TV actor's pilgrimage to Wilfred Owen's Wirral homes

Christopher Timothy outside Owen's childhood home

Christopher Timothy outside Owen's childhood home

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ACTOR Christopher Timothy - best known as TV vet James Herriot - made a personal pilgrimage to the former homes of World War One poet Wilfred Owen during a special visit to Wirral.

The star of 80s TV series All Creatures Great and Small was in Birkenhead to record Owen's poetry for a special version of musical play Bullets and Daffodils, which is being performed at the town's Central Library next Wednesday, April 9, as part of local history week.

Written by Oxton-based musician Dean Johnson, it chronicles the life of Wilfred, who was killed in action at the end of the First World War.

While in Wirral, Christopher visit Owen's childhood homes in Elm Grove, Wilmer Road and Milton Road in Tranmere.

The actor, who also appeared in the popular daytime soap Doctors, was born in Shropshire, which is also the poet's birthplace, has long been fascinated with Wilfred's youth spent in Birkenhead.

This led to him meeting Dean and becoming director of his Owen bio-musical.

Christopher said: "I have learnt so much about the Wirral through working with Dean on Bullets And Daffodils, and I believe Owen's iconic verse was shaped by his time spent here."

The play, which deals with his life before and during the conflict, premiered at Birkenhead Central Library in 2010.

The production explores Wilfred's relationship with his mother through his letters, poetry and his life's events.

Bullets and Daffodils can be heard at Birkenhead Central Library at 2.15pm. Tickets £3

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7:14pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Lurkinhead says...

So, just to keep track of the number of articles the Globe intend to run in 2014 featuring Dean Johnson and/or his commercial interests, this piece is the 7th I've counted so far, four penned by Globe reporter Geoff Barnes and three by reporter Craig Manning. I wonder how many there will be in the whole year?

Just for the record, here are links to the previous six:

http://www.wirralglo
be.co.uk/news/110943
62.Poems_of_Wilfred_
Owen_now_available_o
n_audio_file/

http://www.wirralglo

be.co.uk/news/109126

51.The_World_at_War_

__Wirral_s_memories_

endure/

http://www.wirralglo

be.co.uk/news/first_

world_war_centenary/

10929591.Birkenhead_

seaman_s_incredible_

bravery_in_the_face_

of_lethal_danger/

http://www.wirralglo

be.co.uk/news/109581

91.Devastating_effec

ts_of_war_examined_i

n_new_Wilfred_Owen_m

usical/

http://www.wirralglo

be.co.uk/news/109988

02.Wirral_choreograp

her_illustrates_horr

or_of_war_in_Wilfred

_Owen_play/

http://www.wirralglo

be.co.uk/news/110498

51.Wilfred_s_shatter

ed_war_dreams/
So, just to keep track of the number of articles the Globe intend to run in 2014 featuring Dean Johnson and/or his commercial interests, this piece is the 7th I've counted so far, four penned by Globe reporter Geoff Barnes and three by reporter Craig Manning. I wonder how many there will be in the whole year? Just for the record, here are links to the previous six: http://www.wirralglo be.co.uk/news/110943 62.Poems_of_Wilfred_ Owen_now_available_o n_audio_file/ http://www.wirralglo be.co.uk/news/109126 51.The_World_at_War_ __Wirral_s_memories_ endure/ http://www.wirralglo be.co.uk/news/first_ world_war_centenary/ 10929591.Birkenhead_ seaman_s_incredible_ bravery_in_the_face_ of_lethal_danger/ http://www.wirralglo be.co.uk/news/109581 91.Devastating_effec ts_of_war_examined_i n_new_Wilfred_Owen_m usical/ http://www.wirralglo be.co.uk/news/109988 02.Wirral_choreograp her_illustrates_horr or_of_war_in_Wilfred _Owen_play/ http://www.wirralglo be.co.uk/news/110498 51.Wilfred_s_shatter ed_war_dreams/ Lurkinhead
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9:45am Sat 5 Apr 14

wirralexile says...

Don't understand what Lurkinhead's problem is with celebrating the life of an important local writer such as Wilfred Owen, or a theatre play based on his life by a local writer. Of course the Globe should be promoting this work and its positive effects in promoting the area nationally.
Don't understand what Lurkinhead's problem is with celebrating the life of an important local writer such as Wilfred Owen, or a theatre play based on his life by a local writer. Of course the Globe should be promoting this work and its positive effects in promoting the area nationally. wirralexile
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7:55pm Sat 5 Apr 14

uncatom says...

