Council leader believes northern authorities are being 'hammered' compared to those in the south

Wirral Globe: Wirral Council leader Cllr Phil Davies. Wirral Council leader Cllr Phil Davies.

WIRRAL Council’s leader believes northern councils are being ‘hammered’ compared to those in the south.

The statement comes following an analysis by the Special Interest Group of Municipal Authorities (SIGOMA) which shows councils in the Midlands and north of England are facing much deeper cuts to their funding than those in London and the south.

SIGOMA’s latest report on local government funding plans has uncovered that the average council in the north west will lose £627 per person compared to those in the south east, where councils only lose £305 per person by 2017/18.

The report warns that the disparity in funding could put some councils at ‘breaking point’ and could cause the economic recovery to bypass parts of the UK entirely.

New funding structures and the welfare reform changes means that councils suffering the largest cuts are often those facing the highest costs.

Council leader, Cllr Phil Davies, told the Globe: “This has been a long-running campaign for Wirral Council.

“I’m really appalled at the unfairness the government has applied to distributing finance.

“The SIGOMA report clearly shows that councils in the north like Wirral are being absolutely hammered whereas those in the south are being let off without hardly any cuts.

“I think it is unfair and just shows to me that the government does not care about people in northern counties otherwise why would they inflict so much damage with our budgets?”

Many fear the disparity in funding allocation will further increase the north/south divide.

Cllr Davies added: “It’s an issue that I think does urgently need addressing.

“It is not just about the totality of the funding allocated, it’s about the unfairness in terms of how it is distributed between the north and south.”

Mr Davies told the Globe he believes encouraging people to sign the ‘Stop the Growing Divide’ petition will help to show the true opposition of the way the government is making decisions.

He said: “I just cannot believe that the government now no longer funds councils according to need. It just beggars belief.

“The government refuses to listen to council leaders like me but if enough residents sign the petition and lobby their MPs, if enough people start to add their voices, then it may change something.

“It is just an absolutely horrendous position in terms of the cuts we are having to make.”

To sign the ‘Stop the Growing Divide’ petition, started by St Helens MP David Watts, visit epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/51366

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2:14pm Tue 3 Dec 13

WirralAl says...

Fair point but you lot are still useless and clueless on how to manage the council and you have wasted so much of OUR money we have no confidence in you and the other 65 clowns.
Fair point but you lot are still useless and clueless on how to manage the council and you have wasted so much of OUR money we have no confidence in you and the other 65 clowns. WirralAl

2:29pm Tue 3 Dec 13

bigfoot says...

It doesn't need Einstein to work that out, twas ever thus!
It doesn't need Einstein to work that out, twas ever thus! bigfoot

2:56pm Tue 3 Dec 13

piermaster says...

The facts speak for themselves! sign the petition.
The facts speak for themselves! sign the petition. piermaster

3:43pm Tue 3 Dec 13

johnhardaker says...

If the council collected the £30Million black hole in DASS none payments, paid out £0.5 in reports which ended up with "No case to answer" £!million plus in disgraced officer pay outs, Lost £2million in the brown bin fiasco, New fire escape in the town hall £850,000.00 Burgess office refurb £30,000.00 approx £I million in councillors "allowances" , £45,000.00 for hurt feelings paid to a council officer/staff member £62500.00 for compromise agreements, the list is endless, its not the north west divide it is gross mismanagement by the council itself, If we were better managed we would not be in this mess.
If the council collected the £30Million black hole in DASS none payments, paid out £0.5 in reports which ended up with "No case to answer" £!million plus in disgraced officer pay outs, Lost £2million in the brown bin fiasco, New fire escape in the town hall £850,000.00 Burgess office refurb £30,000.00 approx £I million in councillors "allowances" , £45,000.00 for hurt feelings paid to a council officer/staff member £62500.00 for compromise agreements, the list is endless, its not the north west divide it is gross mismanagement by the council itself, If we were better managed we would not be in this mess. johnhardaker

3:48pm Tue 3 Dec 13

JohnON says...

You can prove whatever you want with statistics, depending how you word it.

Cllr Phil Davies said: "New funding structures and the welfare reform changes means that councils suffering the largest cuts are often those facing the highest costs."

Or, to put it another way, the councils suffering the largest cuts are often those who previously enjoyed the largest subsidies.

