Disruption ahead as council workers call second strike

Flashback: Workers on strike at Europa Pools in Birkenhead earlier this month

Flashback: Workers on strike at Europa Pools in Birkenhead earlier this month

First published in News

WIRRAL local government and school support workers are set to join colleagues across England, Wales and Northern Ireland in staging a second day of strike action later this year.

The walkout, scheduled for September 30, follows widespread disruption on July 10 to councils, schools and fire services when more than a million public sector workers mounted strike action.

Trade union Unison urged the Local Government Association to take part in further talks to resolve a pay dispute.

The July 10 walkout saw a substantial number of schools across the borough close, along with libraries, leisure centres, tourist information centres, children’s centres and day centres.

Wirral Council said the action had a “significant impact” on the delivery of its services, including funerals at Landican.

Courts cancelled trials while job centres and tax offices also remained closed.

Unison head of local government Heather Wakefield said: " The strike on July 10 sent a strong message to the employers that local government and school support workers are fed up and angry with being exploited.

"It is a disgrace that so many workers and their families are forced to live on poverty pay.

"There was widespread public support for our members, the majority of whom are low-paid and part-time women workers whose goodwill has been taken for granted for too long."

Schools across England and Wales closed on July 10 and there was disruption to council services, museums and galleries, the fire service, courts, driving test centres, libraries and jobcentres.

In 66 local authorities in England, almost 3,000 schools, nurseries and colleges reported that they had been affected by the walkout, with some forced to close entirely.

Many of these figures did not include academies, which are not under local council control.

Caretakers, teaching assistants and other school staff took part in the action, alongside teachers.

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2:26pm Wed 23 Jul 14

bloodtub says...

who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike
who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike bloodtub
  • Score: -10

2:35pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Thepleb says...

As a former council worker one day strikes just don't work they just punish the low paid who lose a days wage, the unions should be telling their members to work to rule,no extra hours,no doing work not paid to do this would be felt a lot more than a one day strike and no workers would lose their basic pay.
As a former council worker one day strikes just don't work they just punish the low paid who lose a days wage, the unions should be telling their members to work to rule,no extra hours,no doing work not paid to do this would be felt a lot more than a one day strike and no workers would lose their basic pay. Thepleb
  • Score: 14

3:46pm Wed 23 Jul 14

smabo says...

bloodtub wrote:
who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike
If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out?

As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it.
[quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike[/p][/quote]If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out? As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it. smabo
  • Score: 10

10:17am Thu 24 Jul 14

bloodtub says...

smabo wrote:
bloodtub wrote:
who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike
If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out?

As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it.
short term contacts,minimum wages ,zero hours contracts, so how can you strike this is the real world that millions live and work in not the easy world of council workers
[quote][p][bold]smabo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike[/p][/quote]If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out? As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it.[/p][/quote]short term contacts,minimum wages ,zero hours contracts, so how can you strike this is the real world that millions live and work in not the easy world of council workers bloodtub
  • Score: -7

10:26am Thu 24 Jul 14

bloodtub says...

bloodtub wrote:
smabo wrote:
bloodtub wrote:
who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike
If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out?

As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it.
short term contacts,minimum wages ,zero hours contracts, so how can you strike this is the real world that millions live and work in not the easy world of council workers
and what does going on strike do,your there to provide a service so try doing that ,the sooner that you are replaced with private sector firms the better lets see you go no strike then the world has move on but the council and there worker havent time you woke up and see how good you have it
[quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smabo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike[/p][/quote]If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out? As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it.[/p][/quote]short term contacts,minimum wages ,zero hours contracts, so how can you strike this is the real world that millions live and work in not the easy world of council workers[/p][/quote]and what does going on strike do,your there to provide a service so try doing that ,the sooner that you are replaced with private sector firms the better lets see you go no strike then the world has move on but the council and there worker havent time you woke up and see how good you have it bloodtub
  • Score: -8

11:48am Thu 24 Jul 14

spamfiend says...

Thepleb wrote:
As a former council worker one day strikes just don't work they just punish the low paid who lose a days wage, the unions should be telling their members to work to rule,no extra hours,no doing work not paid to do this would be felt a lot more than a one day strike and no workers would lose their basic pay.
Oh well, I lose another days pay because I have to stay at home to loo after the mini me. I am afraid you are starting to lose my sympathies here, because whilst you strike for what you believe, I lose out in other ways.

I understand that I will probably end up with a dozen thumbs down, but that is the price I am wiling to pay for my own pennies worth.