I think Lurkins comments are more to do with the Ingleborough Memorial Field saga, and with people challenging the sale of same to TRFC, Dean Johnson was demonised for his opposition to the sale of the field as were many others, and he was viewed as the main opponent, I didnt agree with some of DJ's methods or comments at the time, but he certainly gained publicity and made a lot more people aware of this shameful and disgraceful episode in our local history, Lurkinheads criticism of the Globe for making people aware of Wilfred Owens poems, and the horrors of the Great War is less than charitable and certainly uncalled for.
I think Lurkins comments are more to do with the Ingleborough Memorial Field saga, and with people challenging the sale of same to TRFC, Dean Johnson was demonised for his opposition to the sale of the field as were many others, and he was viewed as the main opponent, I didnt agree with some of DJ's methods or comments at the time, but he certainly gained publicity and made a lot more people aware of this shameful and disgraceful episode in our local history, Lurkinheads criticism of the Globe for making people aware of Wilfred Owens poems, and the horrors of the Great War is less than charitable and certainly uncalled for. uncatom
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6:49am Sun 6 Apr 14

Lurkinhead says...

uncatom wrote:
I think Lurkins comments are more to do with the Ingleborough Memorial Field saga, and with people challenging the sale of same to TRFC, Dean Johnson was demonised for his opposition to the sale of the field as were many others, and he was viewed as the main opponent, I didnt agree with some of DJ's methods or comments at the time, but he certainly gained publicity and made a lot more people aware of this shameful and disgraceful episode in our local history, Lurkinheads criticism of the Globe for making people aware of Wilfred Owens poems, and the horrors of the Great War is less than charitable and certainly uncalled for.
Hi uncatom.

Good to hear from you - I hope you are keeping well?

I admit that what I perceive as the Globe's "cosy" relationship with Dean Johnson first became apparent during the Ingleborough debate, but having delved a little deeper, I find it interesting to note just how much the man has the ear of his contacts at the Globe, in relation to a whole range of his commercial interests. For example, a cursory search of the Globe's search facility highlights over 100 articles in the last few years, which I believe is excessive, and smacks of nepotism.

I made my position re Dean Johnson clear here:

http://www.wirralglo
be.co.uk/news/first_
world_war_centenary/
10929591.Birkenhead_
seaman_s_incredible_
bravery_in_the_face_
of_lethal_danger/

Subsequently, my intention is not to continually restate what I consider to be an unhealthy relationship between Dean Johnson and his friends at the Globe, but rather to merely keep a tally as to how many articles the Globe run featuring the man and /or his commercial interests, which to date I believe is wholly disproportionate in terms of frequency to his relevance.
[quote][p][bold]uncatom[/bold] wrote: I think Lurkins comments are more to do with the Ingleborough Memorial Field saga, and with people challenging the sale of same to TRFC, Dean Johnson was demonised for his opposition to the sale of the field as were many others, and he was viewed as the main opponent, I didnt agree with some of DJ's methods or comments at the time, but he certainly gained publicity and made a lot more people aware of this shameful and disgraceful episode in our local history, Lurkinheads criticism of the Globe for making people aware of Wilfred Owens poems, and the horrors of the Great War is less than charitable and certainly uncalled for.[/p][/quote]Hi uncatom. Good to hear from you - I hope you are keeping well? I admit that what I perceive as the Globe's "cosy" relationship with Dean Johnson first became apparent during the Ingleborough debate, but having delved a little deeper, I find it interesting to note just how much the man has the ear of his contacts at the Globe, in relation to a whole range of his commercial interests. For example, a cursory search of the Globe's search facility highlights over 100 articles in the last few years, which I believe is excessive, and smacks of nepotism. I made my position re Dean Johnson clear here: http://www.wirralglo be.co.uk/news/first_ world_war_centenary/ 10929591.Birkenhead_ seaman_s_incredible_ bravery_in_the_face_ of_lethal_danger/ Subsequently, my intention is not to continually restate what I consider to be an unhealthy relationship between Dean Johnson and his friends at the Globe, but rather to merely keep a tally as to how many articles the Globe run featuring the man and /or his commercial interests, which to date I believe is wholly disproportionate in terms of frequency to his relevance. Lurkinhead
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2:06pm Sun 6 Apr 14

uncatom says...

