Wirral dad left fuming over parent and toddler parking fine

Wirral Globe: Sharron and Adrian Stott, with their daughter Mia, are "appalled" at being fined for parking in a parent and toddler space. Sharron and Adrian Stott, with their daughter Mia, are "appalled" at being fined for parking in a parent and toddler space.

A WIRRAL dad says he is “appalled” with a private parking firm that landed his wife with a parking ticket as she shopped for baby supplies in Liscard.

Adrian Stott, from Wallasey, contacted the Globe after he was left fuming at ANPR Ltd for issuing the ticket to his wife Sharron on March 27.

The 41-year-old had been into Cherry Tree Shopping Centre to pick up items for the couple’s five-month-old baby Mia but when she returned, she discovered her BMW had been slapped with a penalty notice and would have to pay £100, or £50 if paid within 14 days.

Sharron had parked in a parent and toddler space, something husband Adrian says she was entitled to do because she had Mia with her.

“When she went back to the car she saw the ticket,” explained 39-year-old Adrian.

“At first she thought it was for going over the time but when she checked her ticket, it was for two hours.”

When Sharron opened the parking ticket she realised it was for parking in the parent and toddler bay with no child.

“We spoke to them and they said there wasn’t a child seat so they assumed there was no child but the child seat is one of those that you take out and attach to the pram, so she had taken it with her.”

Adrian told the Globe he asked to see CCTV footage of the incident but he says he was told that was not possible.

“I am absolutely appalled at how they have dealt with this,” said Adrian.

“Sharron appealed against the ticket and they sent a letter back straight away to say she is still being fined.”

“People are being fined for parking in a child space when they actually have a child – how many others have had to pay?”

“She was only parked there for nine minutes – she had just gone to get baby things and do a little shop.”

Being able to park in the parent and toddler space is a “God send” to the Stott family, who say they rely on it when they have their daughter with them.

“I just think it’s absolutely appalling and I want people to realise what these people are doing – they shouldn’t get away with it - it is absolutely disgraceful.

“How are you supposed to prove that you have a child with you? They should have a permit for parents like they do for disabled people.”

A spokesman for ANPR Ltd told the Globe the site is monitored at all times to ensure “fair play”.

“If a child had been present we would not have issued a ticket and had a child returned, the ticket would have been quashed,” explained the spokesman.

“Normally [the motorist] will telephone us when they are on site and we will send an attendant within minutes who can verify that a child is present.

“We received no such phone call in this instance and we have no evidence that suggests that we are in the wrong.”

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10:57am Fri 4 Apr 14

WirralAl says...

Simple answer to this.

Don't park in Liscard as the council are doing their best to make sure that the shops close down despite shop keepers paying a fortune in council tax. so people shop in Asda or Tesco. You could of saved £1.00
Simple answer to this. Don't park in Liscard as the council are doing their best to make sure that the shops close down despite shop keepers paying a fortune in council tax. so people shop in Asda or Tesco. You could of saved £1.00 WirralAl
  • Score: 20

10:57am Fri 4 Apr 14

Queijo says...

Don't pay it. Burden of proof is on them.
Don't pay it. Burden of proof is on them. Queijo
  • Score: 42

11:08am Fri 4 Apr 14

bigfoot says...

Its not a fine,its an invoice, These cowboy 'parking' firms should be stopped, They are making money from motorists and destroying the local economy, They wonder why people are shopping in retail parks.
RIP the high street
Its not a fine,its an invoice, These cowboy 'parking' firms should be stopped, They are making money from motorists and destroying the local economy, They wonder why people are shopping in retail parks. RIP the high street bigfoot
  • Score: 46

11:14am Fri 4 Apr 14

ballacrain says...

T6hey have cCCTV footage but will not admit they are wrong.Do as has previously been said, do not pay it,let them prove you did not have a child with you.
T6hey have cCCTV footage but will not admit they are wrong.Do as has previously been said, do not pay it,let them prove you did not have a child with you. ballacrain
  • Score: 34

11:23am Fri 4 Apr 14

JohnON says...

http://www.popla.org
.uk/makinganappeal.h
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http://www.popla.org .uk/makinganappeal.h tm JohnON
  • Score: 13

11:31am Fri 4 Apr 14

Joeblogg85 says...

