Peter Jolly Circus defends its use of performing animals as Wirral protest grows

One of the lions which performs at Peter Jolly’s Circus, one of only two in England that still uses live animals in the ring

One of the lions which performs at Peter Jolly’s Circus, one of only two in England that still uses live animals in the ring

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A TRAVELLING circus at the centre of a storm in Wirral has defended itself over its use of performing animals.

Peter Jolly’s Traditional Circus pitched up in Upton this week for a series of shows featuring lions and tigers.

Protests have been held outside the showground in Saughall Massie Road, and social networking sites flooded with angry comments.

Anthony Beckwith, speaking on behalf of circus owner Peter Jolly, told the Globe: “We have had protests, but they have been largely peaceful.

"People want to come and see a traditional circus.

"We don’t have animals from the wild, they are all bred within the industry. Our lions are British-born from several generations.

"If the lions didn't receive full care we would not be able to have them in the show.

“With the exception of the lions and one or two donkeys, the animals are kept out in the open air on a few acres of land.

"There are people who have genuine concerns about how the animals are treated and we have an open-door policy to help calm their fears."

Mr Beckwith added: "If people want to come along and see what conditions the animals live in, they are welcome to do so.

"We are licensed by the Secretary of State for the environment and monitored by DEFRA, working very closely with them."

Councillor Bernie Mooney, town hall cabinet member for the environment, said: “I fully understand that many people are concerned about the use of live animals in this circus.

"Wirral Council would not have permitted this to take place on council-owned land.

“Unfortunately, we have no power to prevent such a circus on private land if it holds a ‘Licence to Operate a Travelling Circus Using Wild Animals’ from the Department for Environment Food and Rural Affairs, which this circus does."

Councillor Moonie said DEFRA is responsible for enforcing conditions issued with the licence under the Welfare of Wild Animals in Travelling Circuses Regulations 2012.

She added: “However, officers from Wirral Council have visited the circus to ensure that basic welfare requirements concerning food, water, shelter etc are being met.

Pressure group Animal Defenders International urged animal-lovers to boycott the circus, one of only two remaining in the UK which still use "wild" animals.

A spokeswoman said: “If the circus has animals – don’t go. Wait and have a day out when the human-only circus comes around.”

Wirral RSPCA Inspector Anthony Joynes added: "The circus is a complete no-no for us given they have live performing animals and we are getting lots and lots of calls about it.

"We are against any circus utilising live animals."

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1:03pm Fri 25 Jul 14

piermaster says...

"We have an open door policy" You could not make this up with regards to wild animals, Could You ??
"We have an open door policy" You could not make this up with regards to wild animals, Could You ?? piermaster
  • Score: 35

2:12pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Joylake says...

Should the use of animals in circuses be banned? 52% NO

WOW
Should the use of animals in circuses be banned? 52% NO WOW Joylake
  • Score: -11

2:54pm Fri 25 Jul 14

yesandorno says...

@ joylake .....peter jollys is famous for hi jacking local websites comments pages , multiple calls to radio phone ins etc , they put a lot of effort into making people think they are great.
@ joylake .....peter jollys is famous for hi jacking local websites comments pages , multiple calls to radio phone ins etc , they put a lot of effort into making people think they are great. yesandorno
  • Score: 72

3:41pm Fri 25 Jul 14

elisab says...

Look at that photo, king of the jungle being caged & forced to perform tricks for human entertainment. Total humiliation of such a majestic creature. Pitiful. *Queue thumbs down from the ream of circus folk voting and making accounts just to reply, as is their evident remit, likewise making a sham of the public vote on this. It is patently evident all the stories posted regarding this have been (as yesandorno stated) hijacked in a futile attempt to sway opinion in favour of this archaic circus. The comments prior to their infiltration proof positive. Maybe they should get off the computer and go tend to the helpless animals in this searing heat!!
Look at that photo, king of the jungle being caged & forced to perform tricks for human entertainment. Total humiliation of such a majestic creature. Pitiful. *Queue thumbs down from the ream of circus folk voting and making accounts just to reply, as is their evident remit, likewise making a sham of the public vote on this. It is patently evident all the stories posted regarding this have been (as yesandorno stated) hijacked in a futile attempt to sway opinion in favour of this archaic circus. The comments prior to their infiltration proof positive. Maybe they should get off the computer and go tend to the helpless animals in this searing heat!! elisab
  • Score: 103

3:45pm Fri 25 Jul 14

JohnON says...

It's certainly not to my taste but, presumably, the attendance figures make it a viable concern. If other people want to watch this sort of thing, who am I to dissaude them.

Assuming (and admittedly it may be a big assumption) but assuming DEFRA are completely on top of this, animal welfare wise, one day they may be the only animals of their type left!
It's certainly not to my taste but, presumably, the attendance figures make it a viable concern. If other people want to watch this sort of thing, who am I to dissaude them. Assuming (and admittedly it may be a big assumption) but assuming DEFRA are completely on top of this, animal welfare wise, one day they may be the only animals of their type left! JohnON
  • Score: -59

4:06pm Fri 25 Jul 14

naughtykitties says...