Hello Lurkin, yes thank you for your kind regards, well we do think alike, however my concern is the unhealthy relationship betwixt TRFC and WBC, the latter appears to bestow many "favours" and priorities upon our local footie club, which don't appear to be available to other local enterprises, a civic lunch provided and paid for via the hospitality of the ratepayer as a big thank you, one may ask a thank you for what ? perhaps TRFC should be treating us all as a thank you for the million odd quid they have had over the past decade, which I might add could have been put to better use to keep our facilities and services running, I believe TRFC have designs on playing fields off Leasowe Road, perhaps another bargain basement deal?
Hello Lurkin, yes thank you for your kind regards, well we do think alike, however my concern is the unhealthy relationship betwixt TRFC and WBC, the latter appears to bestow many "favours" and priorities upon our local footie club, which don't appear to be available to other local enterprises, a civic lunch provided and paid for via the hospitality of the ratepayer as a big thank you, one may ask a thank you for what ? perhaps TRFC should be treating us all as a thank you for the million odd quid they have had over the past decade, which I might add could have been put to better use to keep our facilities and services running, I believe TRFC have designs on playing fields off Leasowe Road, perhaps another bargain basement deal? uncatom
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8:46pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Lurkinhead says...

Just as an aside, this story appeared on Dean Johnson's own website on 06/03/14, stating:
"Actor Christopher Timothy, best known for his role as TV vet James Herriot, made his own personal pilgrimage to the World War One poet Wilfred Owen yesterday"

So, has Christopher Timothy made another more recent visit to Wirral and retraced his steps from a month ago, hence making a newsworthy story for the Globe I wonder, or could it perhaps be that this is a month old story that conveniently appears in the Globe at the precise time when Dean Johnson is trying to flog tickets to one of his commercial ventures?

Perhaps Globe reporter Craig Manning would be kind enough to confirm if that photo of Christopher Timothy is the same one that appeared a month ago on Dean Johnson's website, and when this visit to Wirral actually took place?
Just as an aside, this story appeared on Dean Johnson's own website on 06/03/14, stating: "Actor Christopher Timothy, best known for his role as TV vet James Herriot, made his own personal pilgrimage to the World War One poet Wilfred Owen yesterday" So, has Christopher Timothy made another more recent visit to Wirral and retraced his steps from a month ago, hence making a newsworthy story for the Globe I wonder, or could it perhaps be that this is a month old story that conveniently appears in the Globe at the precise time when Dean Johnson is trying to flog tickets to one of his commercial ventures? Perhaps Globe reporter Craig Manning would be kind enough to confirm if that photo of Christopher Timothy is the same one that appeared a month ago on Dean Johnson's website, and when this visit to Wirral actually took place? Lurkinhead
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12:56am Tue 8 Apr 14

yogz66 says...

If it's a new visit, it just shows how down on his luck Christopher Timothy is, that he is wearing exactly the same clothes, in exactly the same way, and standing in exactly the same position, with the photograph taken from exactly the same angle.

He wasn't there eight days ago when I drove Elm Grove, so he's not stood there for over a month.

But yeah, what a surprise that Mr Johnson has another feature when he has a show on. Do the Wirral Globe giive this level of publicity to all other amatuar dramtics productions? IE: repeatidly plug every performance, with an article, or do they just charge them for a 'word count' advert, at the going rate.

Four years since this 'show' was debuted, and yet it still hasn't gone mainstream, it's still performed to a few people at a time, spasmodically, in "village halls". Shame I need to be elsewhere on Wednesday....maybe I'll get the Globe's theatre critic write up to read in a forthcoming issue. I wonder who it'll be, Mr Marles, or Mr Manning?
If it's a new visit, it just shows how down on his luck Christopher Timothy is, that he is wearing exactly the same clothes, in exactly the same way, and standing in exactly the same position, with the photograph taken from exactly the same angle. He wasn't there eight days ago when I drove Elm Grove, so he's not stood there for over a month. But yeah, what a surprise that Mr Johnson has another feature when he has a show on. Do the Wirral Globe giive this level of publicity to all other amatuar dramtics productions? IE: repeatidly plug every performance, with an article, or do they just charge them for a 'word count' advert, at the going rate. Four years since this 'show' was debuted, and yet it still hasn't gone mainstream, it's still performed to a few people at a time, spasmodically, in "village halls". Shame I need to be elsewhere on Wednesday....maybe I'll get the Globe's theatre critic write up to read in a forthcoming issue. I wonder who it'll be, Mr Marles, or Mr Manning? yogz66
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11:26am Tue 8 Apr 14

uncatom says...

