Controversial circus extends stay in Wirral after 'explosion' of visitors

One of the lions which performs at Peter Jolly’s Circus, one of only two in England that still uses live animals in the ring

One of the lions which performs at Peter Jolly’s Circus, one of only two in England that still uses live animals in the ring

First published in News Wirral Globe: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

A TRAVELLING circus at the centre of an animal rights storm in Wirral has extended its stay after what staff described as an “explosion” of visitors.

Peter Jolly’s Traditional Circus pitched up in Upton on July 23 for a series of shows featuring lions and tigers.

Protests have been held outside the showground in Saughall Massie Road and social networking sites flooded with angry comments.

Despite this, Anthony Beckwith – speaking on behalf of circus owner Peter Jolly – told the Globe they have been “turning people away”, prompting them to extend their run until Sunday, August 10.

As well as being at the centre of a heated debate over the use of live animals, the circus is currently being investigated by Wirral Council after concerns were raised about its licences.

A spokesman for the authority said: “Following discussions with Peter Jolly’s Circus and an inspection earlier this week, the council is investigating matters relating to it not having the required authorisation in place for regulated entertainment.

“Recorded music can only take place with an authorisation from the Licensing Authority. The exception to this is if the recorded music is incidental to other activities taking place which do not require authorisation. Investigations into the matter are ongoing.”

The Globe contacted the circus on Friday who denied they were operating without all of the required licences.

Mr Beckwith said: “We are members of the Showmen’s Guild of Great Britain and they pay for all of our music licences.

“The council came out to see us this week and they went away happy – we have all of the licences required.”

While Mr Beckwith said the circus has been sold out on a number of performances, its time in Wirral has not been without incident.

Campaigners protesting against the use of animals have been turning up at the site on a daily basis with placards before shows.

Police were called to the showground on July 23 following reports that a hooded man had climbed the fence and was abusing staff.

While patrols have been stepped up in the area while the circus remains in town, a spokesman for the force said they have not been called to any “serious or critical” incidents involving the venue.

Last week, the circus defended its use of animals in its performances and said: “We don’t have animals from the wild, they are all bred within the industry. Our lions are British-born from several generations.

“If the lions didn’t receive full care we would not be able to have them in the show.

“There are people who have genuine concerns about how the animals are treated and we have an open-door policy to help calm their fears.”


 

 

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4:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Spot on
Spot on Positive thinker
  • Score: -7

5:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Spot on
Spot on Positive thinker
  • Score: -7

5:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Rudebox says...

Just go away you vile people.
Just go away you vile people. Rudebox
  • Score: 2

6:05pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Dosnt look like there away to soon
Dosnt look like there away to soon Positive thinker
  • Score: 0

7:14pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Rudebox says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Dosnt look like there away to soon
Probably got nowhere else to go..... no other councils will have them.
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Dosnt look like there away to soon[/p][/quote]Probably got nowhere else to go..... no other councils will have them. Rudebox
  • Score: 3

7:57pm Fri 1 Aug 14

smabo says...

This council doesn't want them! Unfortunately the circus is on private land and is licensed by the government so there's nothing they can do except keep the pressure on with the stuff the council can get them on, such as entertainment licence etc
This council doesn't want them! Unfortunately the circus is on private land and is licensed by the government so there's nothing they can do except keep the pressure on with the stuff the council can get them on, such as entertainment licence etc smabo
  • Score: 8

9:07pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

There's a nice big piece of land on wallasey docks,which there's a fair on at present maybe they could go there next and give the people of wallasey
a circus to go to,as for the presure and protest you lot couldn't disturb a kids tea party
There's a nice big piece of land on wallasey docks,which there's a fair on at present maybe they could go there next and give the people of wallasey a circus to go to,as for the presure and protest you lot couldn't disturb a kids tea party Positive thinker
  • Score: -13

9:45pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Skillo says...

Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.
Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do. Skillo
  • Score: -4

1:03am Sat 2 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

i have been there protesting everyday out all of the time they have been there they have had nearly a full car park twice the rest of the days there has been around 10 cars and the staff are very abusive towards us but you dont put that in the paper
i have been there protesting everyday out all of the time they have been there they have had nearly a full car park twice the rest of the days there has been around 10 cars and the staff are very abusive towards us but you dont put that in the paper unknown1992
  • Score: 10

7:38am Sat 2 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Unknown 1992,you need to get a full time job to be there for that lenght
of time isn't normal,if your to old for a job maybe some voluntary work or
even a hobby
Unknown 1992,you need to get a full time job to be there for that lenght of time isn't normal,if your to old for a job maybe some voluntary work or even a hobby Positive thinker
  • Score: -8

8:35am Sat 2 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Miscott,
Don't start me of,I can't abide by these idiots,it's none of there Buisness it would appear they protest for the sake of protesting,if it was down to me
I would let the Lions out
Miscott, Don't start me of,I can't abide by these idiots,it's none of there Buisness it would appear they protest for the sake of protesting,if it was down to me I would let the Lions out Positive thinker
  • Score: -5

9:45pm Sat 2 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Skillo wrote:
Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.
We are talking WILD ANIMALS! Get your FACTS RIGHT
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.[/p][/quote]We are talking WILD ANIMALS! Get your FACTS RIGHT lilianc
  • Score: -3