The idea that these people can take proper care of lions is utterly comical. A poxy little circus cage is not suitable for a creature that is evolved to range the Serengeti!
The idea that these people can take proper care of lions is utterly comical. A poxy little circus cage is not suitable for a creature that is evolved to range the Serengeti! naughtykitties
  • Score: 93

4:21pm Fri 25 Jul 14

bigfoot says...

We don't need this we already have a circus with lots of clowns and dumb animals,its in Brighton Street!
We don't need this we already have a circus with lots of clowns and dumb animals,its in Brighton Street! bigfoot
  • Score: 34

7:06pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Rudebox says...

Anthony Beckwith, speaking on behalf of circus owner Peter Jolly, told the Globe: “We have had protests, but they have been largely peaceful. OF COURSE!!!!

"People want to come and see a traditional circus. NOT TRADITIONAL IN THE VICTORIAN SENSE THAT INCLUDES ANIMALS

"We don’t have animals from the wild, they are all bred within the industry. Our lions are British-born from several generations. SO THAT MAKES IT ALL OK THEN DOES IT??

"If the lions didn't receive full care we would not be able to have them in the show. NO. 'BASIC CARE' IS ALL THAT IS REQUIRED.

“With the exception of the lions and one or two donkeys, the animals are kept out in the open air on a few acres of land. WHAT ABOUT THE TIGERS AND THE POOR FOX?

"There are people who have genuine concerns about how the animals are treated and we have an open-door policy to help calm their fears." AT A PRICE. HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE FOR STAGE MANAGED ACCESS??
Anthony Beckwith, speaking on behalf of circus owner Peter Jolly, told the Globe: “We have had protests, but they have been largely peaceful. OF COURSE!!!! "People want to come and see a traditional circus. NOT TRADITIONAL IN THE VICTORIAN SENSE THAT INCLUDES ANIMALS "We don’t have animals from the wild, they are all bred within the industry. Our lions are British-born from several generations. SO THAT MAKES IT ALL OK THEN DOES IT?? "If the lions didn't receive full care we would not be able to have them in the show. NO. 'BASIC CARE' IS ALL THAT IS REQUIRED. “With the exception of the lions and one or two donkeys, the animals are kept out in the open air on a few acres of land. WHAT ABOUT THE TIGERS AND THE POOR FOX? "There are people who have genuine concerns about how the animals are treated and we have an open-door policy to help calm their fears." AT A PRICE. HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE FOR STAGE MANAGED ACCESS?? Rudebox
  • Score: 56

7:57pm Fri 25 Jul 14

dee thomas says...

i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ?
i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ? dee thomas
  • Score: -107

8:25pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Melissa99 says...

Not too many thumbs down at the moment on the posts, ooh, that's because the show is on and the staff are busy fleecing people for money!
Not too many thumbs down at the moment on the posts, ooh, that's because the show is on and the staff are busy fleecing people for money! Melissa99
  • Score: 67

11:04pm Fri 25 Jul 14

dee thomas says...

i passed there earlier it was a packed house it has been like that since wednesday and all it is doing bringing people in to see a jolly good show
i passed there earlier it was a packed house it has been like that since wednesday and all it is doing bringing people in to see a jolly good show dee thomas
  • Score: -83

9:49am Sat 26 Jul 14

Positive thinker says...

Good to see the good old fashion Circus back on the road,there's a big piece of land on the Dock Road in Wallasey were the Fair sets up a couple
of times a year,would we good to see a Circus there as I am not mobile
along with a lot of other people in the surrounding area
Good to see the good old fashion Circus back on the road,there's a big piece of land on the Dock Road in Wallasey were the Fair sets up a couple of times a year,would we good to see a Circus there as I am not mobile along with a lot of other people in the surrounding area Positive thinker
  • Score: -60

4:09pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Traveller1701 says...

Good for you PJC, keep up the good work. There are a lot of people out there who support you 100%.
Keep your chins up and your animals looking, feeling and performing beautifully.
Much love,
Your circus friends in Australia xx
Good for you PJC, keep up the good work. There are a lot of people out there who support you 100%. Keep your chins up and your animals looking, feeling and performing beautifully. Much love, Your circus friends in Australia xx Traveller1701
  • Score: -115

4:58pm Sat 26 Jul 14

jeselis says...

LOL, this is hysterical, you can set your clock by the time the circus folk are not playing in the circus ring as all the comments expressing negativity regarding the use of animals as money makers suddenly go into overload with votes down, despite being comprehensively voted up before! Give it up you real life clowns, the fact that you feel the need to falsify comments/ votes says it all, a nerve has clearly been touched and you know it & the fact you feel the need to defend yourselves and your antiquated actions, likewise!
LOL, this is hysterical, you can set your clock by the time the circus folk are not playing in the circus ring as all the comments expressing negativity regarding the use of animals as money makers suddenly go into overload with votes down, despite being comprehensively voted up before! Give it up you real life clowns, the fact that you feel the need to falsify comments/ votes says it all, a nerve has clearly been touched and you know it & the fact you feel the need to defend yourselves and your antiquated actions, likewise! jeselis
  • Score: 77

8:46pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Growl Tiger says...

If the only way they can make money is through the exploitation of caged wild animals then it shows what low life they are. Get an education, get an apprenticeship. Don't tie up wild animals and treat them as "clowns".