I still cant find a problem with informing people of an up and coming event in a local newspaper, even more so now on the anniversary of the start of the Great War, many many local people lost loved ones in this terrible war and rallied round to pay for local memorials, some of whom might find this information useful, so were is the harm being done? forget about Dean Johnson, the whole world doesn't revolve around the TRFC and DJ saga,
lest we forget
I still cant find a problem with informing people of an up and coming event in a local newspaper, even more so now on the anniversary of the start of the Great War, many many local people lost loved ones in this terrible war and rallied round to pay for local memorials, some of whom might find this information useful, so were is the harm being done? forget about Dean Johnson, the whole world doesn't revolve around the TRFC and DJ saga, lest we forget uncatom
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6:01pm Tue 8 Apr 14

yogz66 says...

The issue has nothing to do with a football club, shame really for you, as that's just ruined your whole point. The issue is actually the free publicity that Dean Johnson gets from the Wirral Globe that isn't offered out to other dramatic groups. Couple that with the poor reporting standards shown in giving us a story as having just happened, when the reality is it occured a month ago. Now, who told us it occured a month ago do you think?
The issue has nothing to do with a football club, shame really for you, as that's just ruined your whole point. The issue is actually the free publicity that Dean Johnson gets from the Wirral Globe that isn't offered out to other dramatic groups. Couple that with the poor reporting standards shown in giving us a story as having just happened, when the reality is it occured a month ago. Now, who told us it occured a month ago do you think? yogz66
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9:19am Wed 9 Apr 14

uncatom says...

yogz66 wrote:
The issue has nothing to do with a football club, shame really for you, as that's just ruined your whole point. The issue is actually the free publicity that Dean Johnson gets from the Wirral Globe that isn't offered out to other dramatic groups. Couple that with the poor reporting standards shown in giving us a story as having just happened, when the reality is it occured a month ago. Now, who told us it occured a month ago do you think?
Well if you take the time to read through the previous threads you will find Lurkinhead admitted that he did perceive a cosy relationship with DJ and the globe at the time of the Ingleborough field debate, and all credit to him for that, a point to which I responded , so tell me why my issue is not relevant? and speaking of free publicity how many articles do we read each week that involve TRFC and their logo? well let me explain it to you in simple terms, its called news, items of interest to the local community, to reiterate it is the anniversary of the Great War, some local people may be interested to learn more about it via plays , poems etc, as some people are interested in following football, so I say again, where is the harm being done? why is it an issue? news stories are repeated in daily papers sometimes in the same copy.
[quote][p][bold]yogz66[/bold] wrote: The issue has nothing to do with a football club, shame really for you, as that's just ruined your whole point. The issue is actually the free publicity that Dean Johnson gets from the Wirral Globe that isn't offered out to other dramatic groups. Couple that with the poor reporting standards shown in giving us a story as having just happened, when the reality is it occured a month ago. Now, who told us it occured a month ago do you think?[/p][/quote]Well if you take the time to read through the previous threads you will find Lurkinhead admitted that he did perceive a cosy relationship with DJ and the globe at the time of the Ingleborough field debate, and all credit to him for that, a point to which I responded , so tell me why my issue is not relevant? and speaking of free publicity how many articles do we read each week that involve TRFC and their logo? well let me explain it to you in simple terms, its called news, items of interest to the local community, to reiterate it is the anniversary of the Great War, some local people may be interested to learn more about it via plays , poems etc, as some people are interested in following football, so I say again, where is the harm being done? why is it an issue? news stories are repeated in daily papers sometimes in the same copy. uncatom
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3:02am Thu 10 Apr 14

yogz66 says...

Well, if you feel that somethingthat happened a month ago is worthy of a 'news scoop', then feel free. Johnson scooped this story on 'his' website at the begining of March. So, do we just assume that the Globe is rubbish at getting the stories out.

And thanks for pointing out that there's an anniversary to a war coming up, I'd failed to notice the similarity in the '14' from 1914 and 2014.

