Shambles: Merseyside's new combined authority in crisis - after its first meeting

Joe Anderson: 'Leaders have engaged in a dysfunctional debate akin to toy town level politics and ambitions'

Joe Anderson: 'Leaders have engaged in a dysfunctional debate akin to toy town level politics and ambitions'

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Merseyside’s new “super council” scarcely could have got off to a less promising start.

Just hours after the combined authority's first meeting, Liverpool Mayor Joe Anderson is seeking legal advice about pulling the city out.

The Mayor accused other leaders of playing “clandestine toy town politics” after they voted Wirral Council’s leader Phil Davies to be chairman of the new Liverpool City Region Combined Authority.

But the vote for chairman was cast before Mayor Anderson and Sefton boss Cllr Peter Dowd had arrived.

It is believed Cllr Dowd was planning to nominate Mayor Anderson to be chairman, although they still would have been out-voted by four to two.

In an email to Labour colleagues leaked to the Liverpool Echo, the clearly furious Mayor said he felt he and the city had been treated in a "totally disrespectful" manner.

He wrote: “As you are all aware I have reported to you the fact that members of the City Region previously held caucus meetings in a clandestine way to decide who would chair the CA [combined authority] - when I confronted them, they admitted to this.

"They said (and by ‘they’ I mean Wirral, St Helens, Halton and Knowsley) that I was too big a personality and Liverpool was too strong and therefore they would oppose me being chair of the CA or Liverpool chairing the CA.

“I think the clear message that was sent out this morning - and the behaviour of leaders - was not one I would have hoped for.

“In my view people are more interested in their own personal ambitions than that of the City Region, and it was not the best start I would have hoped for."

The Mayor continued: “This is such a missed opportunity; instead of thinking and behaving like leaders of a big global city, the City Region leaders have engaged in a dysfunctional debate akin to toy town level politics and ambitions.

“I am considering options at the moment and seeking legal advice and will discuss this further at full council in two weeks.

“However, my own view is I can’t sign up to something which disadvantages our city.”

Wirral Conservative group had opposed the new “super council” from the start.

Their leader Cllr Jeff Green said: “What a complete shambles.

“We warned this new authority would be all about internal Labour politics and personalities.

“Even so, I find it absolutely astonishing that within a few hours of this body being set up, it is in complete disarray.

“Now that we are irrevocably and formally linked to this unnecessary authority, we will be a laughing stock to any other regions competing for jobs and inward investment.

“In terms of the democratic process, it's shocking that the leaders should commence the inaugural meeting and take a vote on chairmanship while the Mayor of Liverpool is not even in the room.

“What a farce.”

Councillor Davies told the Globe it was important the combined authority moved forward with a united front.

He said: “The fact is I was elected as chair of the new combined authority at the inaugural meeting and from my point of view now, it is essential that everybody, all the leaders, unite around the agenda in terms of growth and creating jobs.

"This is at the heart of what we want to do, and we must move together in that direction.

“I don’t think it does anybody any favours if we are not seen to be pursuing a united front.

“I hope Joe Anderson will reflect on the situation and work in partnership with me and the other leaders to see how we can get people, particularly our young people who are unemployed, back into the labour market.”

Councillor Davies confirmed Mayor Anderson had been in the building since 10am.

He said: “The meeting was scheduled to start at 11am, there were around 50 members of the public there and the meeting was called to order and we were asked for nominations.

“I can’t do anything if Joe Anderson isn’t in the room.

"The meeting started at the scheduled time and he turned up late.”

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9:53am Wed 2 Apr 14

WirralAl says...

As always Phil Davies is deluded.

This will collapse before it gets off the ground.

Phil Davies have a proven track record of failure and time time again they have proven that it is all about political point scoring and how to climb the ladder of self importance. As always has thicker skin than the average crocodile and can only see that he is doing well.

Joe Anderson is spitting his dummy out as he was not voted in to this role.


This whole exercise is about pooling the resources of the area and working together for the benefit of Merseyside.

What a shame it will fall on its rear as the kids are playing childish games again which does not help any of us.

Get a grip or give up!!!
As always Phil Davies is deluded. This will collapse before it gets off the ground. Phil Davies have a proven track record of failure and time time again they have proven that it is all about political point scoring and how to climb the ladder of self importance. As always has thicker skin than the average crocodile and can only see that he is doing well. Joe Anderson is spitting his dummy out as he was not voted in to this role. This whole exercise is about pooling the resources of the area and working together for the benefit of Merseyside. What a shame it will fall on its rear as the kids are playing childish games again which does not help any of us. Get a grip or give up!!! WirralAl
  • Score: 26

10:05am Wed 2 Apr 14

reliant22 says...

I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?)
that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!!
We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!!
How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present?
What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?
I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?) that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!! We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!! How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present? What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats? reliant22
  • Score: 4

10:21am Wed 2 Apr 14

artemis81 says...

reliant22 wrote:
I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?)
that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!!
We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!!
How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present?
What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?
Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.
[quote][p][bold]reliant22[/bold] wrote: I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?) that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!! We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!! How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present? What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?[/p][/quote]Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise. artemis81
  • Score: 24

10:44am Wed 2 Apr 14

Thepleb says...