I have never known our comments to be hijacked so blatantly until the circus came to town. But this is what happens everywhere they go.
If the only way they can make money is through the exploitation of caged wild animals then it shows what low life they are. Get an education, get an apprenticeship. Don't tie up wild animals and treat them as "clowns". I have never known our comments to be hijacked so blatantly until the circus came to town. But this is what happens everywhere they go. Growl Tiger
  • Score: 82

10:26pm Sat 26 Jul 14

monmar says...

These are wild animals and should not be exploited. Do not go to this circus. Disgusting.
These are wild animals and should not be exploited. Do not go to this circus. Disgusting. monmar
  • Score: 84

3:18pm Sun 27 Jul 14

littlestar84 says...

I am shocked how backwards people are in 2014, wanting to see animals perform tricks. Get a life, and get some respect for animals. Stop supporting these people, they should get proper jobs, not live off the abuse of animals. Look into the family.
I am shocked how backwards people are in 2014, wanting to see animals perform tricks. Get a life, and get some respect for animals. Stop supporting these people, they should get proper jobs, not live off the abuse of animals. Look into the family. littlestar84
  • Score: 66

3:23pm Sun 27 Jul 14

littlestar84 says...

http://www.theguardi
an.com/uk/1999/jan/2
8/helencarter This is how this family treat animals
http://www.theguardi an.com/uk/1999/jan/2 8/helencarter This is how this family treat animals littlestar84
  • Score: 9

4:06pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Rudebox says...

monmar wrote:
naughtykitties wrote:
potsmoker wrote:
hey u people why dont you go start sayin about the frackin on hilbre island ive been to this circus y dont yer go yer self and watch it cos you wont cos the whole lot of yer r just sad pathetic people who haven't got nothink els to do but start on a circus you people r sad they dont fleece people they give you money worth entertainment IM BACKIN PETER JOLLY CIRCUS

IF YOU WANT TROUBLE ILL GIVE IT TO YERS UNDERSTSAND!
Internet Tough Guy alert!
Pathetic
In English?
[quote][p][bold]monmar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]naughtykitties[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]potsmoker[/bold] wrote: hey u people why dont you go start sayin about the frackin on hilbre island ive been to this circus y dont yer go yer self and watch it cos you wont cos the whole lot of yer r just sad pathetic people who haven't got nothink els to do but start on a circus you people r sad they dont fleece people they give you money worth entertainment IM BACKIN PETER JOLLY CIRCUS IF YOU WANT TROUBLE ILL GIVE IT TO YERS UNDERSTSAND![/p][/quote]Internet Tough Guy alert![/p][/quote]Pathetic[/p][/quote]In English? Rudebox
  • Score: 11

6:14pm Sun 27 Jul 14

bluey says...

Vile, should be banned, shame on people supporting the animals suffering
Vile, should be banned, shame on people supporting the animals suffering bluey
  • Score: 51

7:48am Mon 28 Jul 14

glasgowgirl50 says...

With the EXCEPTION OF THE LIONS all animal are kept outside. The king of the jungle is kept in a cage. I don't care if they are all captive bred, no animal deserves to spend its life in a cage
With the EXCEPTION OF THE LIONS all animal are kept outside. The king of the jungle is kept in a cage. I don't care if they are all captive bred, no animal deserves to spend its life in a cage glasgowgirl50
  • Score: 52

7:48am Mon 28 Jul 14

glasgowgirl50 says...

With the EXCEPTION OF THE LIONS all animal are kept outside. The king of the jungle is kept in a cage. I don't care if they are all captive bred, no animal deserves to spend its life in a cage
With the EXCEPTION OF THE LIONS all animal are kept outside. The king of the jungle is kept in a cage. I don't care if they are all captive bred, no animal deserves to spend its life in a cage glasgowgirl50
  • Score: 35

11:26am Mon 28 Jul 14

tableleg says...

As usual the circus folk sign in and post lots of pro circus comments. Most decent people know it is wrong to have wild animals (no matter when and where they were born) in a circus doing unnatural acts and kept in beast wagons. How sad is that! Having a fox ride a donkey, I ask you! It can only be people with low intellect that patronise this circus. And why does it need two SERGEANTS from Merseyside Police to attend a peaceful protest of a group of women, patronisingly asking them 'how it's going'! Haven't you got work to do!
Thought there was austerity at the moment regarding policing! Saying wild animals are happy in a circus is like saying a child locked in a cupboard is happy as they know no better. Let these animal go to Born Free and have the type of life they deserve in a sanctuary. Selfish people attending this circus should look to their own consciences. Children should be taught to respect animals not have a bit of fun seeing them made to do unnatural acts in a performing freak show!
As usual the circus folk sign in and post lots of pro circus comments. Most decent people know it is wrong to have wild animals (no matter when and where they were born) in a circus doing unnatural acts and kept in beast wagons. How sad is that! Having a fox ride a donkey, I ask you! It can only be people with low intellect that patronise this circus. And why does it need two SERGEANTS from Merseyside Police to attend a peaceful protest of a group of women, patronisingly asking them 'how it's going'! Haven't you got work to do! Thought there was austerity at the moment regarding policing! Saying wild animals are happy in a circus is like saying a child locked in a cupboard is happy as they know no better. Let these animal go to Born Free and have the type of life they deserve in a sanctuary. Selfish people attending this circus should look to their own consciences. Children should be taught to respect animals not have a bit of fun seeing them made to do unnatural acts in a performing freak show! tableleg
  • Score: 51

