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New laws could close bus service

8:55am Wednesday 3rd October 2007

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SPECIALISED bus services for schoo-lchildren with special needs are facing the axe.

Private operators who provide the service under contract to the council say new legislation will almost certainly force them out of business.

EA Beck Specialist Transport Services is one of five Wirral companies whose current council contracts will end unless all of their drivers are licensed as taxi drivers.

In order to qualify, all drivers will have to take a knowledge test and each vehicle would have to be maintained and re-registered for £500 every year. Everyone applying for jobs will be subject to rigorous police checks.

It is all part of a Government drive to improve public safety across the country.

But Edward Beck, owner of the Hoylake-based company, fears that the new legislation will mean he has to close the business with the loss of more than 60 jobs.

He told the Globe: "I've said that I'll shut the doors in January and I'm prepared to do that, because this law would cost me an extra £30,000 a year to run and I cannot afford this. It's a money-making exercise for the council.

"At the moment we have 55 contracts with the council and they have admitted that they cannot survive without the service we provide.

All the vehicles are purpose-built for children, with space for wheelchairs.

"We don't do taxi work, all we do is school runs and so it's only part-time work. So once this law becomes effective, our staff could go off and do taxi work for more money. It's going to be devastating.

"I'll have a big yellow sticker on the side of all my vehicles which reads School Bus only if it helps us get the message across."

The change in the law will also affect A2B Travel in Prenton, Destinations Travel in Bebington, Playa Travel and C&P Travel.

Parents have reacted angrily to the new regulations, writing to Wirral's licensing department in protest at what will be the loss of a valuable children's service.

Hoylake Conservative councillor John Hale said: "I'm trying to find out how much of this change has been brought in as an act of Parliament and how much of it are policies brought in by Wirral's licensing department.

"Mr Beck's is the biggest company involved, but I really sympathise with all those companies affected by this, because it seems that that they are being badly hit."

Wirral Council cabinet member for children's services and Lifelong Learning Cllr Phil Davies said: "Following changes in Government legislation, from January 2008 vehicles that are currently exempt from licensing due to the fact that they are engaged on contracts lasting at least seven days, will have to be licensed.

"In the run up to that time, the council has been and will strive to continue to work with the special needs transport providers here in Wirral - who fall into this category - to ensure that the current workforce meet the new requirements."


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Dave Rimmer, Wallasey says...
9:21am Wed 3 Oct 07

Whilst I agree that the the removal of the micselanious local government act which allows vehicles of under 8 passenger seats under certain conditions to operate without any controlled licensing will affect numerous operators, Mr Beck has for far to many years been allowed to operate under this "loophole" without any licensing and maintenance control from the authorities. This situation allowed him to compete on an un-level playing field but now he does not like that playing field being levelled. Sorry Mr Beck the chickens have come home to roost.

Dave Rimmer, Wallasey says...
12:12pm Wed 3 Oct 07

Incidentally,just some clarification, this is not new legislation at all but the removal of a loophole in "The Local Government Miscelaneous Act"

John Charlton, Wallasey says...
5:46pm Wed 3 Oct 07

Absolutely spot on Dave. About time the balance was addressed.Eddie Beck has had a good run. John.

CathyH, Birkenhead says...
11:24pm Wed 3 Oct 07

While I can't comment on this exact piece of legislation, I do feel that EA Beck Transport do an excellent job. My brother attended special schools in Wallasey and Woodchurch, and we were always very pleased with the considerate, down-to-earth attitude of the drivers and escorts and the reliablity of the service they provide. It is difficult to think how we would have coped without it.

Anon, Wirral says...
1:00pm Thu 4 Oct 07

The legislation has come from central government and not from WBC. It will affect many operators across the country not just here in Wirral. These contracts will now have to be operated under Licensed Private Hire (Taxi) regs or if using larger buses (more than 8 seats) under PSV (Bus) regs. Is this a bad thing? If I may quote from the original Globe article "...and each vehicle would have to be maintained and re-registered for £500 every year. Everyone applying for jobs will be subject to rigorous police checks..." is this suggesting that buses are not being maintained at present?? As for the issue of Police checks; it is already a reqirement for drivers engaged on home to school transport that they have a CRB check, and in fairness to WBC drivers are NOT asked to pay for this check. With regards to changing the taxation class of a vehicle; DVLA do NOT charge for this..so where has the figure of £500 come from? If I may again quote from the article..."We don't do taxi work, all we do is school runs and so it's only part-time work..." Again not quite correct; apart from "school runs" Mr Becks` company is engaged on very lucrative private hire work for the NHS at Arrowe Park and Clatterbridge Hospitals...
If anything good comes out of this change of legislation it will be an increase in the daily rates obtained for operating home to school contracts. My advice to Mr Beck is enter the real commercial world, comply with the new legislation and pass on the cost to your customers be it the NHS or WBC..and they in turn can pass it on to Central Government...
There are a lot of companies on the Wirral who have operated these contracts under the PSV or Private Hire regs and have had to bear the costs of compliance. Contracts are awarded on the basis of cost. Mr Beck has 55 Contracts? Maybe he has an unfair advantage over other operators in that he does not currently have to run under PSV/Private hire regs?
I am inclined to agree with the previous correspondant: "level playing field"

