Wirral politicians to champion Living Wage

Wirral politicians to champion Living Wage

Wirral politicians to champion Living Wage

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LOW paid workers in Wirral could soon see a boost to their earnings after senior politicians agreed to champion the Living Wage.

Birkenhead MP Frank Field and the leader of Wirral Council, Cllr Phil Davies, have launched a strategy in the hope of boosting the earnings of low paid workers in the north west.

At a summit in Birkenhead last Friday, the duo established a regional network consisting of trade unions, local authorities and employers to work towards lifting the hourly rate of pay for as many workers as possible to a Living Wage.

Mr Field said: “There are half a million workers across the region who aren’t paid enough to live on.

“They are working for their poverty. Our plan is to ensure they are instead able to earn a wage that meets the cost of living and reduces the burden on taxpayers, who currently foot the £20bn bill to subsidise low pay.

“If an employer is able to pay their staff a living wage, we should be encouraging them to do so.”

Wirral Globe:
Birkenhead MP Frank Field and Wirral Council leader Phil Davies have joined forces to champion the Living Wage.

It has been agreed that the network will spread best practice through a number of measures, including accreditation, procurement and offering incentives for local employers.

The Living Wage is calculated according to the basic cost of living in the UK and is updated annually.

At present, employers choose to pay the Living Wage on a voluntary basis.
Wirral Council last year agreed to pay its staff a Living Wage.

Council leader Phil Davies said: “I am delighted that Wirral Council has taken a lead on championing the Living Wage.

“This is a key element of our anti-poverty strategy as well as making good business sense.

“Local councils can act as a catalyst for other organisations to embrace the Living Wage and I believe the north west network we have established will help spread good practice throughout our region.”

Senior Wirral Liberal Democrat councillor Stuart Kelly said "Cllr Davies has been saying how much he supports the Living Wage and how much he wants all Wirral Employers to pay a Living Wage – I support him in this, having been the first to suggest the council pays a Living Wage to its own staff.

"However at their meeting on Thursday Wirral's cabinet will be agreeing the fees payable to residential and care homes were the assumption made for wage rates for some of the staff working in the homes is to be minimum wage rather than the Living Wage.

"The first step in achieving the aspiration of a Living Wage Borough must surely be that the council ensures those it contracts with for services are Living Wage employers and the Council factors in a Living Wage when making its decisions.

"It seems to me we are getting a lot of talk and posturing from the Labour Leader which won't be backed up with action when chances arise."

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11:49am Tue 11 Mar 14

bloodtub says...

very kind of the council to pay a living wage out of our council tax but in the real world some employers will find it hard to pay higher wages and maybe they will think twice about taking more people on and even let some workers go think twice,as it my lead to more job losses
very kind of the council to pay a living wage out of our council tax but in the real world some employers will find it hard to pay higher wages and maybe they will think twice about taking more people on and even let some workers go think twice,as it my lead to more job losses bloodtub
  • Score: -3

12:53pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Llamedos 1 says...

Very well spotted Bloodtub. Local Charities are by the very nature of charitable law are not allowed to make a profit so generally not awash with surplus cash. I am sure that most would love to pay loyal employees more than the "living wage" but cant afford to. As for Wirral Clowncil, what a bunch of hypocrites. If a contractor built into a tender a "living wage" and for that matter the forthcomming "workbased pensions" then said contractor wouldnt get a sniff of winning the bid due to the council taking lowest bids these days......quality hardly comes into it. So Cllr Davies, under these circumstances what advice would you give to prospective council contractors? Pound to a pinch there is no reply to this question.
Very well spotted Bloodtub. Local Charities are by the very nature of charitable law are not allowed to make a profit so generally not awash with surplus cash. I am sure that most would love to pay loyal employees more than the "living wage" but cant afford to. As for Wirral Clowncil, what a bunch of hypocrites. If a contractor built into a tender a "living wage" and for that matter the forthcomming "workbased pensions" then said contractor wouldnt get a sniff of winning the bid due to the council taking lowest bids these days......quality hardly comes into it. So Cllr Davies, under these circumstances what advice would you give to prospective council contractors? Pound to a pinch there is no reply to this question. Llamedos 1
  • Score: -3

12:58pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Llamedos 1 says...