9:47pm Sat 2 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Unknown 1992,you need to get a full time job to be there for that lenght
of time isn't normal,if your to old for a job maybe some voluntary work or
even a hobby
What we do in our SPARE TIME is . None of a
YOUR business!
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Unknown 1992,you need to get a full time job to be there for that lenght of time isn't normal,if your to old for a job maybe some voluntary work or even a hobby[/p][/quote]What we do in our SPARE TIME is . None of a YOUR business! lilianc
  • Score: -1

9:54pm Sat 2 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Emma Rigby....
.thanks for coming to interview the protesters! And by the way most of the comments on here PRO Circus are from the Circus staff!
Emma Rigby.... .thanks for coming to interview the protesters! And by the way most of the comments on here PRO Circus are from the Circus staff! lilianc
  • Score: 3

9:56pm Sat 2 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Miscott,
Don't start me of,I can't abide by these idiots,it's none of there Buisness it would appear they protest for the sake of protesting,if it was down to me
I would let the Lions out
It is OUR Business! We have Every right to be there!
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Miscott, Don't start me of,I can't abide by these idiots,it's none of there Buisness it would appear they protest for the sake of protesting,if it was down to me I would let the Lions out[/p][/quote]It is OUR Business! We have Every right to be there! lilianc
  • Score: 0

7:06am Sun 3 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is Positive thinker
  • Score: 1

11:00am Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer! lilianc
  • Score: 2

4:18pm Sun 3 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates unknown1992
  • Score: 2

4:43pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Skillo says...

lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.
We are talking WILD ANIMALS! Get your FACTS RIGHT
Chester zoo, knowsley safari park ? I seem to remember there being wild animals for the publics entertainment there.
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.[/p][/quote]We are talking WILD ANIMALS! Get your FACTS RIGHT[/p][/quote]Chester zoo, knowsley safari park ? I seem to remember there being wild animals for the publics entertainment there. Skillo
  • Score: -5

4:51pm Sun 3 Aug 14

littlestar84 says...

Would like to see some proof that these travellers are paying taxes.
Would like to see some proof that these travellers are paying taxes. littlestar84
  • Score: 7

4:51pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Skillo says...

unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.
[quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny. Skillo
  • Score: 0

4:54pm Sun 3 Aug 14

littlestar84 says...

Also huge difference between zoos and safari parks (although I attend neither) where the animals are free to roam in large areas. Circus animals are forced to do tricks, they are beaten, they are kept in tiny cages and transported around the country on small lorries. Just google this family: Mary Chipperfield. Funny how they have changed the name to Peter Jolly after Mary ruined the family name for being prosecuted for abusing animals. Backwards people go to circuses, the type who go abroad and have their pictures taken with monkeys on chains. Slow people.
Also huge difference between zoos and safari parks (although I attend neither) where the animals are free to roam in large areas. Circus animals are forced to do tricks, they are beaten, they are kept in tiny cages and transported around the country on small lorries. Just google this family: Mary Chipperfield. Funny how they have changed the name to Peter Jolly after Mary ruined the family name for being prosecuted for abusing animals. Backwards people go to circuses, the type who go abroad and have their pictures taken with monkeys on chains. Slow people. littlestar84
  • Score: 6

5:41pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Rudebox says...

You only have to look on the facebook pages relating to the Circus. There are members of those pages linking all of The Globe stories and asking others of their kind to vote down anti-circus comments and to vote no in The Globe poll.
You only have to look on the facebook pages relating to the Circus. There are members of those pages linking all of The Globe stories and asking others of their kind to vote down anti-circus comments and to vote no in The Globe poll. Rudebox
  • Score: 5

5:53pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Rudebox says...

Rudebox wrote:
You only have to look on the facebook pages relating to the Circus. There are members of those pages linking all of The Globe stories and asking others of their kind to vote down anti-circus comments and to vote no in The Globe poll.
https://www.facebook
.com/groups/14271464
57525574/

Second post down :)
[quote][p][bold]Rudebox[/bold] wrote: You only have to look on the facebook pages relating to the Circus. There are members of those pages linking all of The Globe stories and asking others of their kind to vote down anti-circus comments and to vote no in The Globe poll.[/p][/quote]https://www.facebook .com/groups/14271464 57525574/ Second post down :) Rudebox
  • Score: 1

5:54pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.
come visit us and tell me that to my face!
ill be there next week.....
.i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus.....
and i havent said you are in Fear!.......
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.[/p][/quote]come visit us and tell me that to my face! ill be there next week..... .i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus..... and i havent said you are in Fear!....... lilianc
  • Score: -2

5:56pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Skillo says...

littlestar84 wrote:
Also huge difference between zoos and safari parks (although I attend neither) where the animals are free to roam in large areas. Circus animals are forced to do tricks, they are beaten, they are kept in tiny cages and transported around the country on small lorries. Just google this family: Mary Chipperfield. Funny how they have changed the name to Peter Jolly after Mary ruined the family name for being prosecuted for abusing animals. Backwards people go to circuses, the type who go abroad and have their pictures taken with monkeys on chains. Slow people.
Large areas, like the elephant area at Chester zoo? Backward people and slow people? Showing your true colours now people that dont agree with you are slow and backwards. I guess the reason they extended the shows was because the wirral is full of slow and backward people.
[quote][p][bold]littlestar84[/bold] wrote: Also huge difference between zoos and safari parks (although I attend neither) where the animals are free to roam in large areas. Circus animals are forced to do tricks, they are beaten, they are kept in tiny cages and transported around the country on small lorries. Just google this family: Mary Chipperfield. Funny how they have changed the name to Peter Jolly after Mary ruined the family name for being prosecuted for abusing animals. Backwards people go to circuses, the type who go abroad and have their pictures taken with monkeys on chains. Slow people.[/p][/quote]Large areas, like the elephant area at Chester zoo? Backward people and slow people? Showing your true colours now people that dont agree with you are slow and backwards. I guess the reason they extended the shows was because the wirral is full of slow and backward people. Skillo
  • Score: -1