Davies I am sure we can work together..the man is deluded after the first day the leader of the main city Liverpool is taking legal advise to get out of it maybe just a thought philly boy can get his own house in order and go out in the wide world with his fellow Wirral officers all on their own and get investment for Wirral and its public..give China a miss though as the Dragon lady has disappeared along with all her imaginary investment..
Davies I am sure we can work together..the man is deluded after the first day the leader of the main city Liverpool is taking legal advise to get out of it maybe just a thought philly boy can get his own house in order and go out in the wide world with his fellow Wirral officers all on their own and get investment for Wirral and its public..give China a miss though as the Dragon lady has disappeared along with all her imaginary investment.. Thepleb
  • Score: 11

10:46am Wed 2 Apr 14

Growl Tiger says...

Building empires is the only driving force behind certain councillors and senior officers in WBC. A temporary CEO post is made permanent without proof of ability, super directors are appointed in a convenient reshuffle and yet most of their decision making seems to be undertaken by outside “consultants” and now this debacle.
How on earth a leader of a council which is known for its abnormal management techniques and its lack of openness and transparency becomes Chair of a new and larger authority is beyond me. Those who voted him in have already shown they are unfit to take serious decisions on behalf of local people.
Building empires is the only driving force behind certain councillors and senior officers in WBC. A temporary CEO post is made permanent without proof of ability, super directors are appointed in a convenient reshuffle and yet most of their decision making seems to be undertaken by outside “consultants” and now this debacle. How on earth a leader of a council which is known for its abnormal management techniques and its lack of openness and transparency becomes Chair of a new and larger authority is beyond me. Those who voted him in have already shown they are unfit to take serious decisions on behalf of local people. Growl Tiger
  • Score: 18

10:51am Wed 2 Apr 14

JohnON says...

Did anyone honestly ever expect anything else?
Did anyone honestly ever expect anything else? JohnON
  • Score: 9

11:53am Wed 2 Apr 14

piermaster says...

artemis81 wrote:
reliant22 wrote:
I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?)
that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!!
We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!!
How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present?
What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?
Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.
Right on the money artemis81 well said!!
[quote][p][bold]artemis81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reliant22[/bold] wrote: I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?) that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!! We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!! How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present? What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?[/p][/quote]Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.[/p][/quote]Right on the money artemis81 well said!! piermaster
  • Score: 14

1:29pm Wed 2 Apr 14

hobroW says...

These persons get together on Merseytravel and the result is...?

Millions lost on fancy debit card schemes and on trams

Mr Thatcher was right SMALL government please and cut the cash as the Coalition is doing.

No diversity, no equality agenda, just empty the bins repair the roads and thank you. Leave the cash with businesses and people as indeed Councils are being now obliged to do.

Just my opinion and not an invitation to be damned in print
These persons get together on Merseytravel and the result is...? Millions lost on fancy debit card schemes and on trams Mr Thatcher was right SMALL government please and cut the cash as the Coalition is doing. No diversity, no equality agenda, just empty the bins repair the roads and thank you. Leave the cash with businesses and people as indeed Councils are being now obliged to do. Just my opinion and not an invitation to be damned in print hobroW
  • Score: 7

2:31pm Wed 2 Apr 14

water1lily says...

When the labour politicians cannot be honest amongst themselves what does it say?
When the labour politicians cannot be honest amongst themselves what does it say? water1lily
  • Score: 8

2:55pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Thepleb says...

Think they need to change their name again as I don't think Liverpool city region will be apt in the circumstances perhaps;
W irral
A uthority
N eeds
K nowsley &
S t Helens
Think they need to change their name again as I don't think Liverpool city region will be apt in the circumstances perhaps; W irral A uthority N eeds K nowsley & S t Helens Thepleb
  • Score: 5

3:00pm Wed 2 Apr 14

bigfoot says...

This is a good start Pip Davies seems to have an influence on everything he touches.
All the chickens have lost their heads already.
This is a good start Pip Davies seems to have an influence on everything he touches. All the chickens have lost their heads already. bigfoot
  • Score: 5

5:55pm Wed 2 Apr 14

spamfiend says...

Quote "In my view people are more interested in their own personal ambitions than that of the City Region"

We have known this for years now! Laughing stock, the lot of them!
Quote "In my view people are more interested in their own personal ambitions than that of the City Region" We have known this for years now! Laughing stock, the lot of them! spamfiend
  • Score: 11

7:25pm Wed 2 Apr 14

PaulCa says...