I would just ignore them and let them prove it at Court. I'm pretty sure this lot will not want the negative publicity. Good luck with it.
I would just ignore them and let them prove it at Court. I'm pretty sure this lot will not want the negative publicity. Good luck with it. Joeblogg85
  • Score: 28

12:25pm Fri 4 Apr 14

davejuls says...

This fine is not inforceable go onto moneysavingexpert parking fines anpr are scam artists please pass this on to the driver just ignore fine
This fine is not inforceable go onto moneysavingexpert parking fines anpr are scam artists please pass this on to the driver just ignore fine davejuls
  • Score: 28

2:08pm Fri 4 Apr 14

JimmyMercury says...

No one ever wins appeals with these people. As stated ignore them. Google Pepipoo if you need expert advice. Cherry tree is a private car park and nothing to do with the council btw.
No one ever wins appeals with these people. As stated ignore them. Google Pepipoo if you need expert advice. Cherry tree is a private car park and nothing to do with the council btw. JimmyMercury
  • Score: 18

4:40pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Llamedos 1 says...

Yes, all good advice.....the invoices are made to look like official penalty charge notices deliberately to make motorists think they are official fines......believe us, they are not. Check up on www.peipoo.com where there is excellent advice on how to deal with these crooks....DO NOT PAY UP.....to be honest I would advise anyone receiving a council PCN not to pay it either until you have checked out the the legality of the bay markings and signage.....you can bet your bottom dollar the council have Non Compliant markings and signs......similarly check the actual legislation on Pepipoo
Yes, all good advice.....the invoices are made to look like official penalty charge notices deliberately to make motorists think they are official fines......believe us, they are not. Check up on www.peipoo.com where there is excellent advice on how to deal with these crooks....DO NOT PAY UP.....to be honest I would advise anyone receiving a council PCN not to pay it either until you have checked out the the legality of the bay markings and signage.....you can bet your bottom dollar the council have Non Compliant markings and signs......similarly check the actual legislation on Pepipoo Llamedos 1
  • Score: 14

2:16am Sat 5 Apr 14

69716971 says...

dont pay it its discusting when i have seen people park in 2 bays and not get a ticket on at least one ocasion i have seen someone complain about a young girl park in a parent and child with no children and they were told they couldnt give her a ticket as they could no prove she didnt have a child with her and she had no child with her these spaces are for people with children with them like you
dont pay it its discusting when i have seen people park in 2 bays and not get a ticket on at least one ocasion i have seen someone complain about a young girl park in a parent and child with no children and they were told they couldnt give her a ticket as they could no prove she didnt have a child with her and she had no child with her these spaces are for people with children with them like you 69716971
  • Score: 13

1:21pm Sat 5 Apr 14

euroedm says...

In this case let them take you to court or taking it up with POPLA . Civil cases are judged on the balance of probability. In this case mother with a small child, more than likely she would have the child with her. So they will loose.

http://www.popla.org
.uk/makinganappeal.h
tm

In most cases ticket are enforceable, but this is one of those cases where they would have to prove you did not have the child with you.
In this case let them take you to court or taking it up with POPLA . Civil cases are judged on the balance of probability. In this case mother with a small child, more than likely she would have the child with her. So they will loose. http://www.popla.org .uk/makinganappeal.h tm In most cases ticket are enforceable, but this is one of those cases where they would have to prove you did not have the child with you. euroedm
  • Score: 10

1:42pm Sat 5 Apr 14

bigfoot says...

PaulCa wrote:
These crooks operate in the shadows. It's the kind of "free and competitive market" that will quickly receive the blessing of whoever's in power, locally or centrally - because they're cash rich, and wealthy enough to lobby or give kickbacks to the troughers.