Should we expect more press announcements about another anniversary in 2015? I'm sure someone will happily be bending an editors ear.

Perhaps his musical will actually make it to the (Little) Theatre. Four years down the line and still hasn't got out of the library is hardly a sucess is it, what with all the FREE publicity it recieves in the Globe. Maybe people don't want to know......
Well, if you feel that somethingthat happened a month ago is worthy of a 'news scoop', then feel free. Johnson scooped this story on 'his' website at the begining of March. So, do we just assume that the Globe is rubbish at getting the stories out. And thanks for pointing out that there's an anniversary to a war coming up, I'd failed to notice the similarity in the '14' from 1914 and 2014. Should we expect more press announcements about another anniversary in 2015? I'm sure someone will happily be bending an editors ear. Perhaps his musical will actually make it to the (Little) Theatre. Four years down the line and still hasn't got out of the library is hardly a sucess is it, what with all the FREE publicity it recieves in the Globe. Maybe people don't want to know...... yogz66
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9:40am Thu 10 Apr 14

uncatom says...

yogz66 wrote:
Well, if you feel that somethingthat happened a month ago is worthy of a 'news scoop', then feel free. Johnson scooped this story on 'his' website at the begining of March. So, do we just assume that the Globe is rubbish at getting the stories out.

And thanks for pointing out that there's an anniversary to a war coming up, I'd failed to notice the similarity in the '14' from 1914 and 2014.

Should we expect more press announcements about another anniversary in 2015? I'm sure someone will happily be bending an editors ear.

Perhaps his musical will actually make it to the (Little) Theatre. Four years down the line and still hasn't got out of the library is hardly a sucess is it, what with all the FREE publicity it recieves in the Globe. Maybe people don't want to know......
It is obvious, your problem is with Dean Johnson as your continuing pathetic attacks on him in this thread point out, perhaps you just don't like the theatre, but if you are honest we both know what the real reason is, I am not a big fan myself of DJ, but must give him credit for giving much needed publicity to the Ingleborough Memorial Field sale which I note in the news again this week (good reporting) has raised its head again.
[quote][p][bold]yogz66[/bold] wrote: Well, if you feel that somethingthat happened a month ago is worthy of a 'news scoop', then feel free. Johnson scooped this story on 'his' website at the begining of March. So, do we just assume that the Globe is rubbish at getting the stories out. And thanks for pointing out that there's an anniversary to a war coming up, I'd failed to notice the similarity in the '14' from 1914 and 2014. Should we expect more press announcements about another anniversary in 2015? I'm sure someone will happily be bending an editors ear. Perhaps his musical will actually make it to the (Little) Theatre. Four years down the line and still hasn't got out of the library is hardly a sucess is it, what with all the FREE publicity it recieves in the Globe. Maybe people don't want to know......[/p][/quote]It is obvious, your problem is with Dean Johnson as your continuing pathetic attacks on him in this thread point out, perhaps you just don't like the theatre, but if you are honest we both know what the real reason is, I am not a big fan myself of DJ, but must give him credit for giving much needed publicity to the Ingleborough Memorial Field sale which I note in the news again this week (good reporting) has raised its head again. uncatom
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5:47pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Lurkinhead says...

Hello again Uncatom,

I wasn't intending to post again on this thread, but in view of the more recent contributions, I thought I'd best make it clear where I'm at with all this, just to avoid any misunderstanding.

As I said, my perception of an unhealthy relationship between Dean Johnson and the Globe first became apparent during the Ingleborough debate, but moving beyond Ingleborough, I do continue to have issues with the amount of coverage in this newspaper the man is able attract.

Before moving totally away from Ingleborough, as of course that is where I think we all first crossed swords, I now tend to take the view that what will be will be. As I understand it, there are various rumblings still afoot, but for me, I honestly think the debate has been done to death, we have all had our say at length, and whether I, you, TRFC, Dean Johnson or anyone else likes it, ultimately the matter will be concluded one way or the other and we'll have to get on with it. Personally, I am very disappointed that the Woodchurch arm of the project has now switched to Leasowe, but hey, that's just my opinion!

Anyway, back to the Dean Johnson / Globe issue..... can I put it to you this way Uncatom, if you did a search of the Globe online sight for "Dean Johnson", how many hits do you suspect would be listed ..... 100, 200 perhaps, or 500, or maybe more? I think you may be surprised.