8:20pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Melissa99 says...

potsmoker wrote:
hey u people why dont you go start sayin about the frackin on hilbre island ive been to this circus y dont yer go yer self and watch it cos you wont cos the whole lot of yer r just sad pathetic people who haven't got nothink els to do but start on a circus you people r sad they dont fleece people they give you money worth entertainment IM BACKIN PETER JOLLY CIRCUS

IF YOU WANT TROUBLE ILL GIVE IT TO YERS UNDERSTSAND!
Punctuation anyone? I nearly passed out reading that load of crap!
Get your monies worth of entertainment huh….what all £5.99 of it? What a joke.
[quote][p][bold]potsmoker[/bold] wrote: hey u people why dont you go start sayin about the frackin on hilbre island ive been to this circus y dont yer go yer self and watch it cos you wont cos the whole lot of yer r just sad pathetic people who haven't got nothink els to do but start on a circus you people r sad they dont fleece people they give you money worth entertainment IM BACKIN PETER JOLLY CIRCUS IF YOU WANT TROUBLE ILL GIVE IT TO YERS UNDERSTSAND![/p][/quote]Punctuation anyone? I nearly passed out reading that load of crap! Get your monies worth of entertainment huh….what all £5.99 of it? What a joke. Melissa99
  • Score: 23

4:00pm Tue 29 Jul 14

InFavorOfCircus says...

People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine!
People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine! InFavorOfCircus
  • Score: -32

11:13pm Tue 29 Jul 14

bohemian-living says...

Three wild animals died in Peter Jolly's circuses in last year - report.

http://www.captivean
imals.org/news/2014/
02/three-wild-animal
s-died-in-english-ci
rcuses-in-last-year
Three wild animals died in Peter Jolly's circuses in last year - report. http://www.captivean imals.org/news/2014/ 02/three-wild-animal s-died-in-english-ci rcuses-in-last-year bohemian-living
  • Score: 13

4:58pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Positive thinker says...

Get over it
Get over it Positive thinker
  • Score: -14

5:11pm Wed 30 Jul 14

tableleg says...

In Favour of Circus states: people should have the right to attend', yet those poor wild animals have no rights, they have to travel in beast wagons and do unnatural acts with NO rights. What gives you the right to make an animal have such an awful life? You also state they are loved, same kind of propaganda used when any abuse is taking place, like saying a wife beater 'loves' his wife. Animals cannot have a decent life kept in cages and not able to exhibit natural behaviour and anyone with a brain can deduce that. Their needs CANNOT be met in such an environment and anyone who thinks they can needs to educate themselves
In Favour of Circus states: people should have the right to attend', yet those poor wild animals have no rights, they have to travel in beast wagons and do unnatural acts with NO rights. What gives you the right to make an animal have such an awful life? You also state they are loved, same kind of propaganda used when any abuse is taking place, like saying a wife beater 'loves' his wife. Animals cannot have a decent life kept in cages and not able to exhibit natural behaviour and anyone with a brain can deduce that. Their needs CANNOT be met in such an environment and anyone who thinks they can needs to educate themselves tableleg
  • Score: 27

6:24pm Sat 2 Aug 14

gingercat1995 says...

The rights of humans does not include sickening cruelty to defenceless innocent animals by inflicting pain, suffering, incarceration in tiny filthy cages or torture to make animals perform the most stupid unnatural acts which some of these humans couldn't do themselves! How do you think they get animals to perform these unnatural acts? This is not part of their genetic make up! Open your eyes and learn and see what you are calling "humans and their rights".This is not a matter of anyones opinion, its what is wrong , cruel , disgusting and can only be enjoyed by the humans with low moral standards or ethics because as a human race we are supposed to be civilised and this not civilised treatment of animals. So your rights are your rights as long as it does not extend to repulsive cruelty to the vulnerable voiceless! This is not a match!
The rights of humans does not include sickening cruelty to defenceless innocent animals by inflicting pain, suffering, incarceration in tiny filthy cages or torture to make animals perform the most stupid unnatural acts which some of these humans couldn't do themselves! How do you think they get animals to perform these unnatural acts? This is not part of their genetic make up! Open your eyes and learn and see what you are calling "humans and their rights".This is not a matter of anyones opinion, its what is wrong , cruel , disgusting and can only be enjoyed by the humans with low moral standards or ethics because as a human race we are supposed to be civilised and this not civilised treatment of animals. So your rights are your rights as long as it does not extend to repulsive cruelty to the vulnerable voiceless! This is not a match! gingercat1995
  • Score: 16

10:26pm Sat 2 Aug 14

lilianc says...

piermaster wrote:
"We have an open door policy" You could not make this up with regards to wild animals, Could You ??
they wont let us in to see them.... apparently you have to pay to go in to see that!
[quote][p][bold]piermaster[/bold] wrote: "We have an open door policy" You could not make this up with regards to wild animals, Could You ??[/p][/quote]they wont let us in to see them.... apparently you have to pay to go in to see that! lilianc
  • Score: 4

10:29pm Sat 2 Aug 14

lilianc says...

dee thomas wrote:
i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ?
whats wrong with taking your children to Chester Zoo.... the best in the country where animals are CARED for! and NOT poked into submission to entertain humans!
[quote][p][bold]dee thomas[/bold] wrote: i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ?[/p][/quote]whats wrong with taking your children to Chester Zoo.... the best in the country where animals are CARED for! and NOT poked into submission to entertain humans! lilianc
  • Score: 5

10:37pm Sat 2 Aug 14

lilianc says...