As these wasters go at each other's throats, feeling hard done by, it becomes all too clear they don't know the meaning of GENUINE suffering. They are a shambles and a disgrace
As these wasters go at each other's throats, feeling hard done by, it becomes all too clear they don't know the meaning of GENUINE suffering. They are a shambles and a disgrace PaulCa
  • Score: 10

8:03pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Joeblogg85 says...

piermaster wrote:
artemis81 wrote:
reliant22 wrote:
I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?)
that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!!
We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!!
How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present?
What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?
Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.
Right on the money artemis81 well said!!
What about holding "clandestine" meetings without two of the major players involved. Doesn't seem to be very open and transparent to me. I suppose Joe Anderson does have an ego but let's be honest about it, they all have. I have some experience of both Joe Anderson and Phil Davies and Joe wouldn't listen to some spin merchant like Phil does. With my experience I would chose Anderson over Davies all day long. Phil can't even put his own house in order. Shambles!
[quote][p][bold]piermaster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]artemis81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reliant22[/bold] wrote: I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?) that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!! We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!! How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present? What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?[/p][/quote]Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.[/p][/quote]Right on the money artemis81 well said!![/p][/quote]What about holding "clandestine" meetings without two of the major players involved. Doesn't seem to be very open and transparent to me. I suppose Joe Anderson does have an ego but let's be honest about it, they all have. I have some experience of both Joe Anderson and Phil Davies and Joe wouldn't listen to some spin merchant like Phil does. With my experience I would chose Anderson over Davies all day long. Phil can't even put his own house in order. Shambles! Joeblogg85
  • Score: 4

10:28pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Cloud 23 says...

Joeblogg85 wrote:
piermaster wrote:
artemis81 wrote:
reliant22 wrote:
I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?)
that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!!
We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!!
How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present?
What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?
Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.
Right on the money artemis81 well said!!
What about holding "clandestine" meetings without two of the major players involved. Doesn't seem to be very open and transparent to me. I suppose Joe Anderson does have an ego but let's be honest about it, they all have. I have some experience of both Joe Anderson and Phil Davies and Joe wouldn't listen to some spin merchant like Phil does. With my experience I would chose Anderson over Davies all day long. Phil can't even put his own house in order. Shambles!
What is clandestine about a public meeting starting at scheduled time? Who do Anderson and Dowd think they are disrespecting all involved including public by deliberately turning up late? It seems clear they knew before the vote would go against them so engineered this to create maximum effect. Not sure Davies done anything wrong here except be voted in by the rest of the Authorities.
[quote][p][bold]Joeblogg85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]piermaster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]artemis81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reliant22[/bold] wrote: I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?) that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!! We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!! How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present? What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?[/p][/quote]Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.[/p][/quote]Right on the money artemis81 well said!![/p][/quote]What about holding "clandestine" meetings without two of the major players involved. Doesn't seem to be very open and transparent to me. I suppose Joe Anderson does have an ego but let's be honest about it, they all have. I have some experience of both Joe Anderson and Phil Davies and Joe wouldn't listen to some spin merchant like Phil does. With my experience I would chose Anderson over Davies all day long. Phil can't even put his own house in order. Shambles![/p][/quote]What is clandestine about a public meeting starting at scheduled time? Who do Anderson and Dowd think they are disrespecting all involved including public by deliberately turning up late? It seems clear they knew before the vote would go against them so engineered this to create maximum effect. Not sure Davies done anything wrong here except be voted in by the rest of the Authorities. Cloud 23
  • Score: 7

10:37pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Joeblogg85 says...

Cloud 23 wrote:
Joeblogg85 wrote:
piermaster wrote:
artemis81 wrote:
reliant22 wrote:
I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?)
that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!!
We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!!
How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present?
What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?
Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.
Right on the money artemis81 well said!!
What about holding "clandestine" meetings without two of the major players involved. Doesn't seem to be very open and transparent to me. I suppose Joe Anderson does have an ego but let's be honest about it, they all have. I have some experience of both Joe Anderson and Phil Davies and Joe wouldn't listen to some spin merchant like Phil does. With my experience I would chose Anderson over Davies all day long. Phil can't even put his own house in order. Shambles!
What is clandestine about a public meeting starting at scheduled time? Who do Anderson and Dowd think they are disrespecting all involved including public by deliberately turning up late? It seems clear they knew before the vote would go against them so engineered this to create maximum effect. Not sure Davies done anything wrong here except be voted in by the rest of the Authorities.
Hey Cloud,

Please read the article again. It appears another meeting was held without Liverpool and Sefton in attendance. Not this meeting but a pre meeting.

Cheers

Joe
[quote][p][bold]Cloud 23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joeblogg85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]piermaster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]artemis81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reliant22[/bold] wrote: I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?) that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!! We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!! How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present? What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?[/p][/quote]Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.[/p][/quote]Right on the money artemis81 well said!![/p][/quote]What about holding "clandestine" meetings without two of the major players involved. Doesn't seem to be very open and transparent to me. I suppose Joe Anderson does have an ego but let's be honest about it, they all have. I have some experience of both Joe Anderson and Phil Davies and Joe wouldn't listen to some spin merchant like Phil does. With my experience I would chose Anderson over Davies all day long. Phil can't even put his own house in order. Shambles![/p][/quote]What is clandestine about a public meeting starting at scheduled time? Who do Anderson and Dowd think they are disrespecting all involved including public by deliberately turning up late? It seems clear they knew before the vote would go against them so engineered this to create maximum effect. Not sure Davies done anything wrong here except be voted in by the rest of the Authorities.[/p][/quote]Hey Cloud, Please read the article again. It appears another meeting was held without Liverpool and Sefton in attendance. Not this meeting but a pre meeting. Cheers Joe Joeblogg85
  • Score: 1

10:48pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Cloud 23 says...