Oh and by the way....Bloodtub is also right about job losses, enforcing the working wage and workbased pensions on charities and even commercial companies will lead to more and more of these organisations going into administration which will obviously lead to job losses. Neither of these admirable schemes have been thought through by the powers that be.
Oh and by the way....Bloodtub is also right about job losses, enforcing the working wage and workbased pensions on charities and even commercial companies will lead to more and more of these organisations going into administration which will obviously lead to job losses. Neither of these admirable schemes have been thought through by the powers that be. Llamedos 1
  • Score: -6

1:33pm Tue 11 Mar 14

the99% says...

Good on Phil and frank for championing a living wage. The haters above are bitter and unable to congratulate this step towards social justice and fair pay. I did not read any talk of "forcing" charities to pay more than they can afford (they seem to pay execs and manager more than living wage) I hope that service contracts are introduced with a mandatory living wage even if it costs a little more in council taxes.
Good on Phil and frank for championing a living wage. The haters above are bitter and unable to congratulate this step towards social justice and fair pay. I did not read any talk of "forcing" charities to pay more than they can afford (they seem to pay execs and manager more than living wage) I hope that service contracts are introduced with a mandatory living wage even if it costs a little more in council taxes. the99%
  • Score: 9

2:00pm Tue 11 Mar 14

David Scott says...

If Frank and the like were serious about the poorest people, I would have thought they would have something to say about us having no control over immigration from EU countries with even higher unemployment and average wages a fraction of those in the UK.
If Frank and the like were serious about the poorest people, I would have thought they would have something to say about us having no control over immigration from EU countries with even higher unemployment and average wages a fraction of those in the UK. David Scott
  • Score: -4

2:14pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Llamedos 1 says...

Good on Phil and Frank.......you obviously have not a clue about how charities and commercial companies work or indeed the council, so do your research first before you put your foot in your mouth again and when 2015 comes and your 99% are jobless due to badly thought out legislation (yes legislation is well in place to force companies to pay work place pensions)
then you can remember your comments and squirm
Good on Phil and Frank.......you obviously have not a clue about how charities and commercial companies work or indeed the council, so do your research first before you put your foot in your mouth again and when 2015 comes and your 99% are jobless due to badly thought out legislation (yes legislation is well in place to force companies to pay work place pensions) then you can remember your comments and squirm Llamedos 1
  • Score: -1

3:16pm Tue 11 Mar 14

woodcutter 56 says...

I think its a good idea but I think maybe it would be a good idea if politicians lead by example and didn't give themselves 11percent pay rise in these days of osteraty
I think its a good idea but I think maybe it would be a good idea if politicians lead by example and didn't give themselves 11percent pay rise in these days of osteraty woodcutter 56
  • Score: 11

3:49pm Tue 11 Mar 14

bloodtub says...