InFavorOfCircus wrote:
People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine!
how pathetic!
Wild Animals are NOT there to Entertain us!
we KNOW alot about Animals and we believe that Circuses DONT..... anyone who makes a Wild animal BREAK and SUBMIT to to human commands must be evil
[quote][p][bold]InFavorOfCircus[/bold] wrote: People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine![/p][/quote]how pathetic! Wild Animals are NOT there to Entertain us! we KNOW alot about Animals and we believe that Circuses DONT..... anyone who makes a Wild animal BREAK and SUBMIT to to human commands must be evil lilianc
  • Score: 8

10:28pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

lilianc wrote:
dee thomas wrote:
i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ?
whats wrong with taking your children to Chester Zoo.... the best in the country where animals are CARED for! and NOT poked into submission to entertain humans!
a lot of us DO live in the area!
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dee thomas[/bold] wrote: i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ?[/p][/quote]whats wrong with taking your children to Chester Zoo.... the best in the country where animals are CARED for! and NOT poked into submission to entertain humans![/p][/quote]a lot of us DO live in the area! lilianc
  • Score: 3

10:32pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

lilianc wrote:
InFavorOfCircus wrote:
People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine!
how pathetic!
Wild Animals are NOT there to Entertain us!
we KNOW alot about Animals and we believe that Circuses DONT..... anyone who makes a Wild animal BREAK and SUBMIT to to human commands must be evil
I have contacted an WORLD RENOWN Authority on WILD ANIMALS
i informed the of this Circus and it Lions and Tigers and i received this Email .....

''Thank you for your email with info about Jolley’s Circus.

The Government introduced a Circus Licensing Scheme which was temporarily put into place until the proposed Bill banning the use of wild animals in circuses in England was supposed to come into force from 1st December 2015. Currently the regulations require all operators of travelling circuses in England which use wild animals to be licensed. Licensed circuses are required to receive regular inspections to check compliance with welfare standards, so this will be the ‘certificates’ the circus worker you spoke to was referring to. We obviously don’t believe that the welfare of these animals can be provided for in a travelling circus environment, licensed or not.

www.bornfree.org.uk/
campaigns/zoo-check/
circuses-performing-
animals/circus-news/
article/?no_cache=1&
tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%
5D=1603.
Rest assured Born Free is continuing to do all we can to try and make sure that the ban comes into force.

Thank you for making a stand for animals in circuses and please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

Kind Regards,
Sarah Jefferson
Zoo Check Assistant
Born Free Foundation

Tel: +44 (0)1403 240 170
Email: sarahj@bornfree.org.
uk
Address: Born Free Foundation, 3 Grove House, Foundry Lane, Horsham, West Sussex, RH13 5PL
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InFavorOfCircus[/bold] wrote: People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine![/p][/quote]how pathetic! Wild Animals are NOT there to Entertain us! we KNOW alot about Animals and we believe that Circuses DONT..... anyone who makes a Wild animal BREAK and SUBMIT to to human commands must be evil[/p][/quote]I have contacted an WORLD RENOWN Authority on WILD ANIMALS i informed the of this Circus and it Lions and Tigers and i received this Email ..... ''Thank you for your email with info about Jolley’s Circus. The Government introduced a Circus Licensing Scheme which was temporarily put into place until the proposed Bill banning the use of wild animals in circuses in England was supposed to come into force from 1st December 2015. Currently the regulations require all operators of travelling circuses in England which use wild animals to be licensed. Licensed circuses are required to receive regular inspections to check compliance with welfare standards, so this will be the ‘certificates’ the circus worker you spoke to was referring to. We obviously don’t believe that the welfare of these animals can be provided for in a travelling circus environment, licensed or not. www.bornfree.org.uk/ campaigns/zoo-check/ circuses-performing- animals/circus-news/ article/?no_cache=1& tx_ttnews%5Btt_news% 5D=1603. Rest assured Born Free is continuing to do all we can to try and make sure that the ban comes into force. Thank you for making a stand for animals in circuses and please don’t hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, Sarah Jefferson Zoo Check Assistant Born Free Foundation Tel: +44 (0)1403 240 170 Email: sarahj@bornfree.org. uk Address: Born Free Foundation, 3 Grove House, Foundry Lane, Horsham, West Sussex, RH13 5PL lilianc
  • Score: 5

10:41pm Sun 3 Aug 14

lilianc says...

lilianc wrote:
lilianc wrote:
InFavorOfCircus wrote:
People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine!
how pathetic!
Wild Animals are NOT there to Entertain us!
we KNOW alot about Animals and we believe that Circuses DONT..... anyone who makes a Wild animal BREAK and SUBMIT to to human commands must be evil
I have contacted an WORLD RENOWN Authority on WILD ANIMALS
i informed the of this Circus and it Lions and Tigers and i received this Email .....

''Thank you for your email with info about Jolley’s Circus.

