Revealed: Wirral's 'foulest' areas for dog mess (From Wirral Globe)

I think the council should focus more on cleaning the dog muck up.
Enforcement no matter how many officers you have is going to stop this,more education is needed and badly affected areas ie seacombe prom need to be cleaned more regularly.
Dog fouling/litter enforcement is a worthy task but at this moment front line services need to be saved and the council should get an outside company to clean the streets of the Wirral of the dog muck.

Seacombe ferry to new brighton and onto the lightouse at Lesowe, absolutely covered in dog pooh or full bags,and bins usually overflowing, not that theyre ever used to deposits mutleys pooh into.

At least tghe small fines may help reduce the current administrations defict, not by a lot but every little helps...

Those small fines 137 of them only bring in £6-7000.
The cost of the dog warden service 10 officers and manager £300,000.
They wonder why this council is going bust.

Thepleb wrote:
Those small fines 137 of them only bring in £6-7000.
The cost of the dog warden service 10 officers and manager £300,000.
They wonder why this council is going bust.

Check your info again. You are getting mixed up between the Animal Control/Kennels Service and the Fouling Enforcement Team. They are two seperate entities. The fouling team are part of the Community Patrol Service responsible for fouling, litter etc. enforcement. The Animal Control and Kennels are responsible for dealing with stray and dangerous dogs, licensing of pet shops, boarding facilities and other animal establishments, Rabies control etc.. They are now, after previous staff cuts, down to one Animal Control Officer, one Manager (Who doubles up as an ACO and also works in the Kennels when needed) one part time clerk and two full time and one part time Kennel staff. More than value for money when you consider they provide a Service 24 Hrs a day, 365 days of the year. Overworked and sort staffed. Working with and looking after animals is never a 9-5 Monday to Friday Job. They are also under threat of closure with the possibility of a private contractor being taken on. Dogs would be taken to the Merseyside Consortium Kennels outside Halewood. The euthanasia of unclaimed stray dogs would sky rocket because owners would be unwilling or unable to make the trip to even see if their dog was there never mind pay the higher fees.
If you can, cast your mind back to pre 1988 and the packs of stray dogs that used to roam all areas of the borough threatening and attacking people. This Service will be massively missed if it goes. Even in the financially challenged years after WW2 Birkenhead Corporation managed to provide a stray Kennels. The same Kennels which are now under threat. Modern officials seem to know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Its disgusting, have a look at the park in New Ferry where kids regularly play football, disgraceful

I saw a warden giving somebody a fine in New Ferry the other week and I was made up! It really is disgusting when you stand in it! Its great to hear that these wardens are giving out fines!I hope the Council keep the wardens who are catching these irresponsible dog owners.

Dave the Dog wrote:

Thepleb wrote:
Those small fines 137 of them only bring in £6-7000.
The cost of the dog warden service 10 officers and manager £300,000.
They wonder why this council is going bust.

Check your info again. You are getting mixed up between the Animal Control/Kennels Service and the Fouling Enforcement Team. They are two seperate entities. The fouling team are part of the Community Patrol Service responsible for fouling, litter etc. enforcement. The Animal Control and Kennels are responsible for dealing with stray and dangerous dogs, licensing of pet shops, boarding facilities and other animal establishments, Rabies control etc.. They are now, after previous staff cuts, down to one Animal Control Officer, one Manager (Who doubles up as an ACO and also works in the Kennels when needed) one part time clerk and two full time and one part time Kennel staff. More than value for money when you consider they provide a Service 24 Hrs a day, 365 days of the year. Overworked and sort staffed. Working with and looking after animals is never a 9-5 Monday to Friday Job. They are also under threat of closure with the possibility of a private contractor being taken on. Dogs would be taken to the Merseyside Consortium Kennels outside Halewood. The euthanasia of unclaimed stray dogs would sky rocket because owners would be unwilling or unable to make the trip to even see if their dog was there never mind pay the higher fees.
If you can, cast your mind back to pre 1988 and the packs of stray dogs that used to roam all areas of the borough threatening and attacking people. This Service will be massively missed if it goes. Even in the financially challenged years after WW2 Birkenhead Corporation managed to provide a stray Kennels. The same Kennels which are now under threat. Modern officials seem to know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

sorry dave the dog it was the fouling enforcement team I was writing about,

The dog fouling enforcement team do a great job in my local area; I live in one of the areas identified as worst offenders for dog fouling and things have certainly improved since the enforcement officers have been out on the streets. I hope you are given the chance to keep up the good work, much appreciated!!

Can I urge the dog fouling enforcement team to spend a bit more time in the areas where currently there ISN'T a particular problem? Just to send a message to those who are tempted to return to their bad habits of leaving canine ordure rotting on the pavement that this is no time to be complacent.

And can we also have a "cat fouling enforcement team"?

No mention in a cut to the dog fouling manager who if this happens will be overseeing two staff?
Another cut from the bottom rungs of the ladder while the highly paid,under worked manager keeps his position patrolling liscard bakeries every lunch time.

A fixed penalty for the dog owner,what about a cork for the dog

Thepleb wrote:
No mention in a cut to the dog fouling manager who if this happens will be overseeing two staff?
Another cut from the bottom rungs of the ladder while the highly paid,under worked manager keeps his position patrolling liscard bakeries every lunch time.

I note that Thepleb told in a previous comment that an EVR package of only £16k would is hardly of lottery win levels. Further there was concern for their family and bills. A valid concern, rightly pointed out.
I would imagine the "dog fouling manager" has their own family and bills to pay and sneakily trying to offer someone else up for the chop, (probably for personal benefit) is pretty low.
I wish Thepleb a happy and appropriate Chinese New Year.

Spotthedoggie wrote:

Thepleb wrote:
No mention in a cut to the dog fouling manager who if this happens will be overseeing two staff?
Another cut from the bottom rungs of the ladder while the highly paid,under worked manager keeps his position patrolling liscard bakeries every lunch time.

I note that Thepleb told in a previous comment that an EVR package of only £16k would is hardly of lottery win levels. Further there was concern for their family and bills. A valid concern, rightly pointed out.
I would imagine the "dog fouling manager" has their own family and bills to pay and sneakily trying to offer someone else up for the chop, (probably for personal benefit) is pretty low.
I wish Thepleb a happy and appropriate Chinese New Year.

My point relates to the fact that when cuts are considered the lowest paid and harder working like myself and colleagues are the first on the list not desk jockeys sleepers and shift dodgers
Not sure of managers personal position but who proposed these cuts in the first place I think somebody decided not to be a team player

Thepleb wrote:
Those small fines 137 of them only bring in £6-7000.
The cost of the dog warden service 10 officers and manager £300,000.
They wonder why this council is going bust.

You?.

Spotthedoggie wrote:

Thepleb wrote:
Those small fines 137 of them only bring in £6-7000.
The cost of the dog warden service 10 officers and manager £300,000.
They wonder why this council is going bust.

You?.

Fact!!
But I didn't propose it
Somebody in a shiny office did