5:59pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Skillo says...

lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.
come visit us and tell me that to my face!
ill be there next week.....
.i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus.....
and i havent said you are in Fear!.......
Ooh ya starting ok ill be up
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.[/p][/quote]come visit us and tell me that to my face! ill be there next week..... .i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus..... and i havent said you are in Fear!.......[/p][/quote]Ooh ya starting ok ill be up Skillo
  • Score: 2

6:20pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Skillo says...

Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.
come visit us and tell me that to my face!
ill be there next week.....
.i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus.....
and i havent said you are in Fear!.......
Ooh ya starting ok ill be up
Just promise me you wont burst into song, singing come by are my lord and, say no to drugs. We can all have a frolick in the meadows and thank the trees for their oxygen. Oh it will be super ;)
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.[/p][/quote]come visit us and tell me that to my face! ill be there next week..... .i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus..... and i havent said you are in Fear!.......[/p][/quote]Ooh ya starting ok ill be up[/p][/quote]Just promise me you wont burst into song, singing come by are my lord and, say no to drugs. We can all have a frolick in the meadows and thank the trees for their oxygen. Oh it will be super ;) Skillo
  • Score: 0

7:23pm Sun 3 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

Skillo wrote:
Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.
come visit us and tell me that to my face!
ill be there next week.....
.i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus.....
and i havent said you are in Fear!.......
Ooh ya starting ok ill be up
Just promise me you wont burst into song, singing come by are my lord and, say no to drugs. We can all have a frolick in the meadows and thank the trees for their oxygen. Oh it will be super ;)
no we wont be bursting into any songs
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.[/p][/quote]come visit us and tell me that to my face! ill be there next week..... .i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus..... and i havent said you are in Fear!.......[/p][/quote]Ooh ya starting ok ill be up[/p][/quote]Just promise me you wont burst into song, singing come by are my lord and, say no to drugs. We can all have a frolick in the meadows and thank the trees for their oxygen. Oh it will be super ;)[/p][/quote]no we wont be bursting into any songs unknown1992
  • Score: 0

7:43pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Skillo says...

Skillo wrote:
Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.
come visit us and tell me that to my face!
ill be there next week.....
.i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus.....
and i havent said you are in Fear!.......
Ooh ya starting ok ill be up
Just promise me you wont burst into song, singing come by are my lord and, say no to drugs. We can all have a frolick in the meadows and thank the trees for their oxygen. Oh it will be super ;)
Sorry that was uncalled for, i do appreciate where you are coming from.
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.[/p][/quote]come visit us and tell me that to my face! ill be there next week..... .i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus..... and i havent said you are in Fear!.......[/p][/quote]Ooh ya starting ok ill be up[/p][/quote]Just promise me you wont burst into song, singing come by are my lord and, say no to drugs. We can all have a frolick in the meadows and thank the trees for their oxygen. Oh it will be super ;)[/p][/quote]Sorry that was uncalled for, i do appreciate where you are coming from. Skillo
  • Score: 0

9:12pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds
tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS
Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS Positive thinker
  • Score: -6

10:11pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Skillo wrote:
Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.
get a grip !
the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS!
the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible!
i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated!

do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare!
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.[/p][/quote]get a grip ! the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS! the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible! i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated! do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare! lilianc
  • Score: 1

10:19pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

miscott38 wrote:
Positive thinker writes: -Unknown 1992,you need to get a full time job to be there for that lenght
of time isn't normal,if your to old for a job maybe some voluntary work or
even a hobby.

Well said! these so called do-gooders are a Leech on our society, providing the animals are well looked after and in this case would seem so, the Circus show to our young (and old) animals they may never see in their life time. Animals interacting with humans in my view is far more accepting than to see them sitting or lying behind screens/bars as if bored to tears.
JUST SO YOU KNOW! IVE BEEN in contact with a WORLD renown Authority on Big Cats welfare... they replied to me with this email....
''Thank you for your email with info about Jolley’s Circus.

The Government introduced a Circus Licensing Scheme which was temporarily put into place until the proposed Bill banning the use of wild animals in circuses in England was supposed to come into force from 1st December 2015. Currently the regulations require all operators of travelling circuses in England which use wild animals to be licensed. Licensed circuses are required to receive regular inspections to check compliance with welfare standards, so this will be the ‘certificates’ the circus worker you spoke to was referring to. We obviously don’t believe that the welfare of these animals can be provided for in a travelling circus environment, licensed or not.


www.bornfree.org.uk/
campaigns/zoo-check/
circuses-performing-
animals/circus-news/
article/?no_cache=1&
tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%
5D=1603.
Rest assured Born Free is continuing to do all we can to try and make sure that the ban comes into force.

