Sad end for Wirral warship

HMS Plymouth

HMS Plymouth

First published in News by , Geoff Barnes

HMS Plymouth, once the proud centre-piece of Wirral’s historic warships display, is facing an ignominious end.

The warship, on which Argentina acknowledged defeat in the Falkland War, will leave Merseyside this month for a Turkish scrapyard, where it will be “recycled.”

Peel Ports, which owns the dock, confirmed the frigate’s fate. The vessel has languished in Birkenhead’s East Float Dock for the past two years since HMS Plymouth Association conceded that nothing more could be done to save her.

A spokesman for Peel said today: "We can confirm that HMS Plymouth will leave Birkenhead Docks and the River Mersey this month and will be recycled in accordance with statutory and regulatory permits associated with her transit and recycling programme."

The Type 12 frigate – the last in her class – secured a place in history at the end of the Falkland War when the Argentine war lords signed the surrender documents in the wardroom.

After the war HMS Plymouth was saved by the Warship Preservation Trust. In the early 1990s she was moved to the East Float Dock.

The dock was transformed into the historic warship exhibition under a partnership with Wirral Council.

The Trust went into voluntary liquidation some years later and the exhibition closed.

At the time HMS Plymouth Association secretary Martine Salter acknowledged that the ship was over 50 years old and lacked the technology used by modern warships.

Peel Ports signed a deconstruction contract with a specialist company from Turkey in 2012.

When the deal was announced Peel said it was seeking an export certificate from the Environment Agency and any artefacts on board the vessel would be removed ahead of her final voyage.

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1:19pm Mon 18 Aug 14

WirralAl says...

Proud of history?
U Boat persevered,
WWII land craft sunk in Birkenhead Docks,
HMS Plymouth scrapped.
Royal Iris sunk on the Thames
Well done good Job Peel.
Proud of history? U Boat persevered, WWII land craft sunk in Birkenhead Docks, HMS Plymouth scrapped. Royal Iris sunk on the Thames Well done good Job Peel. WirralAl
  • Score: 31

3:58pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

How can Peel be to blame?
How can Peel be to blame? Positive thinker
  • Score: -14

4:27pm Mon 18 Aug 14

WirralAl says...

Positive thinker wrote:
How can Peel be to blame?
Historical Warships managed the vessel. Peel moved them on as they own the docks.
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: How can Peel be to blame?[/p][/quote]Historical Warships managed the vessel. Peel moved them on as they own the docks. WirralAl
  • Score: 13

4:40pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Alan neale says...

The trust are trying to to stop this in court, they have documents that prove peel do not own HMS Plymouth, see there FB PAGE-save hms Plymouth
The trust are trying to to stop this in court, they have documents that prove peel do not own HMS Plymouth, see there FB PAGE-save hms Plymouth Alan neale
  • Score: 11

6:26pm Mon 18 Aug 14

marjack126 says...

Dear Geoff.

I should like to take issue with the following:-

1) My name is Martin Slater, not Martine Salter.

2) Your article states, “The Trust went into voluntary liquidation some years later and the exhibition closed.

At the time HMS Plymouth Association secretary Martine Salter acknowledged that the ship was over 50 years old and lacked the technology used by modern warships.”

This makes it appear that I said this at the time the Historic Warships closed and has been used completely out of context.

What I actually said, as reported BY YOU in the Wirral Globe of 1st October 2012 was,

“While the sentiments of HMS Plymouth Trust Ltd and their ambitions for what they wish to achieve for the cadets – possibly our future Navy – are more than honourable, we have to remember that at over 50 years old she has very little relevance to todays’ Navy. "She would not afford any great understanding to the cadets of the technology currently in use on board a modern warship.”

in which I was referring to the plan by HMS Plymouth Trust to take her to the North East as a cadet training facility.

I have no objection to my name and comments from previous articles being published by your paper, however I would be grateful if you could at least get my name right and use my quotes in context.

Regards,
Martin Slater,
Secretary HMS Plymouth Association.
Dear Geoff. I should like to take issue with the following:- 1) My name is Martin Slater, not Martine Salter. 2) Your article states, “The Trust went into voluntary liquidation some years later and the exhibition closed. At the time HMS Plymouth Association secretary Martine Salter acknowledged that the ship was over 50 years old and lacked the technology used by modern warships.” This makes it appear that I said this at the time the Historic Warships closed and has been used completely out of context. What I actually said, as reported BY YOU in the Wirral Globe of 1st October 2012 was, “While the sentiments of HMS Plymouth Trust Ltd and their ambitions for what they wish to achieve for the cadets – possibly our future Navy – are more than honourable, we have to remember that at over 50 years old she has very little relevance to todays’ Navy. "She would not afford any great understanding to the cadets of the technology currently in use on board a modern warship.” in which I was referring to the plan by HMS Plymouth Trust to take her to the North East as a cadet training facility. I have no objection to my name and comments from previous articles being published by your paper, however I would be grateful if you could at least get my name right and use my quotes in context. Regards, Martin Slater, Secretary HMS Plymouth Association. marjack126
  • Score: 16

10:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

sandals_wearer says...

Argentine "war lords"??
Argentine "war lords"?? sandals_wearer
  • Score: -5

10:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

They probably wanted it free of charge
They probably wanted it free of charge Positive thinker
  • Score: -5

11:30pm Mon 18 Aug 14

nickclarke says...

