Wirral dad urges readers to help prevent care centres from closing

Wirral Globe: Wirral dad urges readers to help prevent care centres from closing Wirral dad urges readers to help prevent care centres from closing

A WIRRAL dad whose son suffers from profound mental and physical disabilities is urging readers to "do their research" before completing a council questionnaire.

Brian Donaldson, who tried to save five of the borough’s care homes from closure in 2011, is now hoping local people will vote against further shut downs.

His son, Paul, 29, requires round-the-clock care from his parents and attends Eastham Day Centre five days a week.

However, Wirral Council’s forthcoming cuts could mean the closure of some local day centres while two of the authority’s three residential care homes could also fall under the axe.

The cuts are part of a massive overhaul of the council’s services to make £39m worth of savings over the next 12 months.

And Wirral residents are now asked to take part in the second stage of the ‘What Really Matters?’ consultation to highlight their priorities.

But Mr Donaldson, who is chairman of the Wirral Carers’ Association, is calling on the public to make sure they know the importance of the day centres before they take part in the consultation.

He said: “The proposed options are really savage cuts which will affect the vulnerable and their carers so we are trying to make sure that people fully understand what’s happening before they fill in the questionnaire.

“The questions are not worded in the best way and I have a horrible feeling people will care more about their wheelie bins and rubbish disposal!

“We really hope people to a little bit of research and find out how valuable these centres are for people like Paul so they can make an informed decision.”

Among the council’s proposals for vulnerable people are options to increase the cost of home care and supported living while there is a possibility that transport to council facilities and schools could be reduced or stopped completely.

There are also proposed financial changes for carers who would receive an annual grant based on their role and requirement for support.

Mr Donaldson added: “All of this at a time when there are huge cuts in welfare benefits from central Government coming next year, that again targets the most vulnerable.

“We are outraged that our council have recommended these cuts against our express wishes and against their own commitment.

“People do not need to complete the whole survey just the bits that “really matter” to them and will only take a few minutes of their time.

“These short term cuts will have a devastating impact on the vulnerable and their families and lead to greater longer term costs in hospitalisation and people being put into residential care.

“We know our council have some tough choices to make and they are not evil but please make sure that they don’t make appallingly bad choices.”

To take part in the questionnaire, visit www.wirral.gov.uk

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1:59pm Wed 21 Nov 12

bigfoot says...

Carers are already saving this Country a fortune. The Carers fund was not 'ring fenced' so the authorities could play 'fast and loose' with the funds with very little for carers.
Will the Council listen? I doubt it, their tiny little minds are already made up. If they realised that the number of carers in Wirral,known and unknown,also voted it would cause them to reconsider.
Best wishes with the campaign,I urge everyone to support it!
Carers are already saving this Country a fortune. The Carers fund was not 'ring fenced' so the authorities could play 'fast and loose' with the funds with very little for carers. Will the Council listen? I doubt it, their tiny little minds are already made up. If they realised that the number of carers in Wirral,known and unknown,also voted it would cause them to reconsider. Best wishes with the campaign,I urge everyone to support it! bigfoot

3:09pm Wed 21 Nov 12

MDRyUK says...

Yes, there are lots of unanswered questions about the management of resources locally.
Carers are entitled to a level of support and vulnerable people with physical and mental disabilities do need looking after. To some extent there is a statutory responsibility which cannot be avoided by Wirral Council - they have a duty of care. And so does national government.
An issue I'd like answered is why we are all being encouraged to answer the What Really Matters? council devised questionnaire? Yes I think people should communicate with the council but I'm very suspicious of being reminded about filling in a questionnaire that quite frankly will not really make very much difference at the end of the day.
My suggestion, for what it's worth, is those of us who can should be writing to our own local councillors sharing our real concerns about the state of present and future council services.
In terms of priorities I'm afraid at this late stage in planning formulation for services post April 2013, I'd be really surprised (and possibly more worried than ever) if some key decisions had not already been made.
Far too many competing demands ahead to believe the outcome of the What Really Matters? questionnaire will make much practical difference.
Don't forget we, the public, haven't been told all the problems anyway. Spin is spun / politics is politics.
If the council want feedback, lets give them real feedback - do not rely on the outcome of a council devised questionnaire to come up with all the best answers.
Best wishes to Brian Donaldson - don't give up hope and trust your campaign does make a difference at the end of the day.
Yes, there are lots of unanswered questions about the management of resources locally. Carers are entitled to a level of support and vulnerable people with physical and mental disabilities do need looking after. To some extent there is a statutory responsibility which cannot be avoided by Wirral Council - they have a duty of care. And so does national government. An issue I'd like answered is why we are all being encouraged to answer the What Really Matters? council devised questionnaire? Yes I think people should communicate with the council but I'm very suspicious of being reminded about filling in a questionnaire that quite frankly will not really make very much difference at the end of the day. My suggestion, for what it's worth, is those of us who can should be writing to our own local councillors sharing our real concerns about the state of present and future council services. In terms of priorities I'm afraid at this late stage in planning formulation for services post April 2013, I'd be really surprised (and possibly more worried than ever) if some key decisions had not already been made. Far too many competing demands ahead to believe the outcome of the What Really Matters? questionnaire will make much practical difference. Don't forget we, the public, haven't been told all the problems anyway. Spin is spun / politics is politics. If the council want feedback, lets give them real feedback - do not rely on the outcome of a council devised questionnaire to come up with all the best answers. Best wishes to Brian Donaldson - don't give up hope and trust your campaign does make a difference at the end of the day. MDRyUK