Thank you for making a stand for animals in circuses and please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

Kind Regards,
Sarah Jefferson
Zoo Check Assistant
Born Free Foundation

Tel: +44 (0)1403 240 170
Email: sarahj@bornfree.org.
uk
Address: Born Free Foundation, 3 Grove House, Foundry Lane,
Horsham, West Sussex, RH13 5PL
[quote][p][bold]miscott38[/bold] wrote: Positive thinker writes: -Unknown 1992,you need to get a full time job to be there for that lenght of time isn't normal,if your to old for a job maybe some voluntary work or even a hobby. Well said! these so called do-gooders are a Leech on our society, providing the animals are well looked after and in this case would seem so, the Circus show to our young (and old) animals they may never see in their life time. Animals interacting with humans in my view is far more accepting than to see them sitting or lying behind screens/bars as if bored to tears.[/p][/quote]JUST SO YOU KNOW! IVE BEEN in contact with a WORLD renown Authority on Big Cats welfare... they replied to me with this email.... ''Thank you for your email with info about Jolley’s Circus. The Government introduced a Circus Licensing Scheme which was temporarily put into place until the proposed Bill banning the use of wild animals in circuses in England was supposed to come into force from 1st December 2015. Currently the regulations require all operators of travelling circuses in England which use wild animals to be licensed. Licensed circuses are required to receive regular inspections to check compliance with welfare standards, so this will be the ‘certificates’ the circus worker you spoke to was referring to. We obviously don’t believe that the welfare of these animals can be provided for in a travelling circus environment, licensed or not. www.bornfree.org.uk/ campaigns/zoo-check/ circuses-performing- animals/circus-news/ article/?no_cache=1& tx_ttnews%5Btt_news% 5D=1603. Rest assured Born Free is continuing to do all we can to try and make sure that the ban comes into force. Thank you for making a stand for animals in circuses and please don’t hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, Sarah Jefferson Zoo Check Assistant Born Free Foundation Tel: +44 (0)1403 240 170 Email: sarahj@bornfree.org. uk Address: Born Free Foundation, 3 Grove House, Foundry Lane, Horsham, West Sussex, RH13 5PL lilianc
  • Score: 4

10:22pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.
come visit us and tell me that to my face!
ill be there next week.....
.i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus.....
and i havent said you are in Fear!.......
Ooh ya starting ok ill be up
we'll be there Wednesday! cu then!
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.[/p][/quote]come visit us and tell me that to my face! ill be there next week..... .i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus..... and i havent said you are in Fear!.......[/p][/quote]Ooh ya starting ok ill be up[/p][/quote]we'll be there Wednesday! cu then! lilianc
  • Score: -1

10:25pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

unknown1992 wrote:
Skillo wrote:
Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.
come visit us and tell me that to my face!
ill be there next week.....
.i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus.....
and i havent said you are in Fear!.......
Ooh ya starting ok ill be up
Just promise me you wont burst into song, singing come by are my lord and, say no to drugs. We can all have a frolick in the meadows and thank the trees for their oxygen. Oh it will be super ;)
no we wont be bursting into any songs
see you on Wednesday!
[quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]I have nothing to do with the circus wallasey born and bred. Just because there are people who do not agree with you i find it funny you accuse everyone of working for the circus or friends with people that run it. As to sitting behind a keyboard in fear well that just made my day sooo funny.[/p][/quote]come visit us and tell me that to my face! ill be there next week..... .i havent accused EVERYONE of working to the Circus..... and i havent said you are in Fear!.......[/p][/quote]Ooh ya starting ok ill be up[/p][/quote]Just promise me you wont burst into song, singing come by are my lord and, say no to drugs. We can all have a frolick in the meadows and thank the trees for their oxygen. Oh it will be super ;)[/p][/quote]no we wont be bursting into any songs[/p][/quote]see you on Wednesday! lilianc
  • Score: 1

10:38pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds
tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS
we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party!

if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys!
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS[/p][/quote]we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party! if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys! lilianc
  • Score: 2

10:51pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Skillo says...

lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.
get a grip !
the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS!
the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible!
i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated!

do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare!
Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle?
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.[/p][/quote]get a grip ! the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS! the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible! i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated! do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare![/p][/quote]Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle? Skillo
  • Score: -3

10:59pm Sun 3 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds
tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS
we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party!

if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys!
i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS[/p][/quote]we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party! if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys![/p][/quote]i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past unknown1992
  • Score: -1

11:01pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.
get a grip !
the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS!
the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible!
i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated!

do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare!
Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle?
its hard to say ..... ive been treated for Cancer and still am being treated for its after effects ....at the time i didnt realize which drugs or had not been tested on animals .......
My Husband died of Brain Cancer.... again at the time we had no background information .....
i cannot answer......im being honest and i dont want to be drawn into a very emotive subject just yet
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.[/p][/quote]get a grip ! the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS! the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible! i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated! do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare![/p][/quote]Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle?[/p][/quote]its hard to say ..... ive been treated for Cancer and still am being treated for its after effects ....at the time i didnt realize which drugs or had not been tested on animals ....... My Husband died of Brain Cancer.... again at the time we had no background information ..... i cannot answer......im being honest and i dont want to be drawn into a very emotive subject just yet lilianc
  • Score: 0

11:01pm Sun 3 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds
tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS
because its a peaceful protest
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS[/p][/quote]because its a peaceful protest unknown1992
  • Score: 4

