Future of Ingleborough playing field to be decided next week

Wirral Globe: Ingleborough field's future to be decided on Wednesday Ingleborough field's future to be decided on Wednesday

CONTROVERSIAL plans to transform Tranmere Rovers' former training ground into a housing estate are expected to be approved by Wirral's planning committee next week.

The club has asked Wirral Council for permission to sell its Ingleborough Road site in Birkenhead, to make way for development of 90 houses.

The scheme, recommended for approval by planning officers on Wednesday, goes hand-in-hand with a parallel application to create four full-sized football pitches plus one junior academy pitch and one training area on land near the Solar Campus in Leasowe Road, Leasowe.

The schemes have the support of the club's supporters' trust, who recently said development would be in the interests of the community, the club and supporters.

But campaigners say the proposals are 'disrespectful' to the memories of Wirral soldiers killed in the First World War, who have been honoured with a plaque. They have campaigned for the last four years against the plan.

Ingleborough field is a dedicated memorial to 88 former students of Birkenhead Institute who lost their lives in the First World War, among them the renowned war poet Wilfred Owen, who was educated at the school.

Eighty-eight trees representing the fallen soldiers were planted around the field as a "living memorial" to them in the 1920s. The development proposals include a memorial plaque to the 88 men.

A decision over the scheme has been delayed three times in the last two years, Rovers' also withdrew their original application in February 2012 before later re-submitting it.

Among the campaigners is Dean Johnson. He told the Globe: "The council seems Hell-bent on getting this through.

"There are people living near Ingleborough who don't want this application to be approved. The plans just seem to have been cobbled together.

"Ingleborough is a memorial for 2014 and these plans are disrespectful. The sale of the land would be a short-term fix for Tranmere, but wouldn't solve their problems long-term."

Mr Johnson continued: "The Birkenhead Institute Old Boys have made a concerted effort over the last year to stop this development from going ahead.

"It's been such a personal issue that's caused so much upset and has really galvanised us.

"We have even offered to buy the field and have tried to speak to the club about this, but have been ignored.

"The Open golf has shone a great light on Wirral, but the treatment of Ingleborough is the other side of the coin.

"It's downright disrespectful and reflects badly on Wirral. There's been no sensitive discussion. It's just been a fight."

The Globe has contacted Tranmere Rovers and is awaiting its response.

A council spokesperson said: "It would not be appropriate to comment ahead of the Planning Committee meeting where these plans – and all representations received in relation to them – will be given full consideration."

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8:26pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Lurkinhead says...

Questions:

1) Craig Manning, do you know Dean Johnson socially?
2) Dean Johnson, when you say "There are people living near Ingleborough who don't want this application to be approved", can you quantify that please? Do you have information that this is the majority of local residents, and how near is "near"?
3) Dean Johnson, when you say "We have even offered to buy the field and have tried to speak to the club about this, but have been ignored", would you seriously expect Tranmere Rovers to engage with you after all your antics? (e.g. photoshopped war graves, a pox upon thine house, Kiln Walby, Asda etc). Whatever your convictions, your conduct has left a great deal to be desired, and your arguments have not demonstrated balance.



As a regular correspondent in the Globe during this debate, I 'll put my cards on the table. I'm not happy about the Woodchurch proposal being withdrawn and replaced by Leasowe. That said, regarding the substantive issue, it has been debated ad nauseam on here, and I have little to add at this point.

However, I would conclude by registering my disappointment at what I perceive as a lack of balance shown by The Globe during the whole Ingleborough debate. Whilst the subjective views of Dean Johnson, borne out of his opportunistic and relentless attention-seeking and attempts at self-promotion, can perhaps be understood and dismissed for what they are, there is a very important debate here , with legitimate points of view on both sides. The Globe has attempted to provide a facade of neutrality, but I believe personal friendships have compromised objectivity, and that is regrettable.
Questions: 1) Craig Manning, do you know Dean Johnson socially? 2) Dean Johnson, when you say "There are people living near Ingleborough who don't want this application to be approved", can you quantify that please? Do you have information that this is the majority of local residents, and how near is "near"? 3) Dean Johnson, when you say "We have even offered to buy the field and have tried to speak to the club about this, but have been ignored", would you seriously expect Tranmere Rovers to engage with you after all your antics? (e.g. photoshopped war graves, a pox upon thine house, Kiln Walby, Asda etc). Whatever your convictions, your conduct has left a great deal to be desired, and your arguments have not demonstrated balance. As a regular correspondent in the Globe during this debate, I 'll put my cards on the table. I'm not happy about the Woodchurch proposal being withdrawn and replaced by Leasowe. That said, regarding the substantive issue, it has been debated ad nauseam on here, and I have little to add at this point. However, I would conclude by registering my disappointment at what I perceive as a lack of balance shown by The Globe during the whole Ingleborough debate. Whilst the subjective views of Dean Johnson, borne out of his opportunistic and relentless attention-seeking and attempts at self-promotion, can perhaps be understood and dismissed for what they are, there is a very important debate here , with legitimate points of view on both sides. The Globe has attempted to provide a facade of neutrality, but I believe personal friendships have compromised objectivity, and that is regrettable. Lurkinhead
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12:38pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Gingerthinker says...