4:12pm Wed 21 Nov 12

donalb says...

Our Council have described a series of options for making savings.
Only three quarters of these savings need to be made, we decide the quarter that should be stopped.
It is up to us to decide what services need to be protected and the Council are duty bound to listen and act accordingly.
The recent consultation concluded that Wirral Residents regard the protection of vulnerable children, adults and their families as our Council’s highest priority.
As carers of vulnerable children and adults we desperately need your help to make sure that those rightly regarded as the highest priority, are protected as much as possible from these cuts to service.
Unless you clearly state that “I find this completely unacceptable” it may be that a vulnerable person or their carer could be faced with the following:
·A 33% increase in charges for home care, supported living, day care and transport (Question 48: Charging for Non-residential Services)
·Closure of their Respite Centre which gives carers a break from their caring role (Q51: Residential & Respite Care) & (Q:72 Short Breaks for Children with Disabilities)
·Closure of their Day Centre (Q52: Day Care & Day Services Transformation)
·The cessation of personal budgets for Carers (Q53: Review of Support for Carers)
·Removal of their Transport to a Day Centre (Q54: Transport Policies)
·A 64% reduction in the support given by Area Teams to prevent the situation of families of vulnerable people from getting worse (Q55: Area Teams for Family Support)
·Major reduction in the number of people who assess people’s care and support needs leading to severe delays in providing vital support (Q64: Assessment & Care Management)
·A 33% reduction in service to children & adolescents who require mental health support, plus children in need, children in care, children with a plan for adoption or with a disability (Q73: Child& Adolescent Mental Health Service)

We hope you:
•Will agree that that it’s not fair to inflict this amount of suffering on the most vulnerable.
•Won’t assume that someone else will stop this from happening.
•Will believe me when I tell you that you can stop these changes - saying “No” to the above will only amount to 5% of the total savings required.
Brian Donaldson
Chair, Wirral Carers Association
Our Council have described a series of options for making savings. Only three quarters of these savings need to be made, we decide the quarter that should be stopped. It is up to us to decide what services need to be protected and the Council are duty bound to listen and act accordingly. The recent consultation concluded that Wirral Residents regard the protection of vulnerable children, adults and their families as our Council’s highest priority. As carers of vulnerable children and adults we desperately need your help to make sure that those rightly regarded as the highest priority, are protected as much as possible from these cuts to service. Unless you clearly state that “I find this completely unacceptable” it may be that a vulnerable person or their carer could be faced with the following: ·A 33% increase in charges for home care, supported living, day care and transport (Question 48: Charging for Non-residential Services) ·Closure of their Respite Centre which gives carers a break from their caring role (Q51: Residential & Respite Care) & (Q:72 Short Breaks for Children with Disabilities) ·Closure of their Day Centre (Q52: Day Care & Day Services Transformation) ·The cessation of personal budgets for Carers (Q53: Review of Support for Carers) ·Removal of their Transport to a Day Centre (Q54: Transport Policies) ·A 64% reduction in the support given by Area Teams to prevent the situation of families of vulnerable people from getting worse (Q55: Area Teams for Family Support) ·Major reduction in the number of people who assess people’s care and support needs leading to severe delays in providing vital support (Q64: Assessment & Care Management) ·A 33% reduction in service to children & adolescents who require mental health support, plus children in need, children in care, children with a plan for adoption or with a disability (Q73: Child& Adolescent Mental Health Service) We hope you: •Will agree that that it’s not fair to inflict this amount of suffering on the most vulnerable. •Won’t assume that someone else will stop this from happening. •Will believe me when I tell you that you can stop these changes - saying “No” to the above will only amount to 5% of the total savings required. Brian Donaldson Chair, Wirral Carers Association donalb

5:11pm Wed 21 Nov 12

MX says...

