when crossing the Mersey is dog mess.

"My children are young and I don't want them getting muck on their clothes and treading it back into the house."

Under the Dogs (Fouling of Land) Act 1996 by the Fouling of Land by Dogs Order 1998 it is an offence for an owner or keeper of a dog to fail to clear up after their dog has fouled in Wirral's public places. Failure to comply can result in a prosecution and a fine of up to £1,000 .Alternatively you may be offered a fixed penalty notice of £50.

Seacombe Labour councillor Adrian Jones urged owners to clean up after their pets.

"It's a real and increasing problem," he said. "I regularly scoop up after my own dog and I have on occasion very robustly offered poop bags to offending dogs. Some owners are irresponsible.

"The dog wardens are extremely watchful and the penalties for those caught are high.

"But the whole question of penalties is at the extreme end of things. We shouldn't have to impose penalties, because people shouldn't be irresponsible in the first place.

"This tiny minority is as much by the majority of dog walkers as by the general public at large."


Your Say YourWirral Globe

Jack Frost, birkenhead says...
7:09pm Mon 21 Jan 08

I've been down to NB and Eggy many times, especially weekends, ie peak times, and I have never ever seen a dog warden, however if I ever see a dog doing its business I will always watch to see if the dog walker does 'his or her duty' and to date I have never been disappointed !

However, if I look around, the place is indeed full of dog sh1t, so obviously the gulity ones don't walk their pets during peak times...

If the council spent as much on out of hours dog wardens, as peak time traffic wardens I'm sure their revenue would receive a significant increase.

But hey as a cynic, its easier to slap a ticket onto a windscreen than to tackle an anti-social sh1t spreader.

marje, says...
11:26pm Mon 21 Jan 08

My sentiments exactly.
The majority do clean up after their pets,so obviously those sh.t spreading owners dont give a sh.t.(excuse the pun).Maybe the council could try speed gun cameras to catch the fastest sh.tters in the north west.being caught on camers not cleaning up their sh.t might just work.Come on dog wardens HOW ABOUT IT?

Linda, Seacombe says...
5:21am Tue 22 Jan 08

My partner and I walked along the prom from the Egremont Ferry to Seacombe Ferry last week and commented on the amount of dog doings, while having to dodge it - it was also spreading with all the rain! It was like a game of Hopscotch!

Also the amount of cigarette butts on the floor (around all the tables) outside the Egremont Ferry Pub was a site to be seen!

Nemo, says...
10:25am Tue 22 Jan 08

The majority do clean up after their pets


Well clearly the majority do NOT, else we would not be seeing the amount of dog muck that we do. It's not just the promenade - look around Bidston Hill, or Royden Park, or New Brighton beach. Same problem everywhere. And how many dog wardens does WMBC employ to enforce the toothless legislation? TWO, if my information is correct. So once again, the lazy and the feckless will continue to take their manners and their morals everywhere they go, safe in the knowledge that they are exteremly unlikely to be caught.

Sally, Wirral says...
11:51am Tue 22 Jan 08

Are there any dog mess bins along the streach he's moaning about,why is it always moans about dog owners,what about noisy unruly kids running everywhere screaming and shouting when you are trying to have a peacfull walk.
It makes me laugh that when I go to a pub I cant take the dog in but there are children running around and screaming every where.
Can I point out to the world that not everyone can have or even want children.

sue, wallasey says...
12:32pm Tue 22 Jan 08

Yes Sally, there's a large mess bin - its called the Mersey. But hey, who wants to pollute the water when the dogs can do it on land! Do you clean up after your dog (if you have one)? There's nothing worse than walking the stretch between New Brighton and Seacombe than seeing somebody (usually hoodies) with pit bulls allowing them to sh*t as and when. Do they clear up - no cos they probably can't afford the crap bags.

You wish to point out that not everyone can or wants children. Well not everybody wants to tread in dog sh*t!

n/a, wallasey says...
2:08pm Tue 22 Jan 08

its not just people that dont pick up after their dog its those people that just throw the bag in the bushes aswell. we need more bins along the prom for people to but the bags in. as i usually find that i can walk for about 20 mins before i can put my poo bag in the bin

trebie, egremont says...
7:30pm Tue 22 Jan 08

Oh ****!!