Lurkinhead, an excellent response to yet another publicity promo for Dean Johnson masquerading as an objective Wirral Globe piece on Ingleborough.

I can't understand how they get away with it time after time...

And now the saga continues because the councillors didn't think to visit the proposed development site in Leasowe, BEFORE they attended the meeting to discuss it. An odd way to approach an important issue.

Of course this further delay will give Mr DJ more opportunities for self promotion...he's probably rubbing his hands as I type.

The benefits to the communities involved and to the memory of the fallen, (the proposed very fitting, new memorial), should surely outweigh the few objections that have been raised, including those objections that have been put forward with integrity.

My fingers are crossed, and I'm hoping for a successful outcome for the many people across Wirral who will benefit from the proposals..
Lurkinhead, an excellent response to yet another publicity promo for Dean Johnson masquerading as an objective Wirral Globe piece on Ingleborough. I can't understand how they get away with it time after time... And now the saga continues because the councillors didn't think to visit the proposed development site in Leasowe, BEFORE they attended the meeting to discuss it. An odd way to approach an important issue. Of course this further delay will give Mr DJ more opportunities for self promotion...he's probably rubbing his hands as I type. The benefits to the communities involved and to the memory of the fallen, (the proposed very fitting, new memorial), should surely outweigh the few objections that have been raised, including those objections that have been put forward with integrity. My fingers are crossed, and I'm hoping for a successful outcome for the many people across Wirral who will benefit from the proposals.. Gingerthinker
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2:09pm Thu 24 Jul 14

freebase says...

typical of the globe to run a new piece on the story updating it but not to have a comments page.

a letter has gonne of to the PCC levenson was right you are all a bunch of hacks
typical of the globe to run a new piece on the story updating it but not to have a comments page. a letter has gonne of to the PCC levenson was right you are all a bunch of hacks freebase
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10:13am Mon 4 Aug 14

uncatom says...

Lurkinhead, good morning, a number of the points you have raised work both ways, the focus of all the angst and disagreement appear to centre around DJ, and whilst I am in agreement with your comments about the photo shop business and the oft quoted pox on thine house quote, it doesn't excuse TRFC from not actively engaging in talks to try and resolve the outstanding issues, after all as I have said many times TRFC is a business, If the boot was on the other foot and TRFC wanted to purchase from DJ, I am sure they would ignore the remarks because that's what business is about, what is the old adage "there is no sentiment in business" a quote which at the present time fits TRFC like a glove, and the old I am not talking to you because you were nasty doesn't quite fit the bill.

Apparently there is a very fitting memorial, how do we know this? lots of people have agreed / not agreed to the building, how do we know this ? most of it is based on conjecture, there are valid points from both sides so why don't the two sides meet and be open in the interests of all parties ?
Lurkinhead, good morning, a number of the points you have raised work both ways, the focus of all the angst and disagreement appear to centre around DJ, and whilst I am in agreement with your comments about the photo shop business and the oft quoted pox on thine house quote, it doesn't excuse TRFC from not actively engaging in talks to try and resolve the outstanding issues, after all as I have said many times TRFC is a business, If the boot was on the other foot and TRFC wanted to purchase from DJ, I am sure they would ignore the remarks because that's what business is about, what is the old adage "there is no sentiment in business" a quote which at the present time fits TRFC like a glove, and the old I am not talking to you because you were nasty doesn't quite fit the bill. Apparently there is a very fitting memorial, how do we know this? lots of people have agreed / not agreed to the building, how do we know this ? most of it is based on conjecture, there are valid points from both sides so why don't the two sides meet and be open in the interests of all parties ? uncatom
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