The Government introduced a Circus Licensing Scheme which was temporarily put into place until the proposed Bill banning the use of wild animals in circuses in England was supposed to come into force from 1st December 2015. Currently the regulations require all operators of travelling circuses in England which use wild animals to be licensed. Licensed circuses are required to receive regular inspections to check compliance with welfare standards, so this will be the ‘certificates’ the circus worker you spoke to was referring to. We obviously don’t believe that the welfare of these animals can be provided for in a travelling circus environment, licensed or not.

www.bornfree.org.uk/

campaigns/zoo-check/

circuses-performing-

animals/circus-news/

article/?no_cache=1&
amp;
tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%

5D=1603.
Rest assured Born Free is continuing to do all we can to try and make sure that the ban comes into force.

Thank you for making a stand for animals in circuses and please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

Kind Regards,
Sarah Jefferson
Zoo Check Assistant
Born Free Foundation

Tel: +44 (0)1403 240 170
Email: sarahj@bornfree.org.

uk
Address: Born Free Foundation, 3 Grove House, Foundry Lane, Horsham, West Sussex, RH13 5PL
NOW THIS IS A CIRCUS!
!!http://circus-zyai
r.co.uk/
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InFavorOfCircus[/bold] wrote: People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine![/p][/quote]how pathetic! Wild Animals are NOT there to Entertain us! we KNOW alot about Animals and we believe that Circuses DONT..... anyone who makes a Wild animal BREAK and SUBMIT to to human commands must be evil[/p][/quote]I have contacted an WORLD RENOWN Authority on WILD ANIMALS i informed the of this Circus and it Lions and Tigers and i received this Email ..... ''Thank you for your email with info about Jolley’s Circus. The Government introduced a Circus Licensing Scheme which was temporarily put into place until the proposed Bill banning the use of wild animals in circuses in England was supposed to come into force from 1st December 2015. Currently the regulations require all operators of travelling circuses in England which use wild animals to be licensed. Licensed circuses are required to receive regular inspections to check compliance with welfare standards, so this will be the ‘certificates’ the circus worker you spoke to was referring to. We obviously don’t believe that the welfare of these animals can be provided for in a travelling circus environment, licensed or not. www.bornfree.org.uk/ campaigns/zoo-check/ circuses-performing- animals/circus-news/ article/?no_cache=1& amp; tx_ttnews%5Btt_news% 5D=1603. Rest assured Born Free is continuing to do all we can to try and make sure that the ban comes into force. Thank you for making a stand for animals in circuses and please don’t hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, Sarah Jefferson Zoo Check Assistant Born Free Foundation Tel: +44 (0)1403 240 170 Email: sarahj@bornfree.org. uk Address: Born Free Foundation, 3 Grove House, Foundry Lane, Horsham, West Sussex, RH13 5PL[/p][/quote]NOW THIS IS A CIRCUS! !!http://circus-zyai r.co.uk/ lilianc
  • Score: -1

10:22am Wed 6 Aug 14

Joylake says...

Traveller1701 wrote:
Good for you PJC, keep up the good work. There are a lot of people out there who support you 100%.
Keep your chins up and your animals looking, feeling and performing beautifully.
Much love,
Your circus friends in Australia xx
- 108 Thumbs down!
[quote][p][bold]Traveller1701[/bold] wrote: Good for you PJC, keep up the good work. There are a lot of people out there who support you 100%. Keep your chins up and your animals looking, feeling and performing beautifully. Much love, Your circus friends in Australia xx[/p][/quote]- 108 Thumbs down! Joylake
  • Score: 1

11:38am Wed 6 Aug 14

lilianc says...

Joylake wrote:
Traveller1701 wrote:
Good for you PJC, keep up the good work. There are a lot of people out there who support you 100%.
Keep your chins up and your animals looking, feeling and performing beautifully.
Much love,
Your circus friends in Australia xx
- 108 Thumbs down!
pathetic!
Wild Animals are NOT there to Entertain us!
we KNOW alot about Animals and we believe that Circuses DONT..... anyone who makes a Wild animal BREAK and SUBMIT to to human commands must be evil
I have contacted an WORLD RENOWN Authority on WILD ANIMALS the . BORN FREE Foundaction..
i informed them of this Circus and its poor living conditions of the Lions and Tigers including photos...
and i received this Email .....

''Thank you for your email with info about Jolley’s Circus.

The Government introduced a Circus Licensing Scheme which was temporarily put into place until the proposed Bill banning the use of wild animals in circuses in England was supposed to come into force from 1st December 2015. Currently the regulations require all operators of travelling circuses in England which use wild animals to be licensed. Licensed circuses are required to receive regular inspections to check compliance with welfare standards, so this will be the ‘certificates’ the circus worker you spoke to was referring to. We obviously don’t believe that the welfare of these animals can be provided for in a travelling circus environment, licensed or not.

www.bornfree.org.uk/


campaigns/zoo-check/


circuses-performing-


animals/circus-news/


article/?no_cache=1&

amp;
tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%


5D=1603.
Rest assured Born Free is continuing to do all we can to try and make sure that the ban comes into force.

Thank you for making a stand for animals in circuses and please don’t hesitate to contact us again.