I'm not saying it's fair but there are more than one way to see things.
You can prove whatever you want with statistics, depending how you word it. Cllr Phil Davies said: "New funding structures and the welfare reform changes means that councils suffering the largest cuts are often those facing the highest costs." Or, to put it another way, the councils suffering the largest cuts are often those who previously enjoyed the largest subsidies. I'm not saying it's fair but there are more than one way to see things. JohnON

6:47pm Tue 3 Dec 13

Joeblogg85 says...

I agree, it seems hardly fair. However, this means it's even more important to look after the funding we do get in. I agree with an earlier post in that 66 Councillors for Wirral does seem an awful lot. I don't know how much it costs but it would be with investigating and maybe going to a 4 year cycle. We do still seem to have a lot of senior officers also. If the Council is losing so much funding then it clearly has to prioritise the services it does deliver. This means delivering the most important services that if withdrawn would badly affect peoples lives. We seem to be putting lots of funding into consultations and Constituency Committees. However, this would not affect people's lives if withdrawn, would it? Let's start thinking more creatively, instead of just copying other local authorities e.g. street lighting, car parking and the aforementioned committees. I know it is a sore subject but do we also need more than 20 libraries?
I agree, it seems hardly fair. However, this means it's even more important to look after the funding we do get in. I agree with an earlier post in that 66 Councillors for Wirral does seem an awful lot. I don't know how much it costs but it would be with investigating and maybe going to a 4 year cycle. We do still seem to have a lot of senior officers also. If the Council is losing so much funding then it clearly has to prioritise the services it does deliver. This means delivering the most important services that if withdrawn would badly affect peoples lives. We seem to be putting lots of funding into consultations and Constituency Committees. However, this would not affect people's lives if withdrawn, would it? Let's start thinking more creatively, instead of just copying other local authorities e.g. street lighting, car parking and the aforementioned committees. I know it is a sore subject but do we also need more than 20 libraries? Joeblogg85

10:45pm Tue 3 Dec 13

PaulCa says...

If Davies had fought on the council tax payers' side and stopped the Chief Exec breaching his 2 year trial period - when he appeared to have encouraged the Head of HR to recommend that he be made permanent, then that's a lot more of our cash that could have been saved.

And I don't mean just his salary.

We're now stuck with him ad infinitum and he's the one making very large financial decisions with huge monetary implications on a daily basis, "scrutinised" or not.

If public oversight had been allowed to operate correctly, then we could have exercised the option of getting rid when the two years was up, but instead, he saw that coming, pulled a flanker, and was very quickly rendered untouchable and laughing all the way to the bank.

You reap what you sow Phil Davies. You won't be getting any sympathy from this quarter. Not for this latest charade of feigned victimhood.

Your abusive record indicates to me you don't know how to empathise with people suffering genuine hardship, and although I despise this coalition government (and a lot more than you, who's now rendered opportunist "torylite" - after all, you rolled over like a jelly and lay prostrate before Cameron and Clegg, rubber-stamping these swingeing cuts with your I N A C T I O N - when you could have stood up and fought it).

I for one will not be signing any politically motivated petition, aimed at securing your seat at the next local elections.

Cynical isn't the word for this. In fact there ISN'T a word in any dictionary printed for this brand of dishonest manipulation.
If Davies had fought on the council tax payers' side and stopped the Chief Exec breaching his 2 year trial period - when he appeared to have encouraged the Head of HR to recommend that he be made permanent, then that's a lot more of our cash that could have been saved. And I don't mean just his salary. We're now stuck with him ad infinitum and he's the one making very large financial decisions with huge monetary implications on a daily basis, "scrutinised" or not. If public oversight had been allowed to operate correctly, then we could have exercised the option of getting rid when the two years was up, but instead, he saw that coming, pulled a flanker, and was very quickly rendered untouchable and laughing all the way to the bank. You reap what you sow Phil Davies. You won't be getting any sympathy from this quarter. Not for this latest charade of feigned victimhood. Your abusive record indicates to me you don't know how to empathise with people suffering genuine hardship, and although I despise this coalition government (and a lot more than you, who's now rendered opportunist "torylite" - after all, you rolled over like a jelly and lay prostrate before Cameron and Clegg, rubber-stamping these swingeing cuts with your I N A C T I O N - when you could have stood up and fought it). I for one will not be signing any politically motivated petition, aimed at securing your seat at the next local elections. Cynical isn't the word for this. In fact there ISN'T a word in any dictionary printed for this brand of dishonest manipulation. PaulCa

9:45am Wed 4 Dec 13

WirralAl says...