11:04pm Sun 3 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds
tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS
we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party!

if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys!
i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past
yes and if we were in the circus it would be alot better than the crap they do i cant wait for animals to be banned for use in a circus
[quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS[/p][/quote]we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party! if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys![/p][/quote]i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past[/p][/quote]yes and if we were in the circus it would be alot better than the crap they do i cant wait for animals to be banned for use in a circus unknown1992
  • Score: 4

11:05pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.
get a grip !
the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS!
the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible!
i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated!

do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare!
Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle?
its hard to say ..... ive been treated for Cancer and still am being treated for its after effects ....at the time i didnt realize which drugs or had not been tested on animals .......
My Husband died of Brain Cancer.... again at the time we had no background information .....
i cannot answer......im being honest and i dont want to be drawn into a very emotive subject just yet
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.[/p][/quote]get a grip ! the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS! the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible! i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated! do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare![/p][/quote]Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle?[/p][/quote]its hard to say ..... ive been treated for Cancer and still am being treated for its after effects ....at the time i didnt realize which drugs or had not been tested on animals ....... My Husband died of Brain Cancer.... again at the time we had no background information ..... i cannot answer......im being honest and i dont want to be drawn into a very emotive subject just yet lilianc
  • Score: 1

11:08pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds
tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS
we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party!

if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys!
i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past
i was there!
[quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS[/p][/quote]we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party! if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys![/p][/quote]i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past[/p][/quote]i was there! lilianc
  • Score: 2

11:09pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Skillo says...

lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.
get a grip !
the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS!
the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible!
i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated!

do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare!
Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle?
its hard to say ..... ive been treated for Cancer and still am being treated for its after effects ....at the time i didnt realize which drugs or had not been tested on animals .......
My Husband died of Brain Cancer.... again at the time we had no background information .....
i cannot answer......im being honest and i dont want to be drawn into a very emotive subject just yet
Sorry to hear about your husband and i hope you make a full recover.
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.[/p][/quote]get a grip ! the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS! the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible! i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated! do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare![/p][/quote]Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle?[/p][/quote]its hard to say ..... ive been treated for Cancer and still am being treated for its after effects ....at the time i didnt realize which drugs or had not been tested on animals ....... My Husband died of Brain Cancer.... again at the time we had no background information ..... i cannot answer......im being honest and i dont want to be drawn into a very emotive subject just yet[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear about your husband and i hope you make a full recover. Skillo
  • Score: 2

11:09pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds
tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS
we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party!

if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys!
i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past
i was there! you didnt come and say hello!
[quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS[/p][/quote]we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party! if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys![/p][/quote]i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past[/p][/quote]i was there! you didnt come and say hello! lilianc
  • Score: 0

11:11pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.
get a grip !
the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS!
the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible!
i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated!

do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare!
Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle?
its hard to say ..... ive been treated for Cancer and still am being treated for its after effects ....at the time i didnt realize which drugs or had not been tested on animals .......
My Husband died of Brain Cancer.... again at the time we had no background information .....
i cannot answer......im being honest and i dont want to be drawn into a very emotive subject just yet
Sorry to hear about your husband and i hope you make a full recover.
THANKYOU
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: Sick to death of hearing the tree hugging brigade moan and go on and on .. about this circus. Like many animals if they are not used for our enjoyment in zoos or horse racing ect they are used as beasts of burden like the horses that pull carriages in Blackpool. The question to ask with out a doubt is are they treated and cared for well. From what i hear the living and working conditions of the animals have satisfied the necessary requirements for the circus to gain a license. End of story. Considering you are so concerned with the welfare of animals, i do not remember many people protesting outside Chester zoo or the safari park. If you don't like the fact they use these animals DON'T GO and refrain from spoiling the fun of the people that do.[/p][/quote]get a grip ! the ZOO is COMMITTED to the WELFARE of its ANIMALS! the Zoo DOES NOT take them out of their cages and FORCE them to PERFORM for HUMANS ...... they are left in as near a Natural Habitat as possible! i Would NOT go to the races as i dont agree with the way horses are treated! do yourself a favour and get educated in Animal welfare![/p][/quote]Let me ask you this. If a drug that was tested on animals could save the life of your child would you deny your child it out of principle?[/p][/quote]its hard to say ..... ive been treated for Cancer and still am being treated for its after effects ....at the time i didnt realize which drugs or had not been tested on animals ....... My Husband died of Brain Cancer.... again at the time we had no background information ..... i cannot answer......im being honest and i dont want to be drawn into a very emotive subject just yet[/p][/quote]Sorry to hear about your husband and i hope you make a full recover.[/p][/quote]THANKYOU lilianc
  • Score: 2

11:13pm Sun 3 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

lilianc wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds
tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS
we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party!

if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys!
i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past
i was there! you didnt come and say hello!
didnt see anyone new there lilianc otherwise i would have sorry
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Went down there and had a look,they couldn't disrupt a 2 year olds tea party they should be in the circus themselves CLOWNS[/p][/quote]we wouldnt WANT to disrupt a 2yr olds Tea Party! if we were in the Circus it would be a lot better than Jolleys![/p][/quote]i bet u didnt come down not many people walked past[/p][/quote]i was there! you didnt come and say hello![/p][/quote]didnt see anyone new there lilianc otherwise i would have sorry unknown1992
  • Score: 0