the99% wrote:
Good on Phil and frank for championing a living wage. The haters above are bitter and unable to congratulate this step towards social justice and fair pay. I did not read any talk of "forcing" charities to pay more than they can afford (they seem to pay execs and manager more than living wage) I hope that service contracts are introduced with a mandatory living wage even if it costs a little more in council taxes.
the council can afford to pay the wages, but in the private sector wages are the main factor in coming to a place if our pay is to high the employers may go else were in europe and we may loose new jobs or even the jobs we have now .
the goverment already give workers tax credits, housing benefits so if your pay went up wouldnt you just loose these benefits and be now better off better to have a job than no job and what about self employed people iam not against higher pay but not ever employer can pay it you pay could sky high but no job means no pay frank dosent live in the real world he is all saying what people want to hear but very little ever happens think about it we havelost millions over well payed jobs and been replace with millions of low payed jobs better to have a low payed job than no job
[quote][p][bold]the99%[/bold] wrote: Good on Phil and frank for championing a living wage. The haters above are bitter and unable to congratulate this step towards social justice and fair pay. I did not read any talk of "forcing" charities to pay more than they can afford (they seem to pay execs and manager more than living wage) I hope that service contracts are introduced with a mandatory living wage even if it costs a little more in council taxes.[/p][/quote]the council can afford to pay the wages, but in the private sector wages are the main factor in coming to a place if our pay is to high the employers may go else were in europe and we may loose new jobs or even the jobs we have now . the goverment already give workers tax credits, housing benefits so if your pay went up wouldnt you just loose these benefits and be now better off better to have a job than no job and what about self employed people iam not against higher pay but not ever employer can pay it you pay could sky high but no job means no pay frank dosent live in the real world he is all saying what people want to hear but very little ever happens think about it we havelost millions over well payed jobs and been replace with millions of low payed jobs better to have a low payed job than no job bloodtub
  • Score: 2

3:49pm Tue 11 Mar 14

bloodtub says...

the99% wrote:
Good on Phil and frank for championing a living wage. The haters above are bitter and unable to congratulate this step towards social justice and fair pay. I did not read any talk of "forcing" charities to pay more than they can afford (they seem to pay execs and manager more than living wage) I hope that service contracts are introduced with a mandatory living wage even if it costs a little more in council taxes.
the council can afford to pay the wages, but in the private sector wages are the main factor in coming to a place if our pay is to high the employers may go else were in europe and we may loose new jobs or even the jobs we have now .
the goverment already give workers tax credits, housing benefits so if your pay went up wouldnt you just loose these benefits and be now better off better to have a job than no job and what about self employed people iam not against higher pay but not ever employer can pay it you pay could sky high but no job means no pay frank dosent live in the real world he is all saying what people want to hear but very little ever happens think about it we havelost millions over well payed jobs and been replace with millions of low payed jobs better to have a low payed job than no job
[quote][p][bold]the99%[/bold] wrote: Good on Phil and frank for championing a living wage. The haters above are bitter and unable to congratulate this step towards social justice and fair pay. I did not read any talk of "forcing" charities to pay more than they can afford (they seem to pay execs and manager more than living wage) I hope that service contracts are introduced with a mandatory living wage even if it costs a little more in council taxes.[/p][/quote]the council can afford to pay the wages, but in the private sector wages are the main factor in coming to a place if our pay is to high the employers may go else were in europe and we may loose new jobs or even the jobs we have now . the goverment already give workers tax credits, housing benefits so if your pay went up wouldnt you just loose these benefits and be now better off better to have a job than no job and what about self employed people iam not against higher pay but not ever employer can pay it you pay could sky high but no job means no pay frank dosent live in the real world he is all saying what people want to hear but very little ever happens think about it we havelost millions over well payed jobs and been replace with millions of low payed jobs better to have a low payed job than no job bloodtub
  • Score: 0

4:52pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Positive thinker says...

Another load of blurb
Another load of blurb Positive thinker
  • Score: -7

7:55pm Tue 11 Mar 14

PaulCa says...

Retirement is good, and I suggest Frank and Phil do it as soon as humanly possible.

They don't actually give two hoots about people in poverty and it's time for these two jokers to step aside and give someone with a heart a chance. Their crappy, destructive behaviour behind the scenes through long decades screams it loud and clear, but sadly most people read the headlines, vote repeatedly for their own destruction and won't venture any further.

Private Eye's brand of journalism is one of the best starting points. It kind of guides you on how to be analytical and purposeful and not to jump to the first conclusion that's presented.

And as far as this story goes, it's a smokescreen. The people involved are feathering their nest and making themselves look wonderful to prospective voters. Expect a lot more of this dross before May 2014 and May 2015.