PaulCa wrote:
If Davies had fought on the council tax payers' side and stopped the Chief Exec breaching his 2 year trial period - when he appeared to have encouraged the Head of HR to recommend that he be made permanent, then that's a lot more of our cash that could have been saved.

And I don't mean just his salary.

We're now stuck with him ad infinitum and he's the one making very large financial decisions with huge monetary implications on a daily basis, "scrutinised" or not.

If public oversight had been allowed to operate correctly, then we could have exercised the option of getting rid when the two years was up, but instead, he saw that coming, pulled a flanker, and was very quickly rendered untouchable and laughing all the way to the bank.

You reap what you sow Phil Davies. You won't be getting any sympathy from this quarter. Not for this latest charade of feigned victimhood.

Your abusive record indicates to me you don't know how to empathise with people suffering genuine hardship, and although I despise this coalition government (and a lot more than you, who's now rendered opportunist "torylite" - after all, you rolled over like a jelly and lay prostrate before Cameron and Clegg, rubber-stamping these swingeing cuts with your I N A C T I O N - when you could have stood up and fought it).

I for one will not be signing any politically motivated petition, aimed at securing your seat at the next local elections.

Cynical isn't the word for this. In fact there ISN'T a word in any dictionary printed for this brand of dishonest manipulation.
There is a word "Foulkes"
[quote][p][bold]PaulCa[/bold] wrote: If Davies had fought on the council tax payers' side and stopped the Chief Exec breaching his 2 year trial period - when he appeared to have encouraged the Head of HR to recommend that he be made permanent, then that's a lot more of our cash that could have been saved. And I don't mean just his salary. We're now stuck with him ad infinitum and he's the one making very large financial decisions with huge monetary implications on a daily basis, "scrutinised" or not. If public oversight had been allowed to operate correctly, then we could have exercised the option of getting rid when the two years was up, but instead, he saw that coming, pulled a flanker, and was very quickly rendered untouchable and laughing all the way to the bank. You reap what you sow Phil Davies. You won't be getting any sympathy from this quarter. Not for this latest charade of feigned victimhood. Your abusive record indicates to me you don't know how to empathise with people suffering genuine hardship, and although I despise this coalition government (and a lot more than you, who's now rendered opportunist "torylite" - after all, you rolled over like a jelly and lay prostrate before Cameron and Clegg, rubber-stamping these swingeing cuts with your I N A C T I O N - when you could have stood up and fought it). I for one will not be signing any politically motivated petition, aimed at securing your seat at the next local elections. Cynical isn't the word for this. In fact there ISN'T a word in any dictionary printed for this brand of dishonest manipulation.[/p][/quote]There is a word "Foulkes" WirralAl

9:59am Wed 4 Dec 13

ordinary personn says...

I agree with others about how both WBC members and officers have let us down and agree that all malpractice should be exposed. I also have, and continue to support, those who are doing what they can to bring WBC to account. However, I think it is also important not to focus solely on this and to look at other things as well.

I think that the further widening of the north-south divide will have a detrimental impact on us all but just criticising WBC members and senior officers is not actually going to do anything in addressing this. Personally, whether we are outraged at what WBC has done with public money (I am) and whether we are disgusted at the way WBC has treated people, including the most vulnerable in our society (I am), I think we need to do all we can to try and secure better funding for northern councils and then do our utmost to monitor how it is spent. Is it not possible to also look outside what is happening on Wirral or are we truly the “insular peninsula”? If we don’t do this, I think we do ourselves a mis-service – as my mum used to say “don’t go cutting your nose off to spite your face”!
I agree with others about how both WBC members and officers have let us down and agree that all malpractice should be exposed. I also have, and continue to support, those who are doing what they can to bring WBC to account. However, I think it is also important not to focus solely on this and to look at other things as well. I think that the further widening of the north-south divide will have a detrimental impact on us all but just criticising WBC members and senior officers is not actually going to do anything in addressing this. Personally, whether we are outraged at what WBC has done with public money (I am) and whether we are disgusted at the way WBC has treated people, including the most vulnerable in our society (I am), I think we need to do all we can to try and secure better funding for northern councils and then do our utmost to monitor how it is spent. Is it not possible to also look outside what is happening on Wirral or are we truly the “insular peninsula”? If we don’t do this, I think we do ourselves a mis-service – as my mum used to say “don’t go cutting your nose off to spite your face”! ordinary personn

1:11pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Llamedos 1 says...