Joe being 'out joe'd' for a change seems to be root of that. Im sure there has been all kinds of plotting and side meetings between those involved including Anderson in the run up. Why shouldn't one of other authorities chair it. Why cow-tow to Liverpool all the time? None of this take away from fact that quite deliberate late attendance at a public meeting and to play games is no way to treat public office.
Joe being 'out joe'd' for a change seems to be root of that. Im sure there has been all kinds of plotting and side meetings between those involved including Anderson in the run up. Why shouldn't one of other authorities chair it. Why cow-tow to Liverpool all the time? None of this take away from fact that quite deliberate late attendance at a public meeting and to play games is no way to treat public office. Cloud 23
  • Score: 5

11:28pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Councillor Chris Blakeley says...

Seems the Liverpool City Region is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are too busy fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame.
Seems the Liverpool City Region is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are too busy fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame. Councillor Chris Blakeley
  • Score: 8

11:30pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Councillor Chris Blakeley says...

Seems the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are not fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame. A total Labour fail
Seems the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are not fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame. A total Labour fail Councillor Chris Blakeley
  • Score: 5

6:46am Thu 3 Apr 14

the99% says...

Hilarious to think of big Joe getting upset that he can't sit in big boys chair. He is responsible for any shambles and shame this "outcry" brings. Nothing to dowith "party" politics all down to ego which all colours of current politicians have in surplus.
Here's hoping the super authority can achieve its aims by scrapping the tolls and removing the "tax" on travel in the area
Hilarious to think of big Joe getting upset that he can't sit in big boys chair. He is responsible for any shambles and shame this "outcry" brings. Nothing to dowith "party" politics all down to ego which all colours of current politicians have in surplus. Here's hoping the super authority can achieve its aims by scrapping the tolls and removing the "tax" on travel in the area the99%
  • Score: 3

10:19am Thu 3 Apr 14

Growl Tiger says...

Perhaps Pip’s first task could be to send Uncle Joe to the SUMO consultant to learn the Wirral dictum “Shut Up and Move On”.
Perhaps Pip’s first task could be to send Uncle Joe to the SUMO consultant to learn the Wirral dictum “Shut Up and Move On”. Growl Tiger
  • Score: 6

10:21am Thu 3 Apr 14

Thepleb says...

Councillor Chris Blakeley wrote:
Seems the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are not fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame. A total Labour fail
Cllr Blakeley fighting amongst yourselves is a favourite pastime for Wirral council rather than working together you all throw political **** at each other when you should be working together for the best interests of the Wirral as a former council employee discarded in the latest purge I have first hand experience of how our local councillors and senior super officers work. In my experience Wirral has senior officers in charge of departments they have no knowledge or experience of and cllrs sitting on committee's they also have no experience or knowledge of. I worked in the Councils Emergency Control Room which was called cctv room by cllrs, we had many meetings with super directors who didn't have a clue what our role entailed meeting with cabinet member cllr Meaden who then ignored our emails and phone calls and voted To close us you yourself cllr Blakely also ignored our emails having previously been photographed in the control room after opening it up on days, eleven staff were made redundant all Wirral residents and to cap it off you now have inexperienced and unknowledgable agency staff in the control room dealing with out of hours council emergencies maybe something to make a political statement about.
[quote][p][bold]Councillor Chris Blakeley[/bold] wrote: Seems the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are not fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame. A total Labour fail[/p][/quote]Cllr Blakeley fighting amongst yourselves is a favourite pastime for Wirral council rather than working together you all throw political **** at each other when you should be working together for the best interests of the Wirral as a former council employee discarded in the latest purge I have first hand experience of how our local councillors and senior super officers work. In my experience Wirral has senior officers in charge of departments they have no knowledge or experience of and cllrs sitting on committee's they also have no experience or knowledge of. I worked in the Councils Emergency Control Room which was called cctv room by cllrs, we had many meetings with super directors who didn't have a clue what our role entailed meeting with cabinet member cllr Meaden who then ignored our emails and phone calls and voted To close us you yourself cllr Blakely also ignored our emails having previously been photographed in the control room after opening it up on days, eleven staff were made redundant all Wirral residents and to cap it off you now have inexperienced and unknowledgable agency staff in the control room dealing with out of hours council emergencies maybe something to make a political statement about. Thepleb
  • Score: 6

10:48am Thu 3 Apr 14

rover600 says...