SPM, Wirral says...
10:39am Wed 23 Jan 08

Follow those who do this and sxxt on thier door step. Also kill the **** machine.

Wendels, New Brighton says...
11:56am Wed 23 Jan 08

I agree with the comments about the poo bins, there are not enough of them. However, my issue is the mindless idiot that allows their hound to foul outside my front gate. Without fail every dusky morning or dark evening I always slide in the stuff. Worse still the weekly deposit left in my front garden!! If I find out who owns the dog(s) fouling in this manner I will deposit it back in their garden!! Just for the rant the owner of the dog in my street that allows it to run wild, jumping over garden walls and terrorising my cats, needs to be shot! By the way - I always clean up after my hound!

pooperscooper, willaston says...
10:23pm Wed 23 Jan 08

what the pubs or the dog!!!!! its not just N.B try elm road willaston, poop every day fresh as you like, looks great on my carpet..... more signs needed, and fines delt... fed up of reporting it. nothing gets done. do we have dog wardens?? or are they all on holiday?

Joan Cleater-Nickson, wallasey says...
10:29am Thu 24 Jan 08

If there is one thing that stimulates controvesy its dog whoopsy. It is a disgusting mess about the place. Sally brings up the comparison to noisy children, but they dont down pants and plop on the pavement. If dog owners dont like the unsavoury side of dog ownership, they should not have dogs. I have have a large standard poodle called Dick, (he's better than a husband)whenever i take him for walkies i always carry my gloves and plastic bags, also a little bag of sand, just in case he's a bit loose. Outside my flat door i have a plastic tray with disinfected water, beside it, a rough mat for cleansing of soles. The ZEN of dog management.

lee boulton, wallasey says...
12:45pm Thu 24 Jan 08

I am a dog owner and a keen sea angler so use the prom all the time, and the situation with dog owners and anglers getting all the greive for messing the prom up is a disgrace.If the council would put half a dozen bins along the length of the prom there mite actualy be some were to put the dog`s mess and rubbish from other activities.It seems crazy that there are so few bins along the prom from seacombe to New Brighton , when the council are spending thousands on the shelter at vale park for all the local drunks to sit in.All i ask is when the bright spark at the council dishing out the money for the renovation of the prom please set a bit a side for half a dozen more bins, you can`t just put all the blame on us dog owners when you don`t give us any where to put the muck.In the meen time why don`t the local courts make all the yobs who are on community service do two daily walks along the prom making sure there was no mess left mite make them think next time they make some one`s life hell.

lee, wallasey says...
12:52pm Thu 24 Jan 08

sue wrote:
Yes Sally, there\'s a large mess bin - its called the Mersey. But hey, who wants to pollute the water when the dogs can do it on land! Do you clean up after your dog (if you have one)? There\'s nothing worse than walking the stretch between New Brighton and Seacombe than seeing somebody (usually hoodies) with pit bulls allowing them to sh*t as and when. Do they clear up - no cos they probably can\'t afford the crap bags. You wish to point out that not everyone can or wants children. Well not everybody wants to tread in dog sh*t!
The river isn`t a bin, that`s just as bad as leaving it on the prom itself.The only time you get any type of warden down there is if you are fishing with your vehicle on the prom and they give you a big hefty fine.As of the huddies they will let there dogs poo anywhere and not bother picking up so to class all dog walkers as huddies aint to clever now is it.

teki, Birkenhead says...
3:11pm Thu 24 Jan 08

So lee boulton,how dare WE blame dog owners for the dog s**t on the prom!!!! You t*t! Put it in a bag and stick it up your a*** for all I care. If I see your dog doing it that's where it's going. Don't blame the bins for your lazy,s**t attitude. I'll be looking out for you.

lee boulton, wallasey says...
5:14pm Fri 25 Jan 08

teki wrote:
So lee boulton,how dare WE blame dog owners for the dog s**t on the prom!!!! You t*t! Put it in a bag and stick it up your a*** for all I care. If I see your dog doing it that's where it's going. Don't blame the bins for your lazy,s**t attitude. I'll be looking out for you.
Nice one teki i`m the one in the wheel chair so not that hard to miss me, do you always go around picking on the vunrable A++e hole.No one finds it more annoying than me when your wheels go through it idiot.Isn`t bhead full of s**t anyway,so i`LL BE KEEPING A LOOK OUT FOR YOU i gaver you`ll be the one with the knob on your head, why don`t you stay over your side of the docks any pleb.

mike hunt, eggy ferry says...
10:31pm Fri 25 Jan 08

Does anyone think that the dog pictured with this article looks constipated?