Here's what I don't like about what I see as the situation. Dean Johnson is a very minor figure locally, but with a penchant for talking his achievements up and being adept at self-promotion. Due to what I believe are his personal links with some of the Globe staff, it seems to me that the amount of coverage he and his commercial ventures, whether than be his mawkish fascination with the First World War, for which he appears to wish to appear synonymous, or his vicarious but exaggerated links with The Beatles, is wholly disproportionate to the man's relevance.

For example, consider this Globe article:
http://www.wirralglo
be.co.uk/news/983403
5.Wilfred_Owen_music
al_is_a_West_End_sel
l_out/

Do you honestly think the headline accurately reflects the reality - i.e. the musical was staged in a 70 seat boutique theatre that can be hired for under £400, or is there perhaps an implied aggrandizement, to inflate the story's relevance and promote the interests of the writer?

To be honest, that is just one of may examples, but what i do find really offensive is the way Dean Johnson, or the Globe on his behalf, appear to be positioning the man as "Mr First World War", where any criticism of him is then taken, by some warped logic, as disrespectful to the memory of The Fallen. It isn't, although I do believe some of Mr Johnson's behaviour and antics have themselves been disrespectful, and inappropriate to the memory of the brave people he purports to promote.

Forgive the lengthy missive Uncatom, I genuinely didn't set out to have this debate again this year. No, my intention was rather merely to keep a tally of the number of articles in the Globe during 2014 that specifically promote Dean Johnson or his commercial ventures, in order that people can make their own minds up, given the facts of the matter. With reference to the Christopher Timothy article above, I believe it is a classic case in point - inferring a news report is topical, in order to promote ticket sales for one of Dean Johnson's commercial ventures, when the story actually relates to events over a month ago.

Finally, back to some of your barbs about Tranmere Rovers - hey, it's a free country and you are entitled to your view, but if you are trying to draw a comparison between the amount of coverage they receive in the local press, given the fact that they have been in existence for over 125 years, have been in the Football League since 1921, and hold the interest of thousands in Birkenhead / Wirral, either passionately or casually, with the ameteurish musicals penned by a local self-publicist who can't even fill a venue in a library in his home town, then with respect, I think you are so wide of the mark it is almost laughable.
Hello again Uncatom, I wasn't intending to post again on this thread, but in view of the more recent contributions, I thought I'd best make it clear where I'm at with all this, just to avoid any misunderstanding. As I said, my perception of an unhealthy relationship between Dean Johnson and the Globe first became apparent during the Ingleborough debate, but moving beyond Ingleborough, I do continue to have issues with the amount of coverage in this newspaper the man is able attract. Before moving totally away from Ingleborough, as of course that is where I think we all first crossed swords, I now tend to take the view that what will be will be. As I understand it, there are various rumblings still afoot, but for me, I honestly think the debate has been done to death, we have all had our say at length, and whether I, you, TRFC, Dean Johnson or anyone else likes it, ultimately the matter will be concluded one way or the other and we'll have to get on with it. Personally, I am very disappointed that the Woodchurch arm of the project has now switched to Leasowe, but hey, that's just my opinion! Anyway, back to the Dean Johnson / Globe issue..... can I put it to you this way Uncatom, if you did a search of the Globe online sight for "Dean Johnson", how many hits do you suspect would be listed ..... 100, 200 perhaps, or 500, or maybe more? I think you may be surprised. Here's what I don't like about what I see as the situation. Dean Johnson is a very minor figure locally, but with a penchant for talking his achievements up and being adept at self-promotion. Due to what I believe are his personal links with some of the Globe staff, it seems to me that the amount of coverage he and his commercial ventures, whether than be his mawkish fascination with the First World War, for which he appears to wish to appear synonymous, or his vicarious but exaggerated links with The Beatles, is wholly disproportionate to the man's relevance. For example, consider this Globe article: http://www.wirralglo be.co.uk/news/983403 5.Wilfred_Owen_music al_is_a_West_End_sel l_out/ Do you honestly think the headline accurately reflects the reality - i.e. the musical was staged in a 70 seat boutique theatre that can be hired for under £400, or is there perhaps an implied aggrandizement, to inflate the story's relevance and promote the interests of the writer? To be honest, that is just one of may examples, but what i do find really offensive is the way Dean Johnson, or the Globe on his behalf, appear to be positioning the man as "Mr First World War", where any criticism of him is then taken, by some warped logic, as disrespectful to the memory of The Fallen. It isn't, although I do believe some of Mr Johnson's behaviour and antics have themselves been disrespectful, and inappropriate to the memory of the brave people he purports to promote. Forgive the lengthy missive Uncatom, I genuinely didn't set out to have this debate again this year. No, my intention was rather merely to keep a tally of the number of articles in the Globe during 2014 that specifically promote Dean Johnson or his commercial ventures, in order that people can make their own minds up, given the facts of the matter. With reference to the Christopher Timothy article above, I believe it is a classic case in point - inferring a news report is topical, in order to promote ticket sales for one of Dean Johnson's commercial ventures, when the story actually relates to events over a month ago. Finally, back to some of your barbs about Tranmere Rovers - hey, it's a free country and you are entitled to your view, but if you are trying to draw a comparison between the amount of coverage they receive in the local press, given the fact that they have been in existence for over 125 years, have been in the Football League since 1921, and hold the interest of thousands in Birkenhead / Wirral, either passionately or casually, with the ameteurish musicals penned by a local self-publicist who can't even fill a venue in a library in his home town, then with respect, I think you are so wide of the mark it is almost laughable. Lurkinhead
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9:18pm Thu 10 Apr 14