As a Wirral resident I'd go for Liverpool's Anderson over our Davies any day of the week! Our Council pretty much in its entirety are selfish, self-centred and focussed on their own ambitions than representing and doing their best for the best interests of the Wirral. The danger now is more lies, deceit, closed reports... Anderson should have known better, Wirral Councillors are renowned for their behind closed door sweep it under the carpet and blanket denial style meetings and ignoring instructions to comply... What is the latest on Martin Morton? To my knowledge despite making the right noises this matter isn't concluded, A Shining example of why this shower should not be trusted with anything, its akin to putting a lunatic in charge of an asylum!
Wirral & Merseysiders plain and simply want honest representation delivered with integrity to deliver the best for them & our area, to be represented with PRIDE, this is certainly NOT what we have right now in Wirral. Mayor Anderson HAS delivered for the people of Liverpool - 25 years ago I used to come to this area on business and felt 'like I needed to wipe my feet' as I 'escaped a desolate crime ridden area' with nothing to attract people here other than two Major football teams. Over the last ten years I've witnessed a phoenix style meteoric rise for the city of Liverpool with The City of Culture, Giant spiders, Giant Dogs & Divers, A Cruise Line Terminal, Liverpool One, New hotels, the regeneration of the city approach via Edge Lane to name but a few. On the Wirral? Hmmmmm The superb private investment at Marine Point apart what else has Wirral MBC delivered for us? Time for a major shake up I say.....
As a Wirral resident I'd go for Liverpool's Anderson over our Davies any day of the week! Our Council pretty much in its entirety are selfish, self-centred and focussed on their own ambitions than representing and doing their best for the best interests of the Wirral. The danger now is more lies, deceit, closed reports... Anderson should have known better, Wirral Councillors are renowned for their behind closed door sweep it under the carpet and blanket denial style meetings and ignoring instructions to comply... What is the latest on Martin Morton? To my knowledge despite making the right noises this matter isn't concluded, A Shining example of why this shower should not be trusted with anything, its akin to putting a lunatic in charge of an asylum! Wirral & Merseysiders plain and simply want honest representation delivered with integrity to deliver the best for them & our area, to be represented with PRIDE, this is certainly NOT what we have right now in Wirral. Mayor Anderson HAS delivered for the people of Liverpool - 25 years ago I used to come to this area on business and felt 'like I needed to wipe my feet' as I 'escaped a desolate crime ridden area' with nothing to attract people here other than two Major football teams. Over the last ten years I've witnessed a phoenix style meteoric rise for the city of Liverpool with The City of Culture, Giant spiders, Giant Dogs & Divers, A Cruise Line Terminal, Liverpool One, New hotels, the regeneration of the city approach via Edge Lane to name but a few. On the Wirral? Hmmmmm The superb private investment at Marine Point apart what else has Wirral MBC delivered for us? Time for a major shake up I say..... rover600
  • Score: 10

10:51am Thu 3 Apr 14

artemis81 says...

Joeblogg85 wrote:
piermaster wrote:
artemis81 wrote:
reliant22 wrote:
I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?)
that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!!
We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!!
How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present?
What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?
Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.
Right on the money artemis81 well said!!
What about holding "clandestine" meetings without two of the major players involved. Doesn't seem to be very open and transparent to me. I suppose Joe Anderson does have an ego but let's be honest about it, they all have. I have some experience of both Joe Anderson and Phil Davies and Joe wouldn't listen to some spin merchant like Phil does. With my experience I would chose Anderson over Davies all day long. Phil can't even put his own house in order. Shambles!
You're in danger of sounding like Anderson there. Those meetings weren't 'clandestine', it was just regular 'manoevring'... Joe couldn't handle the fact that others didn't want him in the chair. And now he is showing himself to be the bully he really is. Maybe he wouldn't listen to a 'spin merchant', but that's more to do with his own bloody-minded arrogance than anything else. Perhaps he should listen to others more.
[quote][p][bold]Joeblogg85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]piermaster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]artemis81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reliant22[/bold] wrote: I`m surprised ( but again is this a real story or an April Fools` day Globe stint?) that Joe Anderson expected anything from Wirral remotely connected to honesty, integrity or democracy!! We have seen and heard it all from Wirral, can`t speak for the other Councils, however my guess is? Lots and lots of wrist -twisting at previously arranged secret meetings!!!!! How can decisions be arrived at on an important issue like this without all parties being present? What will happen after May when most of them lose their seats?[/p][/quote]Where has Wirral been dishonest? Big Joe has acted like the ego-maniac everyone knows he is and thrown his toys out of the pram because he didn't get to sit in the big chair. He deliberately missed the start of the meeting - a meeting can't begin without a chair in place - in order to stage-manage his tantrum and frankly if anyone is behaving disgracefully, it's him. If he was a child, he'd be sent to the naughty step until he was ready to apologise.[/p][/quote]Right on the money artemis81 well said!![/p][/quote]What about holding "clandestine" meetings without two of the major players involved. Doesn't seem to be very open and transparent to me. I suppose Joe Anderson does have an ego but let's be honest about it, they all have. I have some experience of both Joe Anderson and Phil Davies and Joe wouldn't listen to some spin merchant like Phil does. With my experience I would chose Anderson over Davies all day long. Phil can't even put his own house in order. Shambles![/p][/quote]You're in danger of sounding like Anderson there. Those meetings weren't 'clandestine', it was just regular 'manoevring'... Joe couldn't handle the fact that others didn't want him in the chair. And now he is showing himself to be the bully he really is. Maybe he wouldn't listen to a 'spin merchant', but that's more to do with his own bloody-minded arrogance than anything else. Perhaps he should listen to others more. artemis81
  • Score: 6

12:30pm Thu 3 Apr 14

antisthenes says...