As the quote above says, work to rule etc, but stop causing us hurt for your own cause. My wife works on a 10 hour contract because that's all employers give nowadays. I am lucky to work a 35 hour a week job, but I still work around 50 hours, of which anything over my contract doesn't get paid. I do it because I am really lucky to have a job. I don't have the luxury of having a pension and am to old for the workplace pension to be of any benefit to me when I do retire.

There are other ways to get the message across and this, to me, is not one of them. Oh and by the way, to those idiots waving flags on the road of all places, outside Europa Pools, stay off the road because I might not slow down for you next time!
[quote][p][bold]Thepleb[/bold] wrote: As a former council worker one day strikes just don't work they just punish the low paid who lose a days wage, the unions should be telling their members to work to rule,no extra hours,no doing work not paid to do this would be felt a lot more than a one day strike and no workers would lose their basic pay.[/p][/quote]Oh well, I lose another days pay because I have to stay at home to loo after the mini me. I am afraid you are starting to lose my sympathies here, because whilst you strike for what you believe, I lose out in other ways. I understand that I will probably end up with a dozen thumbs down, but that is the price I am wiling to pay for my own pennies worth. As the quote above says, work to rule etc, but stop causing us hurt for your own cause. My wife works on a 10 hour contract because that's all employers give nowadays. I am lucky to work a 35 hour a week job, but I still work around 50 hours, of which anything over my contract doesn't get paid. I do it because I am really lucky to have a job. I don't have the luxury of having a pension and am to old for the workplace pension to be of any benefit to me when I do retire. There are other ways to get the message across and this, to me, is not one of them. Oh and by the way, to those idiots waving flags on the road of all places, outside Europa Pools, stay off the road because I might not slow down for you next time! spamfiend
  • Score: -3

1:02pm Thu 24 Jul 14

smabo says...

bloodtub wrote:
bloodtub wrote:
smabo wrote:
bloodtub wrote:
who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike
If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out?

As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it.
short term contacts,minimum wages ,zero hours contracts, so how can you strike this is the real world that millions live and work in not the easy world of council workers
and what does going on strike do,your there to provide a service so try doing that ,the sooner that you are replaced with private sector firms the better lets see you go no strike then the world has move on but the council and there worker havent time you woke up and see how good you have it
What, replaced by private sector firms offering the zero hours contracts, short-term contracts and minimum wage that you moan about in your previous message? Yeah, nice one. Excuse me if I'm in no rush to join you in your miserable 'reality'.
[quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smabo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike[/p][/quote]If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out? As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it.[/p][/quote]short term contacts,minimum wages ,zero hours contracts, so how can you strike this is the real world that millions live and work in not the easy world of council workers[/p][/quote]and what does going on strike do,your there to provide a service so try doing that ,the sooner that you are replaced with private sector firms the better lets see you go no strike then the world has move on but the council and there worker havent time you woke up and see how good you have it[/p][/quote]What, replaced by private sector firms offering the zero hours contracts, short-term contracts and minimum wage that you moan about in your previous message? Yeah, nice one. Excuse me if I'm in no rush to join you in your miserable 'reality'. smabo
  • Score: 4

1:35pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Roadkill says...

bloodtub wrote:
bloodtub wrote:
smabo wrote:
bloodtub wrote:
who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike
If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out?

As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it.
short term contacts,minimum wages ,zero hours contracts, so how can you strike this is the real world that millions live and work in not the easy world of council workers
and what does going on strike do,your there to provide a service so try doing that ,the sooner that you are replaced with private sector firms the better lets see you go no strike then the world has move on but the council and there worker havent time you woke up and see how good you have it
Everyone provides a service, self-employed and private workers, too.

I think your attitude stinks. What will you do, I wonder, when you need to go running to your union (presuming you work, of course, and are not simply spouting your pious remarks from the top of an ivory tower in some leafy suburban area inhabited by Tory-voting, retired folk) or ACAS when your employer turns gangster on you.
[quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smabo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bloodtub[/bold] wrote: who cares if you strike, self employed cant strike they dont get a pay rise ,private sector workers dont get pay rises they cant strike[/p][/quote]If you're self-employed you pay yourself what you can afford. If you can't afford to live on what you pay yourself as your own boss, then maybe you should think about whether your business is really working out? As for private sector workers, if they're in a unionised workplace, then of course they can go on strike if they believe they have grounds for it.[/p][/quote]short term contacts,minimum wages ,zero hours contracts, so how can you strike this is the real world that millions live and work in not the easy world of council workers[/p][/quote]and what does going on strike do,your there to provide a service so try doing that ,the sooner that you are replaced with private sector firms the better lets see you go no strike then the world has move on but the council and there worker havent time you woke up and see how good you have it[/p][/quote]Everyone provides a service, self-employed and private workers, too. I think your attitude stinks. What will you do, I wonder, when you need to go running to your union (presuming you work, of course, and are not simply spouting your pious remarks from the top of an ivory tower in some leafy suburban area inhabited by Tory-voting, retired folk) or ACAS when your employer turns gangster on you. Roadkill
  • Score: 2

2:21pm Thu 24 Jul 14

tiprat says...

