Thousands sign petitions against Wirral car park charging proposal

Wirral Globe: Thousands sign petitions against Wirral car park charging proposal Thousands sign petitions against Wirral car park charging proposal

Mounting opposition to the proposed introduction of parking charges at New Brighton Fort Perch Rock and Wirral’s country parks has been triggered by a public consultation exercise.

Forced to make savings of £27.5m over the next couple of years Wirral Council carried out a comprehensive consultation exercise to test reaction across the peninsula to proposed budget measures.

Protest against the plan to charge motorists for parking in local beauty spots and recreation areas flooded into the council via letters and emails.

Petitions calling for a rethink were signed by more than 7,000 people, including representations from the Friends of Royden Park Group and objections lodged in connection with Eastham Ferry and “other country parks.”

Two months ago more than 250 people signed a protest petition in just two days over fears that the introduction of parking fees at Eastham Country Park would lead to traffic log-jams on approach roads.

Cllr Phil Gilchrist , leader of Wirral Liberal Democrats, said the move would create highway chaos.

He claimed that the ruling Labour group’s plans to make motorists pay for visiting the peninsula’s parks was “ill-conceived and poorly thought through.”

A recent report showed that revenue from council car parks was heading for a huge drop following increases in pay and display charges.

It forecast a 2013/14 shortfall on car parking income of £350,000. It blamed a series of factors including strong opposition in some areas from off-street private parking contractors and a decrease in car use as people found other forms of transport.

The report also indicated “a general borough-wide decline” in car parking ticket sales.

Wirral Council leader Cllr Phil Davies pledged that all comments would be borne in mind when the ruling group reviewed the option of charging for parking in country parks.

Cllr Harry Smith, cabinet member for transport services, said that once the measures had been introduced after the budget had been agreed, the situation would be monitored and safety first would be a priority.

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2:35pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Growl Tiger says...

Welcome to Wirral where the abnormal is still the norm despite what we have been told on the Roger Phillips programme last Friday.

Other authorities encourage recycling – our authority has imposed a £35 per annum tax on those who recycle garden waste.

Other authorities encourage residents to shop locally and support their town’s economy – our authority raises the car parking charges which then sends residents off to out of town shopping malls where parking is free.

Other authorities encourage residents to walk, cycle, horse-ride and partake of fresh air – our authority wants to tax that too by introducing car parking charges at its country parks.

On the radio we were told that in 2012 a multi-million overspend was discovered which no-one knew about. There was an admittance that there had been a lack of rigour in budgetary processes and the Council was very close to Government Commissioners being sent in. And yet, both the director of finance at the time and his deputy were allowed to leave with massive pay-outs and the usual no case to answer. Where was accountability? Where was due diligence? Who was responsible for this overspend?

It’s all very well wanting to draw a line under “mistakes”, declaring issues have been addressed and that we need to move forward. But, it’s us the council tax contributors who are paying for these “mistakes” and not those who were in posts of responsibility, but clearly not doing the job for which they were employed and well paid.

We were also told on the radio that Wirral Council has made the fastest improvement of any council in the country. There had previously been a lack of corporate drive, but the council has now challenged the budget process and challenged the constitution and tribute must be paid to the CEO who has been hugely influential in the turnaround. What turnaround? They still don’t listen and they are still arrogant and they are still spending our money on unnecessary expenditure eg executive suites and stairways to heaven.

This is meant to be The Leisure Peninsula or at least that’s what the PR states. Car parking charges in country parks is a form of taxation on leisure. If you have made a turnaround WBC show it by listening to the people – WE DO NOT WANT CAR PARKING CHARGES IN OUR COUNTRY PARKS!
Welcome to Wirral where the abnormal is still the norm despite what we have been told on the Roger Phillips programme last Friday. Other authorities encourage recycling – our authority has imposed a £35 per annum tax on those who recycle garden waste. Other authorities encourage residents to shop locally and support their town’s economy – our authority raises the car parking charges which then sends residents off to out of town shopping malls where parking is free. Other authorities encourage residents to walk, cycle, horse-ride and partake of fresh air – our authority wants to tax that too by introducing car parking charges at its country parks. On the radio we were told that in 2012 a multi-million overspend was discovered which no-one knew about. There was an admittance that there had been a lack of rigour in budgetary processes and the Council was very close to Government Commissioners being sent in. And yet, both the director of finance at the time and his deputy were allowed to leave with massive pay-outs and the usual no case to answer. Where was accountability? Where was due diligence? Who was responsible for this overspend? It’s all very well wanting to draw a line under “mistakes”, declaring issues have been addressed and that we need to move forward. But, it’s us the council tax contributors who are paying for these “mistakes” and not those who were in posts of responsibility, but clearly not doing the job for which they were employed and well paid. We were also told on the radio that Wirral Council has made the fastest improvement of any council in the country. There had previously been a lack of corporate drive, but the council has now challenged the budget process and challenged the constitution and tribute must be paid to the CEO who has been hugely influential in the turnaround. What turnaround? They still don’t listen and they are still arrogant and they are still spending our money on unnecessary expenditure eg executive suites and stairways to heaven. This is meant to be The Leisure Peninsula or at least that’s what the PR states. Car parking charges in country parks is a form of taxation on leisure. If you have made a turnaround WBC show it by listening to the people – WE DO NOT WANT CAR PARKING CHARGES IN OUR COUNTRY PARKS! Growl Tiger