The real losers all of this are the long suffering citizenry whose local taxes fund the crass manoeuvrings and machinations of a self referring crew of cronyist incompetents. This lot have made a laughing stock of and done immense damage to the credibility of the sub- region, not my term, which will no doubt result in potential investors thinking twice about doing business with Crazyside!

Notwithstanding which; Merseyside has not got a cat in hells chance of building a sustainable economic future with these jokers at the helm... even if this lot could together get their feeble act this lot would no doubt default to playing the poverty card and majoring on ESF and ERDF draw down to prop up their bogus crypto regeneration economy from which the primary beneficiaries are the council coffers which fund the salaries of their senior council officer elite co-conspirators.

We have a Local Economic Partnership , LEP, that is supposed to be working on the economic renaissance of the sub region so why do we need this parallel structure in the first place?

Simple..its because the LEP is yet another one of those self sustaining pseudo quangos replete with highly paid non jobs that specialise in parasitizing the public purse and leveraging in kudos by proxy ie basking in the reflected achievement of business that invest and succeed in the area as if the LEP's role were critical to such success.. it isn't!

Business invests in the region despite and not because of the likes of Anderson and Davies and so the sooner this latest bogus structure collapses the better!
The real losers all of this are the long suffering citizenry whose local taxes fund the crass manoeuvrings and machinations of a self referring crew of cronyist incompetents. This lot have made a laughing stock of and done immense damage to the credibility of the sub- region, not my term, which will no doubt result in potential investors thinking twice about doing business with Crazyside! Notwithstanding which; Merseyside has not got a cat in hells chance of building a sustainable economic future with these jokers at the helm... even if this lot could together get their feeble act this lot would no doubt default to playing the poverty card and majoring on ESF and ERDF draw down to prop up their bogus crypto regeneration economy from which the primary beneficiaries are the council coffers which fund the salaries of their senior council officer elite co-conspirators. We have a Local Economic Partnership , LEP, that is supposed to be working on the economic renaissance of the sub region so why do we need this parallel structure in the first place? Simple..its because the LEP is yet another one of those self sustaining pseudo quangos replete with highly paid non jobs that specialise in parasitizing the public purse and leveraging in kudos by proxy ie basking in the reflected achievement of business that invest and succeed in the area as if the LEP's role were critical to such success.. it isn't! Business invests in the region despite and not because of the likes of Anderson and Davies and so the sooner this latest bogus structure collapses the better! antisthenes
  • Score: 6

1:25pm Thu 3 Apr 14

PaulCa says...

Another public process has just been set up in Birchwood, Warrington.

The inquest that's now underway involves many grieving members of the local public, whose loved ones were targetted, and who have themselves been severely WRONGED over a number of decades.

In the face of massive injustice, these people are displaying courage AND dignity.

As for the petulant children taking lumps out of each other on this shiny new gravy train, they need to:

o shut up
o look in the mirror
o observe very closely what's going on just up the road
o learn a few lessons on how to behave
o apologise to everybody
Another public process has just been set up in Birchwood, Warrington. The inquest that's now underway involves many grieving members of the local public, whose loved ones were targetted, and who have themselves been severely WRONGED over a number of decades. In the face of massive injustice, these people are displaying courage AND dignity. As for the petulant children taking lumps out of each other on this shiny new gravy train, they need to: o shut up o look in the mirror o observe very closely what's going on just up the road o learn a few lessons on how to behave o apologise to everybody PaulCa
  • Score: 2

1:26pm Thu 3 Apr 14

PaulCa says...

Councillor Chris Blakeley wrote:
Seems the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are not fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame. A total Labour fail
You need to look in the mirror as well
[quote][p][bold]Councillor Chris Blakeley[/bold] wrote: Seems the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are not fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame. A total Labour fail[/p][/quote]You need to look in the mirror as well PaulCa
  • Score: 4

1:56pm Thu 3 Apr 14

JohnON says...

PaulCa wrote:
Councillor Chris Blakeley wrote:
Seems the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are not fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame. A total Labour fail
You need to look in the mirror as well
Almost exactly 12 months ago this week, Wirral's Labour Council forced through a virtual dictatorship in the Town Hall that would do North Korea and their like proud.

We should have had a referendum then. Naturally we didn't get one.

This current fiasco would almost certainly have been avoided if Wirral had been allowed a referendum - Naturally we didn't get one.

Other than setting the Town Hall on fire, I see little the opposition can do besides expressing their disgust (fighting amongst themselves, as you may put it) given the current balance of power at the Town Hall.

Unfortunately, with the obsessively blind obedience of the Labour Party's supporters which makes EVERY vote in the Town Hall a foregone conclusion (and the local elections almost certainly likewise), I see little hope for change.
[quote][p][bold]PaulCa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Councillor Chris Blakeley[/bold] wrote: Seems the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority is too busy fighting amongst themselves that they are not fighting for us. They should all hang their heads in shame. A total Labour fail[/p][/quote]You need to look in the mirror as well[/p][/quote]Almost exactly 12 months ago this week, Wirral's Labour Council forced through a virtual dictatorship in the Town Hall that would do North Korea and their like proud. We should have had a referendum then. Naturally we didn't get one. This current fiasco would almost certainly have been avoided if Wirral had been allowed a referendum - Naturally we didn't get one. Other than setting the Town Hall on fire, I see little the opposition can do besides expressing their disgust (fighting amongst themselves, as you may put it) given the current balance of power at the Town Hall. Unfortunately, with the obsessively blind obedience of the Labour Party's supporters which makes EVERY vote in the Town Hall a foregone conclusion (and the local elections almost certainly likewise), I see little hope for change. JohnON
  • Score: 6

4:04pm Thu 3 Apr 14

hobroW says...