No matter the fact that most of it was stolen in modern day acts of "Stand and Deliver" such as this.
Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask!
[quote][p][bold]PaulCa[/bold] wrote: These crooks operate in the shadows. It's the kind of "free and competitive market" that will quickly receive the blessing of whoever's in power, locally or centrally - because they're cash rich, and wealthy enough to lobby or give kickbacks to the troughers. No matter the fact that most of it was stolen in modern day acts of "Stand and Deliver" such as this.[/p][/quote]Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask! bigfoot
  • Score: 9

2:01pm Sat 5 Apr 14

yesandorno says...

stupid charge .
good that child spaces are being patrolled cos people do abuse them.
but thats a stupid charge
dont pay it
stupid charge . good that child spaces are being patrolled cos people do abuse them. but thats a stupid charge dont pay it yesandorno
  • Score: 9

3:05pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Westerly9 says...

I've had 2 tickets from these scam artists. Ignored every threatening letter they sent and they eventually stopped.

Examples here http://forums.pepipo
o.com/
I've had 2 tickets from these scam artists. Ignored every threatening letter they sent and they eventually stopped. Examples here http://forums.pepipo o.com/ Westerly9
  • Score: 10

4:13pm Sat 5 Apr 14

tiddlytuts says...

I parked with my son and I am disabled I was told I had to park in a disabled bay I was not allowed in a parent bay. I have ignored the ticket no chance they will get a penny from me
I parked with my son and I am disabled I was told I had to park in a disabled bay I was not allowed in a parent bay. I have ignored the ticket no chance they will get a penny from me tiddlytuts
  • Score: 12

10:16pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Dave the Dog says...

Karma happens:

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Karma happens: https://scontent-b-l hr.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho tos-frc1/t1.0-9/1002 673_719194061436221_ 1642746131_n.jpg Dave the Dog
  • Score: 1

1:40pm Sun 6 Apr 14

GwynneT says...

Come on Mr. Pickles you keep saying your going to ban these pathetic mobile cctv cars,as usual the council are picking on the wrong people, SHAME ON YOU WBC, appeal ! appeal ! appeal !
Come on Mr. Pickles you keep saying your going to ban these pathetic mobile cctv cars,as usual the council are picking on the wrong people, SHAME ON YOU WBC, appeal ! appeal ! appeal ! GwynneT
  • Score: 7

11:08am Wed 9 Apr 14

B Daly says...

Nice car maybe thats the true reason why you got a ticket.
If you had parked in a disabled bay you would have displayed a blue badge there is no such badge for parent and toddler so you now have to wait at your expense and trouble for a parking attendant to observe that you have a small child or would they just prefer it if you displayed the baby in your windscreen while you shop.
If you are held for theft and it is discovered they are wrong you can sue so why not sue a private company for incorrectly giving you a fine and they can show in a court of law what right they have in giving out fines and for once they will be the one facing a hefty fine.
Nice car maybe thats the true reason why you got a ticket. If you had parked in a disabled bay you would have displayed a blue badge there is no such badge for parent and toddler so you now have to wait at your expense and trouble for a parking attendant to observe that you have a small child or would they just prefer it if you displayed the baby in your windscreen while you shop. If you are held for theft and it is discovered they are wrong you can sue so why not sue a private company for incorrectly giving you a fine and they can show in a court of law what right they have in giving out fines and for once they will be the one facing a hefty fine. B Daly
  • Score: 3

1:16pm Wed 9 Apr 14

rover600 says...