3:42pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Hugo1008 says...

Wonderful Wirral Council: Reduce the labour force with a very expensive severance pay off system. Further pay off very highly paid Directors and Managers caught out from a series of Whistle Blower reports, highly paid people leaving with pockets full of Wonga, no blame , no shame, no case to answer, no accountability. Manage and Operate a complete shamble of a financial system that doles out huge amount of cash to the wrong people, whilst robbing the unfortunate resident in a care home environment. Charge residents for a system of garden wast removal that they have already paid for and did not ask for in the first place, Switch off the lights on public highway that endangers the public, Close countless facilities that benefit the Population, including those least able to fend for themselves,
Yet not one single reduction in the total number 66 Councillors each and every one living very high off the hog at our expense, never failing to cash in on very generous expenses, over and above the Councillors fixed payments plus having jolly trips to all parts of the world at our expense.

Remember all these parasites no matter what Party Political claptrap they spout, and remember 95% of the total population do not even belong to a Political Party, so why the hell vote for them, who needs them, who wants to carry on paying Councillors who do not produce the goods to benefit the local population,

And remember all this waste of resources, lavish pay offs, reduced vital services, are not decisions made by the National Government Coalition, they are decisions made by less than a dozen Local Labour Party Cabinet Members and then rubber stamped by the rest of the 50 odd Councillor Parasites, to be inflicted upon yourselves as they please.
Wonderful Wirral Council: Reduce the labour force with a very expensive severance pay off system. Further pay off very highly paid Directors and Managers caught out from a series of Whistle Blower reports, highly paid people leaving with pockets full of Wonga, no blame , no shame, no case to answer, no accountability. Manage and Operate a complete shamble of a financial system that doles out huge amount of cash to the wrong people, whilst robbing the unfortunate resident in a care home environment. Charge residents for a system of garden wast removal that they have already paid for and did not ask for in the first place, Switch off the lights on public highway that endangers the public, Close countless facilities that benefit the Population, including those least able to fend for themselves, Yet not one single reduction in the total number 66 Councillors each and every one living very high off the hog at our expense, never failing to cash in on very generous expenses, over and above the Councillors fixed payments plus having jolly trips to all parts of the world at our expense. Remember all these parasites no matter what Party Political claptrap they spout, and remember 95% of the total population do not even belong to a Political Party, so why the hell vote for them, who needs them, who wants to carry on paying Councillors who do not produce the goods to benefit the local population, And remember all this waste of resources, lavish pay offs, reduced vital services, are not decisions made by the National Government Coalition, they are decisions made by less than a dozen Local Labour Party Cabinet Members and then rubber stamped by the rest of the 50 odd Councillor Parasites, to be inflicted upon yourselves as they please. Hugo1008

4:03pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Thepleb says...

Maybe if we are asking the wirral public and tourists to pay for access to our beauty spots do you think those elected 66 could fork out for their own prawn sandwiches and port at their shindigs?
Maybe if we are asking the wirral public and tourists to pay for access to our beauty spots do you think those elected 66 could fork out for their own prawn sandwiches and port at their shindigs? Thepleb

4:32pm Mon 9 Dec 13

ballacrain says...

I was under the impression it was not allowed for a council to use car park fees to increase revenue.
Ballacrain
I was under the impression it was not allowed for a council to use car park fees to increase revenue. Ballacrain ballacrain

4:41pm Mon 9 Dec 13

rob1878 says...

The fact that the budget options for next year where being decided upon at a special meeting last week prior to the closing of the consultation says it all really.

Doesnt matter that this got a resounding NO on the consultation from residents, it will sadly happen.....