11:36pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Skillo says...

unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species.
From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals.
[quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species. From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals. Skillo
  • Score: 1

11:44pm Sun 3 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species.
From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals.
the difference between the circus and the zoos are in a circus they are locked in a small cage for most of the day they are beaten and tortured made to preform in front of people unlike zoo.s were they are left to do as they please and not made to do silly tricks and transported in small trucks every week.
the lions and tigers in jollys circus are spent from spain to Ireland then to the uk,
watch this video if you have a spare 5 mins https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=pb3AKVn3
2_I
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species. From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals.[/p][/quote]the difference between the circus and the zoos are in a circus they are locked in a small cage for most of the day they are beaten and tortured made to preform in front of people unlike zoo.s were they are left to do as they please and not made to do silly tricks and transported in small trucks every week. the lions and tigers in jollys circus are spent from spain to Ireland then to the uk, watch this video if you have a spare 5 mins https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=pb3AKVn3 2_I unknown1992
  • Score: 3

11:49pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species.
From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals.
im not really sure where you are going with this thread?
personally i try not to kill anything...
we are NOT giving ANY one life form special treatment..... WILD Animals are NOT there to Entertain us.....
also its the way the animal is BROKEN,,,in spirit is the issue here..
some dogs for instance LOVE doing tricks etc....
Wild animals are brutally treated with electric prods, whips, chains and bullhooks , all prodded in their sensitive areas to obey to commands!
even Horses in Rodeos have their genitals tied up, they are in pain ... that is why they buck!
read this
http://www.bornfreeu
sa.org/mbw/c1_proble
m.php
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species. From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals.[/p][/quote]im not really sure where you are going with this thread? personally i try not to kill anything... we are NOT giving ANY one life form special treatment..... WILD Animals are NOT there to Entertain us..... also its the way the animal is BROKEN,,,in spirit is the issue here.. some dogs for instance LOVE doing tricks etc.... Wild animals are brutally treated with electric prods, whips, chains and bullhooks , all prodded in their sensitive areas to obey to commands! even Horses in Rodeos have their genitals tied up, they are in pain ... that is why they buck! read this http://www.bornfreeu sa.org/mbw/c1_proble m.php lilianc
  • Score: 6

11:55pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

lilianc wrote:
Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species.
From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals.
im not really sure where you are going with this thread?
personally i try not to kill anything...
we are NOT giving ANY one life form special treatment..... WILD Animals are NOT there to Entertain us.....
also its the way the animal is BROKEN,,,in spirit is the issue here..
some dogs for instance LOVE doing tricks etc....
Wild animals are brutally treated with electric prods, whips, chains and bullhooks , all prodded in their sensitive areas to obey to commands!
even Horses in Rodeos have their genitals tied up, they are in pain ... that is why they buck!
read this
http://www.bornfreeu

sa.org/mbw/c1_proble

m.php
this is from the BORN FREE FEDERATION:
Globally, thousands of wild animals are still forced to perform demeaning and unnatural tricks to entertain the public. They are exploited in travelling circuses, side-shows and within zoos, and used in advertising, film and television.

Animals are often made to perform ‘stunts’ and ‘humanised’ behaviours that are completely against their nature. Parrots riding bicycles, elephants standing on their heads or walking a tightrope, chimpanzees smoking cigarettes, and tigers jumping through hoops of fire are just some of the examples.

The training of wild animals often relies heavily on physical domination and fear, in an attempt to ensure the constant attention and compliance of the animal in front of an audience or camera. There have been numerous undercover investigations and reports from ex-trainers revealing evidence of systematic mistreatment and animal abuse.

In circuses, animals are transported from location to location, repeatedly loaded and unloaded, kept in small beast-wagons or chained within trucks. Similarly, animals used in the film industry are also routinely confined to cages between “takes”. Research has shown that spending many hours travelling or confined to a small and unnatural environment can cause heightened stress responses in an animal, resulting in serious negative welfare impacts. Training, boredom and the frustration in trying to cope with these unnatural conditions often result in an animal developing abnormal behaviours.