Antisthenes speaketh wisdom.

ESF and ERDF support large salaries in Town Halls who plead the region's poverty to drink at the well of European money. The management of these schemes is lamentable but thast does not matter to the players-its their salarioes and pensions that such money guarantees. Breaking into a cricket club to steal £50 from the till meanwhile causing £5,000 worth of damage comes to mind.



30 years of experience in Liverpool and in Wirral has taught me this. Listen to Antisthenes!!
Antisthenes speaketh wisdom. ESF and ERDF support large salaries in Town Halls who plead the region's poverty to drink at the well of European money. The management of these schemes is lamentable but thast does not matter to the players-its their salarioes and pensions that such money guarantees. Breaking into a cricket club to steal £50 from the till meanwhile causing £5,000 worth of damage comes to mind. 30 years of experience in Liverpool and in Wirral has taught me this. Listen to Antisthenes!! hobroW
  • Score: 0

8:34am Fri 4 Apr 14

keen gardener says...

Plus do not let us forget Mr Burgess! He who now has a permanent contract and a brand new BMW. Mr Burgess is keeping extremely quiet, as leopards who 'never change their spots' do! I suspect he is preparing to pounce into a very nice earning job under this Combined Authority and I would put my £'s on the job NOT being on the Wirral side of the Mersey.
Plus do not let us forget Mr Burgess! He who now has a permanent contract and a brand new BMW. Mr Burgess is keeping extremely quiet, as leopards who 'never change their spots' do! I suspect he is preparing to pounce into a very nice earning job under this Combined Authority and I would put my £'s on the job NOT being on the Wirral side of the Mersey. keen gardener
  • Score: 4

9:10am Fri 4 Apr 14

Growl Tiger says...

I bet the first tranche of funding that comes in to this Combined Authority from central government will be spent on super, duper senior posts with all the trimmings. Imagine the juxtapositioning that will be going on behind the scenes.
I bet the first tranche of funding that comes in to this Combined Authority from central government will be spent on super, duper senior posts with all the trimmings. Imagine the juxtapositioning that will be going on behind the scenes. Growl Tiger
  • Score: 5

11:37am Fri 4 Apr 14

Joeblogg85 says...

antisthenes wrote:
The real losers all of this are the long suffering citizenry whose local taxes fund the crass manoeuvrings and machinations of a self referring crew of cronyist incompetents. This lot have made a laughing stock of and done immense damage to the credibility of the sub- region, not my term, which will no doubt result in potential investors thinking twice about doing business with Crazyside!

Notwithstanding which; Merseyside has not got a cat in hells chance of building a sustainable economic future with these jokers at the helm... even if this lot could together get their feeble act this lot would no doubt default to playing the poverty card and majoring on ESF and ERDF draw down to prop up their bogus crypto regeneration economy from which the primary beneficiaries are the council coffers which fund the salaries of their senior council officer elite co-conspirators.

We have a Local Economic Partnership , LEP, that is supposed to be working on the economic renaissance of the sub region so why do we need this parallel structure in the first place?

Simple..its because the LEP is yet another one of those self sustaining pseudo quangos replete with highly paid non jobs that specialise in parasitizing the public purse and leveraging in kudos by proxy ie basking in the reflected achievement of business that invest and succeed in the area as if the LEP's role were critical to such success.. it isn't!

Business invests in the region despite and not because of the likes of Anderson and Davies and so the sooner this latest bogus structure collapses the better!
Anti,

This post poses a great question. Why is this group duplicating the remit of the LEP?

My experience of Leaders, CEO's and Directors is that they take their advice from officers on such matters and pass this off as their own.

Joe
[quote][p][bold]antisthenes[/bold] wrote: The real losers all of this are the long suffering citizenry whose local taxes fund the crass manoeuvrings and machinations of a self referring crew of cronyist incompetents. This lot have made a laughing stock of and done immense damage to the credibility of the sub- region, not my term, which will no doubt result in potential investors thinking twice about doing business with Crazyside! Notwithstanding which; Merseyside has not got a cat in hells chance of building a sustainable economic future with these jokers at the helm... even if this lot could together get their feeble act this lot would no doubt default to playing the poverty card and majoring on ESF and ERDF draw down to prop up their bogus crypto regeneration economy from which the primary beneficiaries are the council coffers which fund the salaries of their senior council officer elite co-conspirators. We have a Local Economic Partnership , LEP, that is supposed to be working on the economic renaissance of the sub region so why do we need this parallel structure in the first place? Simple..its because the LEP is yet another one of those self sustaining pseudo quangos replete with highly paid non jobs that specialise in parasitizing the public purse and leveraging in kudos by proxy ie basking in the reflected achievement of business that invest and succeed in the area as if the LEP's role were critical to such success.. it isn't! Business invests in the region despite and not because of the likes of Anderson and Davies and so the sooner this latest bogus structure collapses the better![/p][/quote]Anti, This post poses a great question. Why is this group duplicating the remit of the LEP? My experience of Leaders, CEO's and Directors is that they take their advice from officers on such matters and pass this off as their own. Joe Joeblogg85
  • Score: 2

2:56pm Fri 4 Apr 14

WirralAl says...