If you vote for either clown, you're being duped very cleverly into signing own death warrant. Never forget that.
Retirement is good, and I suggest Frank and Phil do it as soon as humanly possible. They don't actually give two hoots about people in poverty and it's time for these two jokers to step aside and give someone with a heart a chance. Their crappy, destructive behaviour behind the scenes through long decades screams it loud and clear, but sadly most people read the headlines, vote repeatedly for their own destruction and won't venture any further. Private Eye's brand of journalism is one of the best starting points. It kind of guides you on how to be analytical and purposeful and not to jump to the first conclusion that's presented. And as far as this story goes, it's a smokescreen. The people involved are feathering their nest and making themselves look wonderful to prospective voters. Expect a lot more of this dross before May 2014 and May 2015. If you vote for either clown, you're being duped very cleverly into signing own death warrant. Never forget that. PaulCa
  • Score: 7

9:01pm Tue 11 Mar 14

the99% says...

How many of you commenting work in a low wage job? How many of you pay low wages to staff/employees? if your business can afford to pay its directors and senior managers 40k plus, if your shareholders get dividends and if you are living in a 5 bed house on the west side of wirral driving an audi/merc/rangie then you can afford to pay living wage. OOOO it will drive away investment, oooo it will break my business. It won't, you know it and want profit kept for yourself. Bunch of anti labour nonsense. Phil and Frank have faults (many when I last counted) but on this one they are right.
How many of you commenting work in a low wage job? How many of you pay low wages to staff/employees? if your business can afford to pay its directors and senior managers 40k plus, if your shareholders get dividends and if you are living in a 5 bed house on the west side of wirral driving an audi/merc/rangie then you can afford to pay living wage. OOOO it will drive away investment, oooo it will break my business. It won't, you know it and want profit kept for yourself. Bunch of anti labour nonsense. Phil and Frank have faults (many when I last counted) but on this one they are right. the99%
  • Score: 3

4:42pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Llamedos 1 says...

99% obviously thinks every company (including charities) is awash with surplus cash......sorry friend you aint got a clue. As i know a fair bit about business and in particular charities any surpluses (which will not be much as charitable law states that charities cannot make a profit) is ploughed back. Directors and Trustees are unpaid (by charitable law) and dividends are not paid to anyone. Most charities work on a shoe-string (except the big nationals like RSPCA, Guide Dogs for the Blind etc) but do actually employ a large number of personel. However I repeat for a third time(perhaps some people may get it into the thick skulls this time) enforcement of "living wage and workplace pensions " will put a lot of them into administration.....a
nd bang goes thousands of jobs.............com
prende! probably not.
99% obviously thinks every company (including charities) is awash with surplus cash......sorry friend you aint got a clue. As i know a fair bit about business and in particular charities any surpluses (which will not be much as charitable law states that charities cannot make a profit) is ploughed back. Directors and Trustees are unpaid (by charitable law) and dividends are not paid to anyone. Most charities work on a shoe-string (except the big nationals like RSPCA, Guide Dogs for the Blind etc) but do actually employ a large number of personel. However I repeat for a third time(perhaps some people may get it into the thick skulls this time) enforcement of "living wage and workplace pensions " will put a lot of them into administration.....a nd bang goes thousands of jobs.............com prende! probably not. Llamedos 1
  • Score: 0

7:26pm Wed 12 Mar 14

the99% says...