No doubt the Carers Champion will come to your rescue.
No doubt the Carers Champion will come to your rescue. MX

5:41pm Wed 21 Nov 12

donalb says...

MX wrote:
No doubt the Carers Champion will come to your rescue.
The new Carers Champion has been very supportive, has attended nearly all our meetings, been personally involved with other carer initiatives and has promised to raise the concerns that we have on every possible occasion so that when decisions are made, the full implications are understood.
We couldn't have asked for a better Carers Champion.
[quote][p][bold]MX[/bold] wrote: No doubt the Carers Champion will come to your rescue.[/p][/quote]The new Carers Champion has been very supportive, has attended nearly all our meetings, been personally involved with other carer initiatives and has promised to raise the concerns that we have on every possible occasion so that when decisions are made, the full implications are understood. We couldn't have asked for a better Carers Champion. donalb

6:08pm Wed 21 Nov 12

MX says...

I'm very pleased for you.That's very positive news.
I'm very pleased for you.That's very positive news. MX

8:13pm Wed 21 Nov 12

boredofthis says...

donalb wrote:
MX wrote:
No doubt the Carers Champion will come to your rescue.
The new Carers Champion has been very supportive, has attended nearly all our meetings, been personally involved with other carer initiatives and has promised to raise the concerns that we have on every possible occasion so that when decisions are made, the full implications are understood.
We couldn't have asked for a better Carers Champion.
A well reasoned, balanced post from an obviously passionate but also intelligent person.

We don't like your sort round here. Sling your hook.
[quote][p][bold]donalb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MX[/bold] wrote: No doubt the Carers Champion will come to your rescue.[/p][/quote]The new Carers Champion has been very supportive, has attended nearly all our meetings, been personally involved with other carer initiatives and has promised to raise the concerns that we have on every possible occasion so that when decisions are made, the full implications are understood. We couldn't have asked for a better Carers Champion.[/p][/quote]A well reasoned, balanced post from an obviously passionate but also intelligent person. We don't like your sort round here. Sling your hook. boredofthis

10:11pm Wed 21 Nov 12

donalb says...

boredofthis wrote:
donalb wrote:
MX wrote:
No doubt the Carers Champion will come to your rescue.
The new Carers Champion has been very supportive, has attended nearly all our meetings, been personally involved with other carer initiatives and has promised to raise the concerns that we have on every possible occasion so that when decisions are made, the full implications are understood.
We couldn't have asked for a better Carers Champion.
A well reasoned, balanced post from an obviously passionate but also intelligent person.

We don't like your sort round here. Sling your hook.
Brilliantly funny! A much needed injection of humour which I really enjoyed. Cheers "boredofthis".
[quote][p][bold]boredofthis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]donalb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MX[/bold] wrote: No doubt the Carers Champion will come to your rescue.[/p][/quote]The new Carers Champion has been very supportive, has attended nearly all our meetings, been personally involved with other carer initiatives and has promised to raise the concerns that we have on every possible occasion so that when decisions are made, the full implications are understood. We couldn't have asked for a better Carers Champion.[/p][/quote]A well reasoned, balanced post from an obviously passionate but also intelligent person. We don't like your sort round here. Sling your hook.[/p][/quote]Brilliantly funny! A much needed injection of humour which I really enjoyed. Cheers "boredofthis". donalb

9:31am Thu 22 Nov 12

woodyres2 says...

Well done Brian & the Globe for bringing these issues to the attention of the public. A lot of people not affected by these issues really do not know what is going on.

Respite Care for Carers is vital, and there are fewer places available following the closures of some centres & homes.

The Council are meeting next week to discuss funding for care in nursing homes, a "consultation" which has also been going on for a long time now.

Despite the private care home owners proving the true cost of care by updating the Lang Buisson Report, the Council are not going to increase fees for the most needy, vulnerable people who need the most care i.e. EMI Nursing, and that is on top of a 9.5% cut 2 years ago & 2.5% the year before that. Indeed the original proposal was to cut the fee by £10 a week !!

More homes will close, staff will be under pressure to do more, despite most being on minimum wage anyway & families will also suffer as they will not be able to afford to put there loved one into appropriate homes that can meet their needs due to costs.