Will someone tell Joe Anderson that the whole point of the city region is to promote the WHOLE area for the BENEFIT of all of US.

His latest quote:-
Mayor of Liverpool Joe Anderson today told his cabinet that Liverpool would remain at the forefront of the city region despite the efforts of other leaders to freeze it out.

This again proves that he is a self centred twerp and he has already caused damage HIMSELF!

He was playing a childish game being late for the meeting. He expects everybody to wait for him and when he was not voted to the chair he blames everybody else.

Good mayor or possibly the best candidate for the job has proven that he is actually not suitable for the role as all he cares about is Liverpool and not the city region.

What a clown! Another arrogant waster!!
Will someone tell Joe Anderson that the whole point of the city region is to promote the WHOLE area for the BENEFIT of all of US. His latest quote:- Mayor of Liverpool Joe Anderson today told his cabinet that Liverpool would remain at the forefront of the city region despite the efforts of other leaders to freeze it out. This again proves that he is a self centred twerp and he has already caused damage HIMSELF! He was playing a childish game being late for the meeting. He expects everybody to wait for him and when he was not voted to the chair he blames everybody else. Good mayor or possibly the best candidate for the job has proven that he is actually not suitable for the role as all he cares about is Liverpool and not the city region. What a clown! Another arrogant waster!! WirralAl
  • Score: 5

10:18am Mon 7 Apr 14

piermaster says...

WirralAl wrote:
Will someone tell Joe Anderson that the whole point of the city region is to promote the WHOLE area for the BENEFIT of all of US.

His latest quote:-
Mayor of Liverpool Joe Anderson today told his cabinet that Liverpool would remain at the forefront of the city region despite the efforts of other leaders to freeze it out.

This again proves that he is a self centred twerp and he has already caused damage HIMSELF!

He was playing a childish game being late for the meeting. He expects everybody to wait for him and when he was not voted to the chair he blames everybody else.

Good mayor or possibly the best candidate for the job has proven that he is actually not suitable for the role as all he cares about is Liverpool and not the city region.

What a clown! Another arrogant waster!!
RIGHT ON THE MONEY!! Well said WirralAl
[quote][p][bold]WirralAl[/bold] wrote: Will someone tell Joe Anderson that the whole point of the city region is to promote the WHOLE area for the BENEFIT of all of US. His latest quote:- Mayor of Liverpool Joe Anderson today told his cabinet that Liverpool would remain at the forefront of the city region despite the efforts of other leaders to freeze it out. This again proves that he is a self centred twerp and he has already caused damage HIMSELF! He was playing a childish game being late for the meeting. He expects everybody to wait for him and when he was not voted to the chair he blames everybody else. Good mayor or possibly the best candidate for the job has proven that he is actually not suitable for the role as all he cares about is Liverpool and not the city region. What a clown! Another arrogant waster!![/p][/quote]RIGHT ON THE MONEY!! Well said WirralAl piermaster
  • Score: 2

10:18am Mon 7 Apr 14

piermaster says...

WirralAl wrote:
Will someone tell Joe Anderson that the whole point of the city region is to promote the WHOLE area for the BENEFIT of all of US.

His latest quote:-
Mayor of Liverpool Joe Anderson today told his cabinet that Liverpool would remain at the forefront of the city region despite the efforts of other leaders to freeze it out.

This again proves that he is a self centred twerp and he has already caused damage HIMSELF!

He was playing a childish game being late for the meeting. He expects everybody to wait for him and when he was not voted to the chair he blames everybody else.

Good mayor or possibly the best candidate for the job has proven that he is actually not suitable for the role as all he cares about is Liverpool and not the city region.

What a clown! Another arrogant waster!!
RIGHT ON THE MONEY!! Well said WirralAl
[quote][p][bold]WirralAl[/bold] wrote: Will someone tell Joe Anderson that the whole point of the city region is to promote the WHOLE area for the BENEFIT of all of US. His latest quote:- Mayor of Liverpool Joe Anderson today told his cabinet that Liverpool would remain at the forefront of the city region despite the efforts of other leaders to freeze it out. This again proves that he is a self centred twerp and he has already caused damage HIMSELF! He was playing a childish game being late for the meeting. He expects everybody to wait for him and when he was not voted to the chair he blames everybody else. Good mayor or possibly the best candidate for the job has proven that he is actually not suitable for the role as all he cares about is Liverpool and not the city region. What a clown! Another arrogant waster!![/p][/quote]RIGHT ON THE MONEY!! Well said WirralAl piermaster
  • Score: 3

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