Will you stop referring to these as FINES, they are NOT, it is a parking charge for 'allegedly breaching the terms of a contract that you allegedly entered into when parking on private property, even though you like thousands of others never entered into or agreed to any contract". Point blank I would right back and inform them you will see them in court, include a separate piece of paper as an invoice for say £40.00 for your administrative costs' and tell them you will enforce payment of that through the courts if necessary. The only way to fight bullies is to play them at their own game. go to peppipoo.com where you will get some good advice on this 'scam'... If they right back, respond again and again include an administration charge.If they keep upping your so called 'fine' then double your administration charge to double their 'fine'....
Will you stop referring to these as FINES, they are NOT, it is a parking charge for 'allegedly breaching the terms of a contract that you allegedly entered into when parking on private property, even though you like thousands of others never entered into or agreed to any contract". Point blank I would right back and inform them you will see them in court, include a separate piece of paper as an invoice for say £40.00 for your administrative costs' and tell them you will enforce payment of that through the courts if necessary. The only way to fight bullies is to play them at their own game. go to peppipoo.com where you will get some good advice on this 'scam'... If they right back, respond again and again include an administration charge.If they keep upping your so called 'fine' then double your administration charge to double their 'fine'.... rover600
  • Score: 4

3:13pm Wed 9 Apr 14

B Daly says...

Nice idea but until they go to court and LOSE they will ply there trade and make millions out of us the people.

Fight back and win and they all go away.
Nice idea but until they go to court and LOSE they will ply there trade and make millions out of us the people. Fight back and win and they all go away. B Daly
  • Score: 3

1:20pm Thu 10 Apr 14

rover600 says...

rover600 wrote:
Will you stop referring to these as FINES, they are NOT, it is a parking charge for 'allegedly breaching the terms of a contract that you allegedly entered into when parking on private property, even though you like thousands of others never entered into or agreed to any contract". Point blank I would right back and inform them you will see them in court, include a separate piece of paper as an invoice for say £40.00 for your administrative costs' and tell them you will enforce payment of that through the courts if necessary. The only way to fight bullies is to play them at their own game. go to peppipoo.com where you will get some good advice on this 'scam'... If they right back, respond again and again include an administration charge.If they keep upping your so called 'fine' then double your administration charge to double their 'fine'....
Right (back)? tut tut 'write'...
[quote][p][bold]rover600[/bold] wrote: Will you stop referring to these as FINES, they are NOT, it is a parking charge for 'allegedly breaching the terms of a contract that you allegedly entered into when parking on private property, even though you like thousands of others never entered into or agreed to any contract". Point blank I would right back and inform them you will see them in court, include a separate piece of paper as an invoice for say £40.00 for your administrative costs' and tell them you will enforce payment of that through the courts if necessary. The only way to fight bullies is to play them at their own game. go to peppipoo.com where you will get some good advice on this 'scam'... If they right back, respond again and again include an administration charge.If they keep upping your so called 'fine' then double your administration charge to double their 'fine'....[/p][/quote]Right (back)? tut tut 'write'... rover600
  • Score: 3

5:44pm Thu 10 Apr 14

monmar says...

Do not pay we have to make a stand against these cowboys. Same thing happened to me and I'm now being threatened with court action and the charge has now gone up to 140. Will see them in court.
Do not pay we have to make a stand against these cowboys. Same thing happened to me and I'm now being threatened with court action and the charge has now gone up to 140. Will see them in court. monmar
  • Score: 4

5:50pm Thu 10 Apr 14

monmar says...

By the way I confronted the parking attendant at the time he was writing the ticket out and I had my grandson with me at the time. He said it was too late he couldn't cancel the ticket cos he'd already written it out. I was parked for 7 minutes.
By the way I confronted the parking attendant at the time he was writing the ticket out and I had my grandson with me at the time. He said it was too late he couldn't cancel the ticket cos he'd already written it out. I was parked for 7 minutes. monmar
  • Score: 4

5:54pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Chirrup says...

Go straight to the websites dedicated to fighting these speculative invoices AND WINNING!. http://forums.pepipo
o.com
Go straight to the websites dedicated to fighting these speculative invoices AND WINNING!. http://forums.pepipo o.com Chirrup
  • Score: 4

11:10am Wed 16 Apr 14

B Daly says...

The ticket is not valid unless placed on the car so drive away and no ticket can be issued also as they are not trafic wardens you do not have to wait for them to finish writing the ticket.
The ticket is not valid unless placed on the car so drive away and no ticket can be issued also as they are not trafic wardens you do not have to wait for them to finish writing the ticket. B Daly
  • Score: 0

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