Jack Frost, birkenhead says...
10:38pm Fri 25 Jan 08

lee.. you are not a typical **** spreader ur a champion **** spreader...

if I challenge one of ur kind they have always said 'oh I never noticed my dog was sh1tting all over the pavement so that other people can walk in it'

but you also pull out the wheel chair argument, I will be looking out for you too,

in fact I'll tip you over into some of your dog's faeces...


teki, Birkenhead says...
9:38am Sat 26 Jan 08

That was quite funny. Yer,you look out for me leeboy,I'll be wearing a pink carnation and have a copy of the times under my arm,which I'll use to give you a d*mn good thrashing! ****

The Boult Meister, The Promenade says...
4:56pm Sat 26 Jan 08

teki wrote:
That was quite funny. Yer,you look out for me leeboy,I'll be wearing a pink carnation and have a copy of the times under my arm,which I'll use to give you a d*mn good thrashing! ****
Bit of hot news for you Teki.... been on the prom fishing today - saw plenty of fresh dog hoads being laid and left. Mostly by women who tend to give a coy look over their shoulders and walk off!

Do the pink carnations match your pink thong?!

The Boult Meister, The Promenade says...
4:58pm Sat 26 Jan 08

Jack Frost wrote:
lee.. you are not a typical **** spreader ur a champion **** spreader... if I challenge one of ur kind they have always said 'oh I never noticed my dog was sh1tting all over the pavement so that other people can walk in it' but you also pull out the wheel chair argument, I will be looking out for you too, in fact I'll tip you over into some of your dog's faeces...
Jack Frost of Birken-Vegas. You've well and truly missed the point sonny jim! I hate dog-turd leavers myself! You can say 'sh**' if you want to you know, we're all adults!

A DOG HATER, WALLY WORLD says...
5:00pm Sat 26 Jan 08

i think that you should line up all living dogs and shoot them at close range with a machine gun.....

Jack Frost, birkenhead says...
8:13pm Sun 27 Jan 08

Lee Boulton, I travelled along the wirral coast line today and never seen a dog walker in a wheel chair...

however the dog crap has almost disappeared, so well done for cleaning up your mess.

Except for one mound which would have required a couple of bin liners and a shovel to remove safely, and the owner would have probably have been riding the hound anyway.

Ragnar, Brandenburg-Preussen . says...
8:26am Tue 29 Jan 08

by: Joan Cleater-Nickson, wallasey
I have have a large standard poodle called Dick, (he's better than a husband)


Whatever turns you on, darlin'

Got any photographs, you know , like PHOTOGRAPHS?

Jack Frost, wirral says...
2:55pm Tue 29 Jan 08

Hey Mr Meister guy... see how your swear words get asterisked out..?

This is not done by people who usually swear, but don't wish to offend others with their colourful expletives, no, not at all.

Its done by a machine which checks every word posted and if this word is on the list it gets replaced by **** (I actually wrote the f word there)

The reason for this is not because of your Utopian belief,admirable as it is, that I don't want to offend someone,

its because there are too many pr1ck5 who don't have much of a vocab' and really don't give a flying pig about anyones' sensibilities, except their own, which they'd have trouble finding in their toilet.

However, if I ever, ever see your dog 5h1tting on the beach I'd insist on covering it with sand, on the road tho' pick it and bin it.

Saffie, West Kirby says...
9:34pm Fri 1 Feb 08

Hi, All you doggy doo-dudes! There's enough doggy doo-doo in this neck of the woods to sink a ship, man, espeshly over Grange Hill. Next time I see one doin it, that dog will be airborne, man.

Mike, Egremont says...
12:00pm Mon 4 Feb 08

I've not long moved to this area but the first thing I noticed was the amount of dog sh1t all over the place!! I just hope there is some justice in the world and offenders also stand in it and tread it through their house and it's not just the innocent and responsible owners like me that get stung!

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

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