Peel Ports do not own HMS Plymouth, and should be prosecuted for selling her. It was Peel Holdings that brought about the demise of the Historic Warships. They are nothing but a bunch of money grabbing crooks. They should also be brought to book for leaving piles of chemicals lying out in the open. However, nothing will be done as they 'own' Wirral Council, who are absolutely terrified of upsetting them (Peel)
Peel Ports do not own HMS Plymouth, and should be prosecuted for selling her. It was Peel Holdings that brought about the demise of the Historic Warships. They are nothing but a bunch of money grabbing crooks. They should also be brought to book for leaving piles of chemicals lying out in the open. However, nothing will be done as they 'own' Wirral Council, who are absolutely terrified of upsetting them (Peel) nickclarke
  • Score: 14

9:01am Tue 19 Aug 14

PaulCa says...

Senior persons at Peel and Wirral Council are basically the lowest form of sniveling turncoats and cowards.

Here's where you will NEVER see them:

o Anywhere there's a need for honest brokering
o Anywhere there's no ready cash to be grubbed
o Anywhere there are bullets flying
Senior persons at Peel and Wirral Council are basically the lowest form of sniveling turncoats and cowards. Here's where you will NEVER see them: o Anywhere there's a need for honest brokering o Anywhere there's no ready cash to be grubbed o Anywhere there are bullets flying PaulCa
  • Score: 7

10:08am Tue 19 Aug 14

nickclarke says...

Over £3300 raised OVERNIGHT! This is toward the £5000 needed by this afternoon to pay a Barrister to put the case before the Admiralty Court in Plymouth. They will then prevent the ship from being moved pending a full hearing. Donate at http://www.hmsplymou
thtrust.co.uk
Over £3300 raised OVERNIGHT! This is toward the £5000 needed by this afternoon to pay a Barrister to put the case before the Admiralty Court in Plymouth. They will then prevent the ship from being moved pending a full hearing. Donate at http://www.hmsplymou thtrust.co.uk nickclarke
  • Score: 10

12:31pm Tue 19 Aug 14

marjack126 says...

One other thing Geoff.

It was not where Argentina acknowledged defeat in the Falklands War but where the forces on South Georgia signed their surrender.

Martin Slater,
Secretary HMS Plymouth Association.
One other thing Geoff. It was not where Argentina acknowledged defeat in the Falklands War but where the forces on South Georgia signed their surrender. Martin Slater, Secretary HMS Plymouth Association. marjack126
  • Score: 5

3:15pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Nigrette says...

SAVE THE SHIP!
SAVE THE SHIP! Nigrette
  • Score: 9

6:56pm Tue 19 Aug 14

nickclarke says...

Target Reached, £5000 raised in 24 hours, there is hope yet that Whittaker can be stopped in his tracks.....
Target Reached, £5000 raised in 24 hours, there is hope yet that Whittaker can be stopped in his tracks..... nickclarke
  • Score: 1

7:55pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Am I missing the point,Peel own the dock not the warship,so how
are they to blame for anything?
Am I missing the point,Peel own the dock not the warship,so how are they to blame for anything? Positive thinker
  • Score: -4

12:56pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Sargon says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Am I missing the point,Peel own the dock not the warship,so how
are they to blame for anything?
You are missing the point. Peel do, indeed, own the dock and not the ship - but it is PEEL who are trying to scrap the ship (and presumably take the money).
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Am I missing the point,Peel own the dock not the warship,so how are they to blame for anything?[/p][/quote]You are missing the point. Peel do, indeed, own the dock and not the ship - but it is PEEL who are trying to scrap the ship (and presumably take the money). Sargon
  • Score: 2

2:19pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Take the money because they are owed it maybe
Take the money because they are owed it maybe Positive thinker
  • Score: 1

5:22pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Nigrette says...

Sargon wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Am I missing the point,Peel own the dock not the warship,so how
are they to blame for anything?
You are missing the point. Peel do, indeed, own the dock and not the ship - but it is PEEL who are trying to scrap the ship (and presumably take the money).
THE SHIP OWNERS PROBABLY AND MORE THAN LIKELY OWE PEEL RENT MONEY SO THEY ARE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS!!!
[quote][p][bold]Sargon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Am I missing the point,Peel own the dock not the warship,so how are they to blame for anything?[/p][/quote]You are missing the point. Peel do, indeed, own the dock and not the ship - but it is PEEL who are trying to scrap the ship (and presumably take the money).[/p][/quote]THE SHIP OWNERS PROBABLY AND MORE THAN LIKELY OWE PEEL RENT MONEY SO THEY ARE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS!!! Nigrette
  • Score: -3

8:02pm Fri 22 Aug 14

dave301bounty says...

Save the ship ,,if you can . its British ,so it dosent matter ,the u boat gets top billing ,and that,s as scrap .,no you don't have to look very far to see the absolute corruption that exists on /in the land ,and who is really in charge ,,mere SERFS that's all ,just keep us humoured ,but don't upset them ,,these words were said at a meeting ,very sad day for shipping ..
Save the ship ,,if you can . its British ,so it dosent matter ,the u boat gets top billing ,and that,s as scrap .,no you don't have to look very far to see the absolute corruption that exists on /in the land ,and who is really in charge ,,mere SERFS that's all ,just keep us humoured ,but don't upset them ,,these words were said at a meeting ,very sad day for shipping .. dave301bounty
  • Score: 2
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