yogz66 says...

Yeah, you're right, I do have a problem with Dean Johnson. It's with his relationship with teh Wirral Globe, and the free publicity he seems to be given at will. Shame that the on-line version, as of Apr10, doesn't have a theatre revue of this last performance. I wonder how many people turned out to see it? I wonder if there was enough to fill a Heswall bound bus that would pass by, especially as his sell out show in a theatre he hired himself, only had a capacity of 70 seats.

But then this man put a pox upon me. Dead classy ain't he. Mind you, the level or reporting in the globe is at best rubbish. The same potential lies are rtepeated in peice upon peice by the Globe's reporters, who continually state '88' when only '85' names are in the public realm. They're journalists, you'd have thought they'd have actually done some research to back the claims up. or perhaps thats just me.

But can I just thank you for reminding me that this year's 100 years since the great war broke out. When I remember the fallen, I'll remember them, who ever they are, and which ever school they went to, as the school they attended is immaterial. Take a trip down town, the war memorial in Hamilto Sqyare actually lists these 'special' fallen. They have a war memorial.

Just as an aside, did we ever get to hear about the response HRH Prince Harry made to Johnson's letter.....that seemed to go quiet very quicly. Oi Globe staff, find out for me please.
Yeah, you're right, I do have a problem with Dean Johnson. It's with his relationship with teh Wirral Globe, and the free publicity he seems to be given at will. Shame that the on-line version, as of Apr10, doesn't have a theatre revue of this last performance. I wonder how many people turned out to see it? I wonder if there was enough to fill a Heswall bound bus that would pass by, especially as his sell out show in a theatre he hired himself, only had a capacity of 70 seats. But then this man put a pox upon me. Dead classy ain't he. Mind you, the level or reporting in the globe is at best rubbish. The same potential lies are rtepeated in peice upon peice by the Globe's reporters, who continually state '88' when only '85' names are in the public realm. They're journalists, you'd have thought they'd have actually done some research to back the claims up. or perhaps thats just me. But can I just thank you for reminding me that this year's 100 years since the great war broke out. When I remember the fallen, I'll remember them, who ever they are, and which ever school they went to, as the school they attended is immaterial. Take a trip down town, the war memorial in Hamilto Sqyare actually lists these 'special' fallen. They have a war memorial. Just as an aside, did we ever get to hear about the response HRH Prince Harry made to Johnson's letter.....that seemed to go quiet very quicly. Oi Globe staff, find out for me please. yogz66
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1:31pm Fri 11 Apr 14

uncatom says...

Thanks for the information Lurkin, I didn't actually realise that he had received that amount of publicity, what prompted me to respond were the links between DJ and Ingleborough, but all credit to you, you did mention that.