Unison head of local government Heather Wakefield said...

I'd be interested to learn how much she gets paid!
Unison head of local government Heather Wakefield said... I'd be interested to learn how much she gets paid! tiprat
  • Score: 0

5:20pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Thepleb says...

If I was still a council member I wouldn't be paying my union dues as they have ceased to exist for the members and look after themselves first, the main men walked last year after tip offs from senior council officers that there was no fight to fight as cuts were coming now the union delegates with the council who is getting cut in line with newspaper headlines, like I previously said work to rule and only carry out the role you are paid to do and no extra hours make the suits work the manual jobs and see how long it is before they find the extra dosh stuffed inside Wallasey Town hall mattresses.
If I was still a council member I wouldn't be paying my union dues as they have ceased to exist for the members and look after themselves first, the main men walked last year after tip offs from senior council officers that there was no fight to fight as cuts were coming now the union delegates with the council who is getting cut in line with newspaper headlines, like I previously said work to rule and only carry out the role you are paid to do and no extra hours make the suits work the manual jobs and see how long it is before they find the extra dosh stuffed inside Wallasey Town hall mattresses. Thepleb
  • Score: 3

7:49pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Joeblogg85 says...

spamfiend wrote:
Thepleb wrote:
As a former council worker one day strikes just don't work they just punish the low paid who lose a days wage, the unions should be telling their members to work to rule,no extra hours,no doing work not paid to do this would be felt a lot more than a one day strike and no workers would lose their basic pay.
Oh well, I lose another days pay because I have to stay at home to loo after the mini me. I am afraid you are starting to lose my sympathies here, because whilst you strike for what you believe, I lose out in other ways.

I understand that I will probably end up with a dozen thumbs down, but that is the price I am wiling to pay for my own pennies worth.

As the quote above says, work to rule etc, but stop causing us hurt for your own cause. My wife works on a 10 hour contract because that's all employers give nowadays. I am lucky to work a 35 hour a week job, but I still work around 50 hours, of which anything over my contract doesn't get paid. I do it because I am really lucky to have a job. I don't have the luxury of having a pension and am to old for the workplace pension to be of any benefit to me when I do retire.

There are other ways to get the message across and this, to me, is not one of them. Oh and by the way, to those idiots waving flags on the road of all places, outside Europa Pools, stay off the road because I might not slow down for you next time!
If I read this correctly, you work 15 hours every week for nothing! Wow, never heard of that before. Isn't that illegal? Shouldn't your employer be paying you at least the minimum wage?
[quote][p][bold]spamfiend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thepleb[/bold] wrote: As a former council worker one day strikes just don't work they just punish the low paid who lose a days wage, the unions should be telling their members to work to rule,no extra hours,no doing work not paid to do this would be felt a lot more than a one day strike and no workers would lose their basic pay.[/p][/quote]Oh well, I lose another days pay because I have to stay at home to loo after the mini me. I am afraid you are starting to lose my sympathies here, because whilst you strike for what you believe, I lose out in other ways. I understand that I will probably end up with a dozen thumbs down, but that is the price I am wiling to pay for my own pennies worth. As the quote above says, work to rule etc, but stop causing us hurt for your own cause. My wife works on a 10 hour contract because that's all employers give nowadays. I am lucky to work a 35 hour a week job, but I still work around 50 hours, of which anything over my contract doesn't get paid. I do it because I am really lucky to have a job. I don't have the luxury of having a pension and am to old for the workplace pension to be of any benefit to me when I do retire. There are other ways to get the message across and this, to me, is not one of them. Oh and by the way, to those idiots waving flags on the road of all places, outside Europa Pools, stay off the road because I might not slow down for you next time![/p][/quote]If I read this correctly, you work 15 hours every week for nothing! Wow, never heard of that before. Isn't that illegal? Shouldn't your employer be paying you at least the minimum wage? Joeblogg85
  • Score: 0

10:24pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Positive thinker says...

Disruption ahead! They couldn't disrupt a kids tea party
Disruption ahead! They couldn't disrupt a kids tea party Positive thinker
  • Score: 1

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