Dave Rimmer, Wallasey says...
1:38pm Thu 4 Oct 07

Anon....I think what Mr Beck is refering to in the £500 remark is getting his drivers and vehicles a private hire license. However he would have a problem in that direction as I doubt very much if MBW would license vehicles over 8 years old so his only option would be a PCV `O` license, something he has avoided over the years. This removal of the Miscelaneous Local Government Act has been known about for about 8 months or so, so he has had plenty of time to gear up for the change. I am a strong critic of MBW but on this occasion this change has been forced upon them by Central Government. It must be causing their transport and taxi licensing departments tremendous headaches.

Anon, Wirral says...
11:05pm Thu 4 Oct 07

..in reply to Dave Rimmer. There is NO option to run a fleet of 8 seaters under a PSV 'O' Licence as the Traffic Commissioners will not allow this; they will only allow 'O' Licence discs to be used on vehicles with MORE THAN 8 seats.The rules state that no more than 10% of a PSV fleet can be 8 seaters…the rules are that vehicles up to and including 8 seats must be licensed by the local authority as Taxis (either Private Hire or Hackney) The 10% derogation is for instances of a larger company wanting to run one 8 seater to move drivers around for example. Of course larger buses could be used ie 12 seaters but then there is the issue of Drivers’ licences; Drivers would need to have a class 1 PSV licence (or PCV as it is now)….There is no easy or cheap way to comply with this new legislation…but it is only right that it is complied with..for too long now there have been unlicenced stretch limos (impossible to licence as a Taxi or a PSV) and more recently Fire Engines used as limos. These new rules were brought in partly in response to these problems but it means that it is also now necessary to licence 8 seaters as SOMETHING, either Taxi or Bus...what is wrong with that?

Dave Rimmer, Wallasey says...
12:20am Fri 5 Oct 07

Anon...as I understand it you can run under 8 seater vehicles on an "O" licence providing the number does not exceed 10% of the larger PCV fleet. My mistake in the above post is forgetting that Beck does not operate any larger PCV`s apart from a couple run on a restricted "O" license. So indeed you are quite correct he would not be allowed an "O" licence anyway.
Just bear in mind though, this is not new legislation it is purely the removal of I think section 74 or 76 of the Local Government Miscellaneous Act of 1976 so on this occasion MBW cannot be blamed for trying to rip operators for extra money as has been suggested. I do have to say however it is totally ludicrous that an operation such as Becks needs Taxi licensing (including drivers taking "the knowledge" I think even the taxi licencing officers think its ridiculous...however national government have plugged the loophole without thinking about the consequences which is somewhat typical as it will certainly put some transport companies out of business and leave social services and LEA`s extremely short of suitable operators

Anon, Wirral says...
12:54am Fri 5 Oct 07

..WBC are indeed blameless in all this; their hands are tied in that they have to implement these changes from Central Government. It certainly isnt a " money-making exercise for the council " as Mr Beck implies. If some operators fall by the wayside and there is not sufficient capacity in the private sector then WBC will be forced to make up the shortfall using its own vehicles and staff as they have a legal obligation to provide this home to school transport.

a mother, wirral says...
10:54am Fri 5 Oct 07

the post above said wbc will be forced to make up the shortfall using its own vehicles
does it have enough vehicles and drivers to provide this home to school transport if not how will the children get to and from school

Dave Rimmer, Wallasey says...
2:01pm Fri 5 Oct 07

mother....that indeed is a very good question. MBW transport sections have been reducing for years now as it is more cost effective to use outside contractors....hence the rapid growth of Eddy Beck and others.
I agree with anon that MBW have a legal duty to provide school transport for certain categories of students and in particular disabled.
However they have been looking at withdrawing transport from disabled people that receive mobility allowance and I have to agree that there is a good argument for this action. However they answer to your question ,a mother, will be answered in January when I believe chaos will decend and action of some sorts will have to be taken.
There is another potential problem on the horizon for 08/09 and that is the requirement for PCV drivers to hold what is known as a Certificate of Competence. I cannot see the older guys and gals who hold a PCV license and are driving the daily school runs, applying for their CPC and therefor they will drop out of the drivers market...hence even if the operators have the necessary vehicle license they will not be able to find CPC/PCV drivers. Even more chaos!