Kind Regards,
Sarah Jefferson
Zoo Check Assistant
Born Free Foundation

Tel: +44 (0)1403 240 170
Email: sarahj@bornfree.org.
uk
[quote][p][bold]Joylake[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Traveller1701[/bold] wrote: Good for you PJC, keep up the good work. There are a lot of people out there who support you 100%. Keep your chins up and your animals looking, feeling and performing beautifully. Much love, Your circus friends in Australia xx[/p][/quote]- 108 Thumbs down![/p][/quote]pathetic! Wild Animals are NOT there to Entertain us! we KNOW alot about Animals and we believe that Circuses DONT..... anyone who makes a Wild animal BREAK and SUBMIT to to human commands must be evil I have contacted an WORLD RENOWN Authority on WILD ANIMALS the . BORN FREE Foundaction.. i informed them of this Circus and its poor living conditions of the Lions and Tigers including photos... and i received this Email ..... ''Thank you for your email with info about Jolley’s Circus. The Government introduced a Circus Licensing Scheme which was temporarily put into place until the proposed Bill banning the use of wild animals in circuses in England was supposed to come into force from 1st December 2015. Currently the regulations require all operators of travelling circuses in England which use wild animals to be licensed. Licensed circuses are required to receive regular inspections to check compliance with welfare standards, so this will be the ‘certificates’ the circus worker you spoke to was referring to. We obviously don’t believe that the welfare of these animals can be provided for in a travelling circus environment, licensed or not. www.bornfree.org.uk/ campaigns/zoo-check/ circuses-performing- animals/circus-news/ article/?no_cache=1& amp; tx_ttnews%5Btt_news% 5D=1603. Rest assured Born Free is continuing to do all we can to try and make sure that the ban comes into force. Thank you for making a stand for animals in circuses and please don’t hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, Sarah Jefferson Zoo Check Assistant Born Free Foundation Tel: +44 (0)1403 240 170 Email: sarahj@bornfree.org. uk lilianc
  • Score: 2

4:18pm Wed 6 Aug 14

just say no says...

6 months ago jolly circus killed a tiger and snake :

http://www.captivean
imals.org/news/2014/
02/three-wild-animal
s-died-in-english-ci
rcuses-in-last-year
6 months ago jolly circus killed a tiger and snake : http://www.captivean imals.org/news/2014/ 02/three-wild-animal s-died-in-english-ci rcuses-in-last-year just say no
  • Score: 2

11:37pm Tue 19 Aug 14

unknown1992 says...

dee thomas wrote:
i passed there earlier it was a packed house it has been like that since wednesday and all it is doing bringing people in to see a jolly good show
dont lie i was there everyday protesting i am protesting outside there new spot it wasnt packed everyday atall
[quote][p][bold]dee thomas[/bold] wrote: i passed there earlier it was a packed house it has been like that since wednesday and all it is doing bringing people in to see a jolly good show[/p][/quote]dont lie i was there everyday protesting i am protesting outside there new spot it wasnt packed everyday atall unknown1992
  • Score: 1

12:42am Wed 20 Aug 14

lilianc says...

unknown1992 wrote:
dee thomas wrote:
i passed there earlier it was a packed house it has been like that since wednesday and all it is doing bringing people in to see a jolly good show
dont lie i was there everyday protesting i am protesting outside there new spot it wasnt packed everyday atall
How can you say it was packed out!? Lol
if you" Passed by" how could you see inside ??
There's been no shows since Sunday

500 seater tent ...with 40 people in the audience! .....Yeah right!!
Probably got some of the "staff" to sit in some random seats!!
[quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dee thomas[/bold] wrote: i passed there earlier it was a packed house it has been like that since wednesday and all it is doing bringing people in to see a jolly good show[/p][/quote]dont lie i was there everyday protesting i am protesting outside there new spot it wasnt packed everyday atall[/p][/quote]How can you say it was packed out!? Lol if you" Passed by" how could you see inside ?? There's been no shows since Sunday 500 seater tent ...with 40 people in the audience! .....Yeah right!! Probably got some of the "staff" to sit in some random seats!! lilianc
  • Score: 2

12:44am Wed 20 Aug 14

lilianc says...

lilianc wrote:
unknown1992 wrote:
dee thomas wrote:
i passed there earlier it was a packed house it has been like that since wednesday and all it is doing bringing people in to see a jolly good show
dont lie i was there everyday protesting i am protesting outside there new spot it wasnt packed everyday atall
How can you say it was packed out!? Lol
if you" Passed by" how could you see inside ??
There's been no shows since Sunday

500 seater tent ...with 40 people in the audience! .....Yeah right!!
Probably got some of the "staff" to sit in some random seats!!
And the Circus has moved anyway....it's not even in WIRRAL!
[quote][p][bold]lilianc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]unknown1992[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dee thomas[/bold] wrote: i passed there earlier it was a packed house it has been like that since wednesday and all it is doing bringing people in to see a jolly good show[/p][/quote]dont lie i was there everyday protesting i am protesting outside there new spot it wasnt packed everyday atall[/p][/quote]How can you say it was packed out!? Lol if you" Passed by" how could you see inside ?? There's been no shows since Sunday 500 seater tent ...with 40 people in the audience! .....Yeah right!! Probably got some of the "staff" to sit in some random seats!![/p][/quote]And the Circus has moved anyway....it's not even in WIRRAL! lilianc
  • Score: 2

3:33pm Wed 20 Aug 14

linkin_ark says...

dee thomas wrote:
i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ?
....Have you heard of planes & ships? They are other forms of transportation other than little cars, which can take you and your family to visit wild animals living happily and peacefully in their natural environment. It would be beneficial to you to climb out of your own box once in awhile and see a little of the real world.

