Wirral needs more intelligence on 'help to work' scheme

Wirral Globe: Wirral council leader Phil Davies Wirral council leader Phil Davies

WIRRAL Council's stance on the new "Help to Work" programme will be decided when more intelligence on the scheme is available, leader Cllr Phil Davies insisted today.

Liverpool Council boycotted the scheme within hours of its launch by Minister of State for Employment Esther McVey, the Wirral West MP.

Jobseekers who have been unemployed for more than two years will now have to sign on every day, undergo intensive training of work for six months unpaid.

Cllr Davies said: "We need to do something to get people back into work – but not to the extent of people having to work for nothing.

"I am trying to find out exactly what this programme entails and if we should get involved before we decide our position.

"I am working with our economic development tea and liaising with the works and pensions department , who co-ordinated this, to see what further intelligence there is.”

Charities including Oxfam, the YMCA and Salvation Army have joined Liverpool Council in refusing to take part in the scheme.

City Cllr Nick Small said: "It is wrong that people should be forced to do so-called voluntary work or face losing their benefits. But it's also not an effective way of getting people back to work."

A Works and Pensions Department spokeswoman said today that 70 local organisations had signed up to participate in the scheme.

She said: "A lot of organisations see the benefits for job seekers and the local community.

"The scheme is about supporting very long term-unemployed people whose main barriers to gaining work will be lack of experience.

"Help to Work will help long-term claimants get the skills and experience to need to get back into work."

She added: "We understand there are people who don’t want to be involved and it is their prerogative to do so.

"But I can't see their lack of involvement making any impact on the programme."

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1:50pm Tue 29 Apr 14

JimmyMercury says...

If you genuinely are a Labour man Councillor Davies, you will have nothing to do with this further attack on the weakest. There should be no thinking about it. This country is a disgrace and degenerating into a third world country with its disintegrating roads, litter, and general break down of society, all because this coalition says there is no money while experts say there is. Pay people to work and they will. Carry on like this and all you will get is extremism, right or left!
If you genuinely are a Labour man Councillor Davies, you will have nothing to do with this further attack on the weakest. There should be no thinking about it. This country is a disgrace and degenerating into a third world country with its disintegrating roads, litter, and general break down of society, all because this coalition says there is no money while experts say there is. Pay people to work and they will. Carry on like this and all you will get is extremism, right or left! JimmyMercury
  • Score: -1

2:35pm Tue 29 Apr 14

ballacrain says...

Next will be the reintroduction of the workhouse. Have nothing to do with this scheme.
Next will be the reintroduction of the workhouse. Have nothing to do with this scheme. ballacrain
  • Score: 0

3:08pm Tue 29 Apr 14

pcs1980 says...

JimmyMercury wrote:
If you genuinely are a Labour man Councillor Davies, you will have nothing to do with this further attack on the weakest. There should be no thinking about it. This country is a disgrace and degenerating into a third world country with its disintegrating roads, litter, and general break down of society, all because this coalition says there is no money while experts say there is. Pay people to work and they will. Carry on like this and all you will get is extremism, right or left!
Totally agree, Charities including Oxfam, the YMCA and Salvation Army have refused to take part in the scheme, these organisations depend on volunteers to do the great work they do, yet they refuse to back the scheme.
@ Cllr Phil Davies stop sitting on the fence, you either agree or disagree.
You have been selected to lead wirral Labour Party & elected as council leader, so lead & stop dithering and following the flock.
[quote][p][bold]JimmyMercury[/bold] wrote: If you genuinely are a Labour man Councillor Davies, you will have nothing to do with this further attack on the weakest. There should be no thinking about it. This country is a disgrace and degenerating into a third world country with its disintegrating roads, litter, and general break down of society, all because this coalition says there is no money while experts say there is. Pay people to work and they will. Carry on like this and all you will get is extremism, right or left![/p][/quote]Totally agree, Charities including Oxfam, the YMCA and Salvation Army have refused to take part in the scheme, these organisations depend on volunteers to do the great work they do, yet they refuse to back the scheme. @ Cllr Phil Davies stop sitting on the fence, you either agree or disagree. You have been selected to lead wirral Labour Party & elected as council leader, so lead & stop dithering and following the flock. pcs1980
  • Score: -1

4:13pm Tue 29 Apr 14

bigfoot says...

Don't all you nay sayers relise that Councillor Davies and his cronies are starting to run scared on the run up to elections.
It starts with the EU elections and then on to local and general elections in 12 months time
Don't all you nay sayers relise that Councillor Davies and his cronies are starting to run scared on the run up to elections. It starts with the EU elections and then on to local and general elections in 12 months time bigfoot
  • Score: -9

1:08pm Wed 30 Apr 14

pooboy says...

People who have been unemployed for over 2 years should of course be made to do something to assist the country.
I have never been unemployed in my life,been on a YTS,scraped human faeces off the floor,cleaned toilets,been threatened with a knife,all jobs that have ensured my family gets a meal on the table.
There are jobs out there,you just have to look for them.
Anyone over 2 years out of work should be painting council fences,mowing the grass,picking up litter,scrape gum off the pavements,clean public toilets,basically anything to assist the country in being a better place to live.If they dont like it,dont pay them their benefits,simple as that.100% correct this decision.
People who have been unemployed for over 2 years should of course be made to do something to assist the country. I have never been unemployed in my life,been on a YTS,scraped human faeces off the floor,cleaned toilets,been threatened with a knife,all jobs that have ensured my family gets a meal on the table. There are jobs out there,you just have to look for them. Anyone over 2 years out of work should be painting council fences,mowing the grass,picking up litter,scrape gum off the pavements,clean public toilets,basically anything to assist the country in being a better place to live.If they dont like it,dont pay them their benefits,simple as that.100% correct this decision. pooboy
  • Score: 11

8:50pm Sat 3 May 14

David Scott says...

As I see it, it is reasonable to expect people on long-term benefits to have to work or be in training, but at the same time the government should be controlling how many people can come into this country to work (as happens in Australia, USA, Canada, Japan, etc.) .
As I see it, it is reasonable to expect people on long-term benefits to have to work or be in training, but at the same time the government should be controlling how many people can come into this country to work (as happens in Australia, USA, Canada, Japan, etc.) . David Scott
  • Score: -1

10:40am Mon 5 May 14

Wirralrob says...

I have witnessed for myself Jobcentre staff advising a female claimant she must attend a signing on session 'regardless' of a corporate job fair event taking place she wanted to attend.

Despite the officer facing disciplinary action and the centre manager involved issuing an apology, this kind of stupidity still goes on at many job centres. Any competent, experienced job centre advisor should be able to work out which candidates are out running round job interviews and which candidates are indeed sat on their laurels.

A competent government would consider setting up employers which offer stand-up basic paid jobs to those who really want to work. Shutting down the likes of Remploy was a stupid mistake which has cost us more in the long run - all that was needed was a thorough restructure of the business.
I have witnessed for myself Jobcentre staff advising a female claimant she must attend a signing on session 'regardless' of a corporate job fair event taking place she wanted to attend. Despite the officer facing disciplinary action and the centre manager involved issuing an apology, this kind of stupidity still goes on at many job centres. Any competent, experienced job centre advisor should be able to work out which candidates are out running round job interviews and which candidates are indeed sat on their laurels. A competent government would consider setting up employers which offer stand-up basic paid jobs to those who really want to work. Shutting down the likes of Remploy was a stupid mistake which has cost us more in the long run - all that was needed was a thorough restructure of the business. Wirralrob
  • Score: 3

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