As I stated earlier I am not a supporter of DJ nor did I agree with some of his outlandish remarks, but if we all look closely at something that perturbs us we will find a link, you with DJ and the globe me with WBC /TRFC / Ingleborough , its a pity that others take the opportunity to turn a reasonable discussion into the chimps tea party, we will probably never agree, but no harm in a discussion.
Thanks for the information Lurkin, I didn't actually realise that he had received that amount of publicity, what prompted me to respond were the links between DJ and Ingleborough, but all credit to you, you did mention that. As I stated earlier I am not a supporter of DJ nor did I agree with some of his outlandish remarks, but if we all look closely at something that perturbs us we will find a link, you with DJ and the globe me with WBC /TRFC / Ingleborough , its a pity that others take the opportunity to turn a reasonable discussion into the chimps tea party, we will probably never agree, but no harm in a discussion. uncatom
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1:00pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Lurkinhead says...

I get what you are saying there uncatom - I guess we all have things in life that we perceive as unjust.


Just on a point yogz66 made earlier, I found an article on Dean Johnson's own website dated 20/03/14, as follows:

"THE INGLEBOROUGH ROAD FALLEN REMEMBERED - COMMEMORATIVE ANTHOLOGY.
This is rather timely and emotional. As The Ingleborough Road Memorial Field's fate seems sealed by the new TRFC Leasowe plans, we received a donation from a Birkenhead Institute old boy yesterday. It is in the form of 4 bound volumes of books containing the names of 86 of the 88 fallen remembered at Ingleborough Road, but most importantly chronologically lists the dates and battles in which they fell, and also the battalions in which they served, plus photographs of the cemeteries where they rest today. After 100 years, the people of Birkenhead can refer to these books and discover the selflessness of these brave young men and the debt we owe to their sacrifice. Old boy Mr Les Highton has spent months researching and compiling this index for perpetuity. We are proud and honoured to display them at the Wilfred Owen Story."


So, it seems there are 86 out of the 88 names in the public domain, but what about the other two I wonder? It does seem a shame that apparently nothing is known about them, given that they are referred to so often. Perhaps the records got lost when B.I. moved from Whetstone Lane, where Wilfred Owen attended, to Tollemache Road, where Dean Johnson attended. I agree it is poignant and moving to learn of individual stories of The Fallen, especially 100 years after the start of The Great War, be that whether they attended Birkenhead or were educated elsewhere.

It is my belief that each and every one of The Fallen, i.e. those listed on the official war memorials, constitutes an equal individual tragedy, and none should be viewed as somehow more deserving of our emotion, simply because they went to a particular school that ceased to exist many years ago. I just wish that equal respect could be bestowed on all of The Fallen, rather than picking and choosing who to most greatly honour, as it seems to me some people appear keen to do, based on their own commercial interests.
I get what you are saying there uncatom - I guess we all have things in life that we perceive as unjust. Just on a point yogz66 made earlier, I found an article on Dean Johnson's own website dated 20/03/14, as follows: "THE INGLEBOROUGH ROAD FALLEN REMEMBERED - COMMEMORATIVE ANTHOLOGY. This is rather timely and emotional. As The Ingleborough Road Memorial Field's fate seems sealed by the new TRFC Leasowe plans, we received a donation from a Birkenhead Institute old boy yesterday. It is in the form of 4 bound volumes of books containing the names of 86 of the 88 fallen remembered at Ingleborough Road, but most importantly chronologically lists the dates and battles in which they fell, and also the battalions in which they served, plus photographs of the cemeteries where they rest today. After 100 years, the people of Birkenhead can refer to these books and discover the selflessness of these brave young men and the debt we owe to their sacrifice. Old boy Mr Les Highton has spent months researching and compiling this index for perpetuity. We are proud and honoured to display them at the Wilfred Owen Story." So, it seems there are 86 out of the 88 names in the public domain, but what about the other two I wonder? It does seem a shame that apparently nothing is known about them, given that they are referred to so often. Perhaps the records got lost when B.I. moved from Whetstone Lane, where Wilfred Owen attended, to Tollemache Road, where Dean Johnson attended. I agree it is poignant and moving to learn of individual stories of The Fallen, especially 100 years after the start of The Great War, be that whether they attended Birkenhead or were educated elsewhere. It is my belief that each and every one of The Fallen, i.e. those listed on the official war memorials, constitutes an equal individual tragedy, and none should be viewed as somehow more deserving of our emotion, simply because they went to a particular school that ceased to exist many years ago. I just wish that equal respect could be bestowed on all of The Fallen, rather than picking and choosing who to most greatly honour, as it seems to me some people appear keen to do, based on their own commercial interests. Lurkinhead
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