Sorry llamedos, I am not as ignorant as you think, I have extensive experience of providing advocacy for the low paid and negotiating wages with employers large and small. I currently work ( voluntarily) for a charitable organisation and fully appreciate the pressure they face in the form of funding cuts and rising costs. Your point falls on the basis that these proposals are to champion the living wage not introduce it mandatorily (although I personally feel they should as grant aid could easily be applied to charities to enable paying fair wages if their own position prevents this)
I recognise we will continue to differ on this but would ask that you desist from insulting me by suggesting I don't have a clue.
Sorry llamedos, I am not as ignorant as you think, I have extensive experience of providing advocacy for the low paid and negotiating wages with employers large and small. I currently work ( voluntarily) for a charitable organisation and fully appreciate the pressure they face in the form of funding cuts and rising costs. Your point falls on the basis that these proposals are to champion the living wage not introduce it mandatorily (although I personally feel they should as grant aid could easily be applied to charities to enable paying fair wages if their own position prevents this) I recognise we will continue to differ on this but would ask that you desist from insulting me by suggesting I don't have a clue. the99%
  • Score: 1

11:22pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Joeblogg85 says...

It would not take much for the Councils procurement team to legislate for a Living Wage in its procurement policies and procedures. If the Council are serious regarding this matter then what is stopping them?
It would not take much for the Councils procurement team to legislate for a Living Wage in its procurement policies and procedures. If the Council are serious regarding this matter then what is stopping them? Joeblogg85
  • Score: 2

11:08pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Llamedos 1 says...

I stated "you aint got a clue" which is totally different from calling you ignorant which I did not. I have put my arguments against the living wage Particularly for charities) quite plainly so I will leave it there, you are quite right, you are entitled to your opinion.
Joe you are perfectly correct, however the gap between "the cowboys" who are already contracted to the council and paying cash in hand and in some cases operating illegally and the genuine contractors will widen even further and as WBC are crying poverty they will use the cheapest,ie cowboys. This is the reason I am against the living wage....take it from me, it will put people out of work but some people cant see that, they only see ££££££££££
££££ fortunately all my employees understand the facts and are happy to trust my financial judgement
I stated "you aint got a clue" which is totally different from calling you ignorant which I did not. I have put my arguments against the living wage Particularly for charities) quite plainly so I will leave it there, you are quite right, you are entitled to your opinion. Joe you are perfectly correct, however the gap between "the cowboys" who are already contracted to the council and paying cash in hand and in some cases operating illegally and the genuine contractors will widen even further and as WBC are crying poverty they will use the cheapest,ie cowboys. This is the reason I am against the living wage....take it from me, it will put people out of work but some people cant see that, they only see ££££££££££ ££££ fortunately all my employees understand the facts and are happy to trust my financial judgement Llamedos 1
  • Score: -3

11:01am Sun 16 Mar 14

Hugo1008 says...

What a pair of hypocrites these two worthless examples of peoples representatives are, neither of the gives a monkeys about anyone else other than themselves and keeping their snouts in the trough of plenty.

I would have more faith in the leader of Wirral Council if he showed some credibility and selected or supported a worthy person to become the Mayor of Wirral instead of one of his close cronies who resided over the worst period for Truth, Honesty, and Responsibility in the entire history of Wirral Borough Council.

I would have more faith in a Member of Parliament supposedly Labour, if he was to stand on his back legs and denounce the appalling lack of decent Governance that has befallen Wirral for over ten years following
Disgrace, upon Scandal, with outright Deceit, Misinformation, and Maladministration that resulted in huge amounts of money being wasted and Scandal after Scandal being white washed over and over again.
What a pair of hypocrites these two worthless examples of peoples representatives are, neither of the gives a monkeys about anyone else other than themselves and keeping their snouts in the trough of plenty. I would have more faith in the leader of Wirral Council if he showed some credibility and selected or supported a worthy person to become the Mayor of Wirral instead of one of his close cronies who resided over the worst period for Truth, Honesty, and Responsibility in the entire history of Wirral Borough Council. I would have more faith in a Member of Parliament supposedly Labour, if he was to stand on his back legs and denounce the appalling lack of decent Governance that has befallen Wirral for over ten years following Disgrace, upon Scandal, with outright Deceit, Misinformation, and Maladministration that resulted in huge amounts of money being wasted and Scandal after Scandal being white washed over and over again. Hugo1008
  • Score: 2

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