Born Free believes that it is outdated and unacceptable to use wild animals in circuses or to market products by making animals perform unnatural behaviours. Such acts misrepresent the true nature of the animals; require the animals to be subjected to an unnatural and often abusive lifestyle; and undermine public respect for the natural world. Born Free challenges the use of wild animals in circuses and performance, raises awareness about the issues, and campaigns for national and international legislation to bring this practice to an end.
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species. From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals.[/p][/quote]im not really sure where you are going with this thread? personally i try not to kill anything... we are NOT giving ANY one life form special treatment..... WILD Animals are NOT there to Entertain us..... also its the way the animal is BROKEN,,,in spirit is the issue here.. some dogs for instance LOVE doing tricks etc.... Wild animals are brutally treated with electric prods, whips, chains and bullhooks , all prodded in their sensitive areas to obey to commands! even Horses in Rodeos have their genitals tied up, they are in pain ... that is why they buck! read this http://www.bornfreeu sa.org/mbw/c1_proble m.php[/p][/quote]this is from the BORN FREE FEDERATION: Globally, thousands of wild animals are still forced to perform demeaning and unnatural tricks to entertain the public. They are exploited in travelling circuses, side-shows and within zoos, and used in advertising, film and television. Animals are often made to perform ‘stunts’ and ‘humanised’ behaviours that are completely against their nature. Parrots riding bicycles, elephants standing on their heads or walking a tightrope, chimpanzees smoking cigarettes, and tigers jumping through hoops of fire are just some of the examples. The training of wild animals often relies heavily on physical domination and fear, in an attempt to ensure the constant attention and compliance of the animal in front of an audience or camera. There have been numerous undercover investigations and reports from ex-trainers revealing evidence of systematic mistreatment and animal abuse. In circuses, animals are transported from location to location, repeatedly loaded and unloaded, kept in small beast-wagons or chained within trucks. Similarly, animals used in the film industry are also routinely confined to cages between “takes”. Research has shown that spending many hours travelling or confined to a small and unnatural environment can cause heightened stress responses in an animal, resulting in serious negative welfare impacts. Training, boredom and the frustration in trying to cope with these unnatural conditions often result in an animal developing abnormal behaviours. Born Free believes that it is outdated and unacceptable to use wild animals in circuses or to market products by making animals perform unnatural behaviours. Such acts misrepresent the true nature of the animals; require the animals to be subjected to an unnatural and often abusive lifestyle; and undermine public respect for the natural world. Born Free challenges the use of wild animals in circuses and performance, raises awareness about the issues, and campaigns for national and international legislation to bring this practice to an end. lilianc
  • Score: 5

11:57pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Skillo wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
lilianc wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to
them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is
Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer!
ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates
my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species.
From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals.
Globally, thousands of wild animals are still forced to perform demeaning and unnatural tricks to entertain the public. They are exploited in travelling circuses, side-shows and within zoos, and used in advertising, film and television.

Animals are often made to perform ‘stunts’ and ‘humanised’ behaviours that are completely against their nature. Parrots riding bicycles, elephants standing on their heads or walking a tightrope, chimpanzees smoking cigarettes, and tigers jumping through hoops of fire are just some of the examples.

The training of wild animals often relies heavily on physical domination and fear, in an attempt to ensure the constant attention and compliance of the animal in front of an audience or camera. There have been numerous undercover investigations and reports from ex-trainers revealing evidence of systematic mistreatment and animal abuse.

In circuses, animals are transported from location to location, repeatedly loaded and unloaded, kept in small beast-wagons or chained within trucks. Similarly, animals used in the film industry are also routinely confined to cages between “takes”. Research has shown that spending many hours travelling or confined to a small and unnatural environment can cause heightened stress responses in an animal, resulting in serious negative welfare impacts. Training, boredom and the frustration in trying to cope with these unnatural conditions often result in an animal developing abnormal behaviours.

Born Free believes that it is outdated and unacceptable to use wild animals in circuses or to market products by making animals perform unnatural behaviours. Such acts misrepresent the true nature of the animals; require the animals to be subjected to an unnatural and often abusive lifestyle; and undermine public respect for the natural world. Born Free challenges the use of wild animals in circuses and performance, raises awareness about the issues, and campaigns for national and international legislation to bring this practice to an end.
[quote][p][bold]Skillo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Looks like the protesters are getting a good sized mob together,they'll have swampy and his gang of new age travlers there next if the Circus stays there much longer.If someone wants to stage a protest that's up to them however if it's one that's a waste of time and effort there going to get ridiculed I might take a look down there later it's probley a few minutes of entertainment the protesters that is[/p][/quote]Yes do come show your face instead of hiding behind a computer![/p][/quote]ino lilianc all these people who are against it are just keyboard warriors who havnt got the guts to come and say it to all our faces all these bad comments that are being posted are more than likely the circus people and there mates[/p][/quote]my issue is how can you differentiate between animals in a circus and animals at a zoo or even riding a horse they are all used for our own selfish gains and to go to the extreme if we were to ban animals for our entertainment why not have laws to protects lower forms of life. Ok it may seem silly where do we stop? who is to say a large animal has more of a right to life than the fly you swat in your kitchen. As far as i'm concerned it is a bit hypocritical to give any life form special treatment over others. In an ideal world maybe, but unfortunately we do not live an ideal world. In this case of this circus at least they are breading them and in so conserving the species. From the pictures i see of the un-great white hunters posted on social networks, thankfully they are breading earning their keep and giving our young a memory of these animals. Gladly before they become extinct in the wild. I would go for thorough inspections without notice and would accept that. I actually do care for these animals.[/p][/quote]Globally, thousands of wild animals are still forced to perform demeaning and unnatural tricks to entertain the public. They are exploited in travelling circuses, side-shows and within zoos, and used in advertising, film and television. Animals are often made to perform ‘stunts’ and ‘humanised’ behaviours that are completely against their nature. Parrots riding bicycles, elephants standing on their heads or walking a tightrope, chimpanzees smoking cigarettes, and tigers jumping through hoops of fire are just some of the examples. The training of wild animals often relies heavily on physical domination and fear, in an attempt to ensure the constant attention and compliance of the animal in front of an audience or camera. There have been numerous undercover investigations and reports from ex-trainers revealing evidence of systematic mistreatment and animal abuse. In circuses, animals are transported from location to location, repeatedly loaded and unloaded, kept in small beast-wagons or chained within trucks. Similarly, animals used in the film industry are also routinely confined to cages between “takes”. Research has shown that spending many hours travelling or confined to a small and unnatural environment can cause heightened stress responses in an animal, resulting in serious negative welfare impacts. Training, boredom and the frustration in trying to cope with these unnatural conditions often result in an animal developing abnormal behaviours. Born Free believes that it is outdated and unacceptable to use wild animals in circuses or to market products by making animals perform unnatural behaviours. Such acts misrepresent the true nature of the animals; require the animals to be subjected to an unnatural and often abusive lifestyle; and undermine public respect for the natural world. Born Free challenges the use of wild animals in circuses and performance, raises awareness about the issues, and campaigns for national and international legislation to bring this practice to an end. lilianc
  • Score: 5

4:13am Mon 4 Aug 14

Skillo says...