On the other hand the Council still expect private nursing homes to undertake training & attend meetings. Bombard them with emails demanding compliance with all sorts of inane issues.

I truly believe that Wirral does not have the best interests of it's vulnerable residents ( and their carers) as a priority, they are focussed on the finances.

It's WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Well done Brian & the Globe for bringing these issues to the attention of the public. A lot of people not affected by these issues really do not know what is going on. Respite Care for Carers is vital, and there are fewer places available following the closures of some centres & homes. The Council are meeting next week to discuss funding for care in nursing homes, a "consultation" which has also been going on for a long time now. Despite the private care home owners proving the true cost of care by updating the Lang Buisson Report, the Council are not going to increase fees for the most needy, vulnerable people who need the most care i.e. EMI Nursing, and that is on top of a 9.5% cut 2 years ago & 2.5% the year before that. Indeed the original proposal was to cut the fee by £10 a week !! More homes will close, staff will be under pressure to do more, despite most being on minimum wage anyway & families will also suffer as they will not be able to afford to put there loved one into appropriate homes that can meet their needs due to costs. On the other hand the Council still expect private nursing homes to undertake training & attend meetings. Bombard them with emails demanding compliance with all sorts of inane issues. I truly believe that Wirral does not have the best interests of it's vulnerable residents ( and their carers) as a priority, they are focussed on the finances. It's WRONG WRONG WRONG. woodyres2

3:27pm Thu 22 Nov 12

tigerclaw says...

Wirral is the most uncaring, selfish council in the land. Expect nothing but misery living here. Worse place in the UK. A haven for drugs, crime and disease and corruption. I would advise anyone interested in investing here to keep well away.
Wirral is the most uncaring, selfish council in the land. Expect nothing but misery living here. Worse place in the UK. A haven for drugs, crime and disease and corruption. I would advise anyone interested in investing here to keep well away. tigerclaw

9:56pm Thu 22 Nov 12

boredofthis says...

tigerclaw wrote:
Wirral is the most uncaring, selfish council in the land. Expect nothing but misery living here. Worse place in the UK. A haven for drugs, crime and disease and corruption. I would advise anyone interested in investing here to keep well away.
Ha ha ha.

That should be the motto for this website. Absolutely priceless.

That's actually cheered me up no end, as its confirmed all my suspicions: you are idiots. Absolute idiots who should seriously consider getting some help.

You especially, after reading your rants from today. You tool.
[quote][p][bold]tigerclaw[/bold] wrote: Wirral is the most uncaring, selfish council in the land. Expect nothing but misery living here. Worse place in the UK. A haven for drugs, crime and disease and corruption. I would advise anyone interested in investing here to keep well away.[/p][/quote]Ha ha ha. That should be the motto for this website. Absolutely priceless. That's actually cheered me up no end, as its confirmed all my suspicions: you are idiots. Absolute idiots who should seriously consider getting some help. You especially, after reading your rants from today. You tool. boredofthis

10:31am Sun 25 Nov 12

tigerclaw says...

boredofthis wrote:
tigerclaw wrote:
Wirral is the most uncaring, selfish council in the land. Expect nothing but misery living here. Worse place in the UK. A haven for drugs, crime and disease and corruption. I would advise anyone interested in investing here to keep well away.
Ha ha ha.

That should be the motto for this website. Absolutely priceless.

That's actually cheered me up no end, as its confirmed all my suspicions: you are idiots. Absolute idiots who should seriously consider getting some help.

You especially, after reading your rants from today. You tool.
You're obviously one of the worthless 66 who supposedly work for the people of Wirral? Sitting on your fat arse picling your nose and working out your thieved expenses?

Otherwise you would not get so upset would you?

As for a tool ....look in the mirror, there's the biggest tool of all.

Right aren't I?
[quote][p][bold]boredofthis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tigerclaw[/bold] wrote: Wirral is the most uncaring, selfish council in the land. Expect nothing but misery living here. Worse place in the UK. A haven for drugs, crime and disease and corruption. I would advise anyone interested in investing here to keep well away.[/p][/quote]Ha ha ha. That should be the motto for this website. Absolutely priceless. That's actually cheered me up no end, as its confirmed all my suspicions: you are idiots. Absolute idiots who should seriously consider getting some help. You especially, after reading your rants from today. You tool.[/p][/quote]You're obviously one of the worthless 66 who supposedly work for the people of Wirral? Sitting on your fat arse picling your nose and working out your thieved expenses? Otherwise you would not get so upset would you? As for a tool ....look in the mirror, there's the biggest tool of all. Right aren't I? tigerclaw

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