....And no!! We do not want to only see animals in books, but because of selfish, greedy, heartless, small minded humans we will soon have no choice because they will all be extinct!!
[quote][p][bold]dee thomas[/bold] wrote: i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ?[/p][/quote]....Have you heard of planes & ships? They are other forms of transportation other than little cars, which can take you and your family to visit wild animals living happily and peacefully in their natural environment. It would be beneficial to you to climb out of your own box once in awhile and see a little of the real world. ....And no!! We do not want to only see animals in books, but because of selfish, greedy, heartless, small minded humans we will soon have no choice because they will all be extinct!! linkin_ark
  • Score: 3

4:35pm Wed 20 Aug 14

lilianc says...

linkin_ark wrote:
dee thomas wrote:
i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ?
....Have you heard of planes & ships? They are other forms of transportation other than little cars, which can take you and your family to visit wild animals living happily and peacefully in their natural environment. It would be beneficial to you to climb out of your own box once in awhile and see a little of the real world.

....And no!! We do not want to only see animals in books, but because of selfish, greedy, heartless, small minded humans we will soon have no choice because they will all be extinct!!
Me thinks Dee Thomas is a fictitious person....this is the same message that was on the other Wirral Globe page.....and that person supposedly lived in WIRRAL.......The circus has moved !!
And a lot of the protesters are LOCAL TO BOTH AREAS!
[quote][p][bold]linkin_ark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dee thomas[/bold] wrote: i live near where the circus is and we dont even hear them most of the protesters proable dont even live in the area why dont they get back in to their little cars and pester someone else and leave the circus alone the next thing the want to ban is the zoos and they do very good work and let children see the animal as in time children will only see these animals in books is this what the animal rights people want ?[/p][/quote]....Have you heard of planes & ships? They are other forms of transportation other than little cars, which can take you and your family to visit wild animals living happily and peacefully in their natural environment. It would be beneficial to you to climb out of your own box once in awhile and see a little of the real world. ....And no!! We do not want to only see animals in books, but because of selfish, greedy, heartless, small minded humans we will soon have no choice because they will all be extinct!![/p][/quote]Me thinks Dee Thomas is a fictitious person....this is the same message that was on the other Wirral Globe page.....and that person supposedly lived in WIRRAL.......The circus has moved !! And a lot of the protesters are LOCAL TO BOTH AREAS! lilianc
  • Score: 3

11:11am Thu 21 Aug 14

linkin_ark says...

InFavorOfCircus wrote:
People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine!
...Oh dear! Listen to yourself. Can you honestly NOT SEE how ''hypocritical'' your statements are?????

ANIMAL RIGHTS stand for EXACTLY that. Who gives you the right to take away THEIR rights, and FORCE your own depraved desires on them?...You are clearly saying that in YOUR OPINION animals shouldn't have any rights.

...If the animals were well cared for the courts wouldn't feel the need to repeatedly fine circuses for animal neglect and cruelty.

Since you believe the needs of the animals come before that of the humans that hold them captive,...Would you kindly agree to swap places with them?...Not for too long, lets say about a year or two? We could place you in solitary for the best of the day, & bring you out for an hour or two when we reach our destination...Dress you up in ridiculous clothing, and humiliate you in an arena full of like minded people like yourself. Then chain you back up and place you in your dismal, cramped container again. We'll agree to kindly skip the beatings in between,...As I think the time spent on your own, with no stimulation whatsoever will be sufficient enough for reflection. So,...Are you up for the challenge??
[quote][p][bold]InFavorOfCircus[/bold] wrote: People who are in favor of the circus and it's performing animals should have the right to decide to attend or not! Animal rights advocates would force their opinion upon others. Circus animals are loved and well cared for, their needs coming before that of the humans that care for them. I am tired of the abuse of the circus and it's fans at the hands of an elite few who know little to nothing about animals. See the circus...have a jolly good time! The animals are fine![/p][/quote]...Oh dear! Listen to yourself. Can you honestly NOT SEE how ''hypocritical'' your statements are????? ANIMAL RIGHTS stand for EXACTLY that. Who gives you the right to take away THEIR rights, and FORCE your own depraved desires on them?...You are clearly saying that in YOUR OPINION animals shouldn't have any rights. ...If the animals were well cared for the courts wouldn't feel the need to repeatedly fine circuses for animal neglect and cruelty. Since you believe the needs of the animals come before that of the humans that hold them captive,...Would you kindly agree to swap places with them?...Not for too long, lets say about a year or two? We could place you in solitary for the best of the day, & bring you out for an hour or two when we reach our destination...Dress you up in ridiculous clothing, and humiliate you in an arena full of like minded people like yourself. Then chain you back up and place you in your dismal, cramped container again. We'll agree to kindly skip the beatings in between,...As I think the time spent on your own, with no stimulation whatsoever will be sufficient enough for reflection. So,...Are you up for the challenge?? linkin_ark
  • Score: 4

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