Kudos to Cllr Blakeley for trying to get the meeting adjourned until after the consultation closed, unfortunately he was shouted down...
The fact that the budget options for next year where being decided upon at a special meeting last week prior to the closing of the consultation says it all really. Doesnt matter that this got a resounding NO on the consultation from residents, it will sadly happen..... Kudos to Cllr Blakeley for trying to get the meeting adjourned until after the consultation closed, unfortunately he was shouted down... rob1878

5:38pm Mon 9 Dec 13

bigfoot says...

ballacrain wrote:
I was under the impression it was not allowed for a council to use car park fees to increase revenue.
Ballacrain
So true, correct and right and yet the antics of the Council in the past has been bordering on the illegal and yet they get away with it,so they will try it again!
[quote][p][bold]ballacrain[/bold] wrote: I was under the impression it was not allowed for a council to use car park fees to increase revenue. Ballacrain[/p][/quote]So true, correct and right and yet the antics of the Council in the past has been bordering on the illegal and yet they get away with it,so they will try it again! bigfoot

6:47pm Mon 9 Dec 13

PaulCa says...

Act I Scene 1: "All at sea". Wartorn vessel SS Wirral Council is stricken, taking in water and rapidly sinking, about to embark on its final journey to Davey Jones' Locker.

Enter stage left: Councillor Phil Davies, dressed as Nelson...
Holds telescope up to eye patch..."I see no scandals !! Everything's shipshape and in order. Now, let's draw a line, and move forward robustly into the future !!"

Creaking sound fills the air and whole ship lurches downwards.

Enter stage right CEO Graham Burgess...
"Indeed, Phil. Couldn't have put it better myself. Multimillion pound organisations make *mistakes*. It can't be helped. But it's up to the skipper and his crew to recognise and address those *mistakes*, be transparent about those *mistakes*, and make sure those *mistakes* are never permitted to happen again in the future."

Vessel sinks further... scurvy crew, including UNISON members, begin diving overboard, one by one. Sea water now washing around the knees of all on deck.

Hooded, bearded character swings across on a rope. "HA HAAAAAAAAARRRR...." whisking both men away to safety.

CEO Graham: "Ahhhh, thank you Roger. You've "stage-managed" our escape and saved the day."

Councillor Phil: "But Mr Phillips, you've rescued us from a ship that wasn't really sinking at all .................was it children?"

Audience: "Oh yes it was"

Phil: "Oh no it wasn't".....

...and on and on and on, ad infinitum, until the money finally runs out.......
Act I Scene 1: "All at sea". Wartorn vessel SS Wirral Council is stricken, taking in water and rapidly sinking, about to embark on its final journey to Davey Jones' Locker. Enter stage left: Councillor Phil Davies, dressed as Nelson... Holds telescope up to eye patch..."I see no scandals !! Everything's shipshape and in order. Now, let's draw a line, and move forward robustly into the future !!" Creaking sound fills the air and whole ship lurches downwards. Enter stage right CEO Graham Burgess... "Indeed, Phil. Couldn't have put it better myself. Multimillion pound organisations make *mistakes*. It can't be helped. But it's up to the skipper and his crew to recognise and address those *mistakes*, be transparent about those *mistakes*, and make sure those *mistakes* are never permitted to happen again in the future." Vessel sinks further... scurvy crew, including UNISON members, begin diving overboard, one by one. Sea water now washing around the knees of all on deck. Hooded, bearded character swings across on a rope. "HA HAAAAAAAAARRRR...." whisking both men away to safety. CEO Graham: "Ahhhh, thank you Roger. You've "stage-managed" our escape and saved the day." Councillor Phil: "But Mr Phillips, you've rescued us from a ship that wasn't really sinking at all .................was it children?" Audience: "Oh yes it was" Phil: "Oh no it wasn't"..... ...and on and on and on, ad infinitum, until the money finally runs out....... PaulCa

9:49pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Mr moderate says...

bigfoot wrote:
ballacrain wrote:
I was under the impression it was not allowed for a council to use car park fees to increase revenue.
Ballacrain
So true, correct and right and yet the antics of the Council in the past has been bordering on the illegal and yet they get away with it,so they will try it again!
Not actually true as long as the money spent is used on highway safety/ impeovments
[quote][p][bold]bigfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballacrain[/bold] wrote: I was under the impression it was not allowed for a council to use car park fees to increase revenue. Ballacrain[/p][/quote]So true, correct and right and yet the antics of the Council in the past has been bordering on the illegal and yet they get away with it,so they will try it again![/p][/quote]Not actually true as long as the money spent is used on highway safety/ impeovments Mr moderate

5:43am Tue 10 Dec 13

MDRyUK says...

What I tend to focus on are comments made by Councillor Harry Smith! I spy trouble ahead at the Town Hall :-)
What I tend to focus on are comments made by Councillor Harry Smith! I spy trouble ahead at the Town Hall :-) MDRyUK

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