When im wrong ill admit im wrong on this occasion im not understanding the full facts. Ill get back to you on this its 4 am and tired think i need to re **** my views. Thanks for your patience.
When im wrong ill admit im wrong on this occasion im not understanding the full facts. Ill get back to you on this its 4 am and tired think i need to re **** my views. Thanks for your patience. Skillo
  • Score: 3

8:56pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Just heard there staying for another fortnight
Just heard there staying for another fortnight Positive thinker
  • Score: -3

10:13pm Mon 4 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Just heard there staying for another fortnight
they leave on the 9th thats what it says on there fb anyway
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Just heard there staying for another fortnight[/p][/quote]they leave on the 9th thats what it says on there fb anyway unknown1992
  • Score: 2

1:42pm Tue 5 Aug 14

lilianc says...

unknown1992 wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Just heard there staying for another fortnight
they leave on the 9th thats what it says on there fb anyway
we will be there!
[quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Just heard there staying for another fortnight[/p][/quote]they leave on the 9th thats what it says on there fb anyway[/p][/quote]we will be there! lilianc
  • Score: 1

3:05pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Are you going to follow them to there next venue? Or are you just
part timers
Are you going to follow them to there next venue? Or are you just part timers Positive thinker
  • Score: -1

3:20pm Tue 5 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Are you going to follow them to there next venue? Or are you just
part timers
At this moment in time I'm not at liberty to say x it depends on the coach driver x
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Are you going to follow them to there next venue? Or are you just part timers[/p][/quote]At this moment in time I'm not at liberty to say x it depends on the coach driver x lilianc
  • Score: 3

5:40pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Rudebox says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Are you going to follow them to there next venue? Or are you just
part timers
I'm sure there will be protestors at the next location and the one after that too? Just as there was at previous locations, prior to them bringing their out- dated circus here to Wirral.
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Are you going to follow them to there next venue? Or are you just part timers[/p][/quote]I'm sure there will be protestors at the next location and the one after that too? Just as there was at previous locations, prior to them bringing their out- dated circus here to Wirral. Rudebox
  • Score: 1

10:37pm Tue 5 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

lilianc wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
Positive thinker wrote:
Just heard there staying for another fortnight
they leave on the 9th thats what it says on there fb anyway
we will be there!
we sure will be been going everyday now :D
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Just heard there staying for another fortnight[/p][/quote]they leave on the 9th thats what it says on there fb anyway[/p][/quote]we will be there![/p][/quote]we sure will be been going everyday now :D unknown1992
  • Score: 1

10:20am Wed 6 Aug 14

Joylake says...

pure scum, the circus and the people that pay to watch such cruelty
pure scum, the circus and the people that pay to watch such cruelty Joylake
  • Score: 4

10:39am Wed 6 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Pure scum! Isn't that a bit harsh
Pure scum! Isn't that a bit harsh Positive thinker
  • Score: -3

11:52am Wed 6 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Pure scum! Isn't that a bit harsh
Nope!! Not harsh.... it IS CRUEL!!!
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Pure scum! Isn't that a bit harsh[/p][/quote]Nope!! Not harsh.... it IS CRUEL!!! lilianc
  • Score: 1

11:53am Wed 6 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Positive thinker wrote:
Are you going to follow them to there next venue? Or are you just
part timers
There will ALWAYS BE PROTESTERS!
[quote][p][bold]Positive thinker[/bold] wrote: Are you going to follow them to there next venue? Or are you just part timers[/p][/quote]There will ALWAYS BE PROTESTERS! lilianc
  • Score: 4

7:25am Fri 8 Aug 14

David Scott says...

Whether you are for or against circuses with animals, as with most things now, these matters are not now decided by the UK government. The Austrian government sought to bring in a ban in Austria but was challenged in the European Court, which is why the UK government shelved a bill that had been drafted to ban animal acts in circuses in the UK and brought in a licensing system instead.
Whether you are for or against circuses with animals, as with most things now, these matters are not now decided by the UK government. The Austrian government sought to bring in a ban in Austria but was challenged in the European Court, which is why the UK government shelved a bill that had been drafted to ban animal acts in circuses in the UK and brought in a licensing system instead. David Scott
  • Score: 0

9:48am Fri 8 Aug 14

uncatom says...

Stop feeding Positive thinker, he's a troll
Stop feeding Positive thinker, he's a troll uncatom
  • Score: 2

11:46am Fri 8 Aug 14

Positive thinker says...

Pure scum,

I thought that was a saying only used to describe people who
sponge of the state and moan when the benifet system is not going there
way
Pure scum, I thought that was a saying only used to describe people who sponge of the state and moan when the benifet system is not going there way Positive thinker
  • Score: 0

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