Bart, Wirral says...
8:40pm Mon 8 Oct 07

All Drivers Have To Have An Enhanced CRB Check Which Is Renewable Every 3 Years. I Think The Only Way Forward Is To Issue Special Drivers School Permits. This Way The Council Would Be Able To Control These Vehicles. They Should Be Allowed To Run As School Only Permits With Each Driver Having A Council Issued ID Badge Renewable Every 12 Months. I Agree With The Age Limit Regarding The Vehicles But Taxi Drivers These School Bus Drivers Are Certainly Not.

Anon, Wirral says...
10:36pm Tue 9 Oct 07

I really feel sorry for Mr Beck,fancy having to complete with everyone else that has licensed his/her vehicle and themselves at considerable cost.Beck further staes he only carries special needs children, funny I keep seing his vehilces at Arrowe and Clatterbridge hospitals picking up passengers.Then that opens up an other can of worms,what about the ambulance hospital service run by people in unlicensed private
cars, yet receiving a payment??

Steve, TYNE AND WEAR says...
6:35pm Mon 22 Oct 07

Well at last...
All people transporting kids/ special needs should be vetted / CRB checked and also be licenced with further checks..If it was your kids on the bus ! I would want to know the driver was 100% right..
We as TAxi drivers have been CRB checked and licenced to also do contract work..GREAT MOVE keep all us in the same boat..NICE 1, about bloody time

John Davies, NW says...
2:54pm Thu 25 Oct 07

The legislative changes mentioned in the article, namely section 75 1 b of the 1976 Local Government Miscellaneous Provisions act is designed to safeguard against persons and vehicles operating unlicensed.

The changes close a loophole in existing legislation that has unfortunately allowed unchecked and unlicensed vehicles and drivers to carry passengers for hire or reward for many, many years.

The closure of the loophole will mean that every driver operating a vehicle for hire or reward under private hire or hackney carriage legislation will need to submit themselves and the vehicle they operate to the local licensing authority for clearance as a fit and proper person to carry members of the general public.

I question the figure of thirty thousand pounds which has been banded about in respect of additional running costs. Each driver bears their own cost of licensing. The only additional cost borne by the proprietor is the annual vehicle inspection and license fee, this will normally amount to perhaps no more than two hundred pounds per vehicle?

The whole point of removing this loophole is for public safety and if any reader is in any doubt as to why it is necessary, then all they need do visit the website of Taxi driver online to understand why?

John Davies

Amazed, London says...
3:23am Sat 27 Oct 07

What most ppl are missing here is that even Ambulances are going to have to be licensed.Local authourities CANNOT use their own vehicles unless they comply with exactly the same rules as everyone else. Licensed vehicle, badged driver etc, which i think you,ll find will be far too expensive!!!

There is always ofcourse Section 19 which could be adopted!

It seems pressure was brought upon the PCO ,DFT etc by certain taxi federations and associations (which there seem to be many of) to close this section 75, one has to wonder if maybe they have an ulteria motive, obviously they need more L.A contracts as they dont earn enough already.

Between these federations and the EU things can only get worse.

Thatcher was a kindly old lady compared to this lot!!!!!

Paul, Birmingham says...
4:29am Sun 28 Oct 07

The only additional cost borne by the proprietor is the annual vehicle inspection and license fee, this will normally amount to perhaps no more than two hundred pounds per vehicle?


Quoted by the Infamous John Davies (made up name)why do you bother to quote such rubbish Mr anonymous, put your real name instead of an alias for starters.

£1300 per vehicle in Birmingham.

How knowledgable you are!

No wonder you dont use your real name.!

Dave Rimmer, Wallasey says...
2:17pm Sun 28 Oct 07

Amazed, London....Section 19 permits cannot be used for vehicles of under 8 passenger seat capacity (not yet anyhow, maybe in the near future with representation from the CTA)

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