Are we suffering larger cuts than the south because the southern councils tend to be more efficient than northern councils.....I dont know the answer.
Are we suffering larger cuts than the south because the southern councils tend to be more efficient than northern councils.....I dont know the answer. Llamedos 1

1:21pm Wed 4 Dec 13

King Tut says...

I now live in Torbay, Devon. Torbay is a unitary council like Wirral, but with roughly half the population and half the size of Wirral. We have to find cuts of over 22 million (about half that of Wirral). So its not all Northern Centric, however we have a fool of a council here as well, and to top it all a directly elected Mayor who learnt his politics from Monty Python.......
I now live in Torbay, Devon. Torbay is a unitary council like Wirral, but with roughly half the population and half the size of Wirral. We have to find cuts of over 22 million (about half that of Wirral). So its not all Northern Centric, however we have a fool of a council here as well, and to top it all a directly elected Mayor who learnt his politics from Monty Python....... King Tut

1:45pm Wed 4 Dec 13

PaulCa says...

King Tut wrote:
I now live in Torbay, Devon. Torbay is a unitary council like Wirral, but with roughly half the population and half the size of Wirral. We have to find cuts of over 22 million (about half that of Wirral). So its not all Northern Centric, however we have a fool of a council here as well, and to top it all a directly elected Mayor who learnt his politics from Monty Python.......
Yes, we know all about Torbay Council... :)
[quote][p][bold]King Tut[/bold] wrote: I now live in Torbay, Devon. Torbay is a unitary council like Wirral, but with roughly half the population and half the size of Wirral. We have to find cuts of over 22 million (about half that of Wirral). So its not all Northern Centric, however we have a fool of a council here as well, and to top it all a directly elected Mayor who learnt his politics from Monty Python.......[/p][/quote]Yes, we know all about Torbay Council... :) PaulCa

1:07am Thu 5 Dec 13

Jimrob says...

“I’m really appalled at the unfairness the government has applied to distributing finance."

And we're all "really appalled" by the way you lot at Clown Hall squander the Borough's finances.

Perhaps, putting two and two together, that is why the National Government is cutting funding to so many Labour controlled authorities in the North.
“I’m really appalled at the unfairness the government has applied to distributing finance." And we're all "really appalled" by the way you lot at Clown Hall squander the Borough's finances. Perhaps, putting two and two together, that is why the National Government is cutting funding to so many Labour controlled authorities in the North. Jimrob

12:43am Sat 7 Dec 13

antisthenes says...

Tory Cuts
Labour Mutts
Duck Brained Davies
Bemoans the Cuts
Wasted Millions
Down the Drain
Moans About Injustice
He is insane
Tory Cuts Labour Mutts Duck Brained Davies Bemoans the Cuts Wasted Millions Down the Drain Moans About Injustice He is insane antisthenes

9:16am Sat 7 Dec 13

David Scott says...

Another side of the issue is that Wirral gets about twice as much from the national pool of business rates as it puts in. Not much incentive for the council to promote business activity with a system like that.
Another side of the issue is that Wirral gets about twice as much from the national pool of business rates as it puts in. Not much incentive for the council to promote business activity with a system like that. David Scott

9:33am Mon 9 Dec 13

Hugo1008 says...

Councillor P{hill Davies and the others presently sitting on the Totally Controlled Labour Cabinet, Just ask yourselves one simple question.

Would you trust an organization so riddled with Deceit, Mal Practice, Poor Judgement, Corruption, and behind closed doors manipulation with anything so remotely important.

If your honest answer is NO not on your life, then you will be showing some real sense.
If however your answer is YES, then you demonstrating the precise reason Wirral is in this predicament you are bleating about.

Maybe you should just simply practice some real Honesty for a change.
Councillor P{hill Davies and the others presently sitting on the Totally Controlled Labour Cabinet, Just ask yourselves one simple question. Would you trust an organization so riddled with Deceit, Mal Practice, Poor Judgement, Corruption, and behind closed doors manipulation with anything so remotely important. If your honest answer is NO not on your life, then you will be showing some real sense. If however your answer is YES, then you demonstrating the precise reason Wirral is in this predicament you are bleating about. Maybe you should just simply practice some real Honesty for a change. Hugo1008

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